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 No.557

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator
http://www.16personalities.com/
INFP / INTP
I think that it lacks implementation, is basically an abstraction of what you think of yourself, and draws the lines incorrectly since most people are in the middle.
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 No.573

Took the test got INFP although INTP also fits me. Looking at the results Feeling vs Thinking were nearly a tie.

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 No.574

>>573
As long as it starts with IN you are fine. Feeling/Thinking part is when it gets wrong, because they are not even polar to each other.

The worst combination (even through this test is soykafty as i mention above) is ENFJ and ESFJ, god help them, don't believe the kind words said about them in test, those people are living nightmare, found out it by myself when giving this test out to friends, beware of fuarrrking ENFJ and ESFJ.

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 No.575

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INFJ. Not sure what to think on these things honestly. They get half of it right, but the other half I'm skeptical of. Same goes for the description of my zodiac sign (Virgo or goat/sheep/ram), although horoscopes I believe to be bs.

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 No.576

>>575
horoscopes are written to contain characteristics that fit everyone, with language to make it seem like it's for you especially.
People who try to debunk horoscopes get it wrong because they look at what could make their horoscope incorrect. They'll definitely find something, but it's only because they're trying to debunk in the first place. If you really want to see how the zodiac works, check how many other signs you can fit yourself into.

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 No.578

>>575
>>576
MBTI's are quite different then horoscopes. They aren't based around arbitrary stars- they're based on how you rate your own traits.
However unlike Jung prophesied, they fail to archetype people into categories.
The best modern purpose they can serve is stating defined character aspects and sometimes helping you to further understand a little bit of your thought process.

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 No.579

You aren't going to get a lot out of MBTI unless you study the functions and put some time into correctly typing yourself. After that you can find tons of objective articles on how you handle stress, how you learn, and tons of other helpful stuff for self development.

Online tests are a good place to start but there's a lot of mistyping because of soykafty questions.

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 No.590

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I got INTJ. I take this test once every 6 - 12 months. Normally, I get INTJ, but sometimes I do get INTP.

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 No.595

I got ISTJ, not so bad

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 No.600

I have done several of these tests, and I always get INTJ. The description fits me very well, and I tend to have a strong preference for movies with INTJ characters, like Hannibal in The Silence of the Lambs or Anton Chigurh on No Country for Old Men. Also, I tend to really like people who are either ENFP or ENTP, which are the best romantic matches for my type.

Overall I think MBTI is a pretty handy model. I have typed almost every person I'm close to over the years (although I find it tricky to decide between S and N), and it's amazing how much more predictable their behavior becomes once you figure their type out.

People always compare MBTI to horoscope, but I really don't believe it's such a superficial model.

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 No.601

I would expect most of us here to be either INTJ or INTP, so that works out. Not that this is very useful… Best tool for knowing yourself is mindfulness about your own actions and contemplative nature.

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 No.603

Why doesn't http://www.16personalities.com/ load over Tor? That's some suspicious soykaf.

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 No.607

>>601
INTP fits just perfectly. Well, my horoscope fits pretty good too.

On an imageboard about dreams it would be rather unusual to find overly extroverted and social subjects.

Oh, I have yet to analyze my dream diary.

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 No.617

INTJ. Not sure what to think about it.

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 No.618

>before teen ENTP
>after teen INTP
kinda makes sense…

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 No.1185

>mfw i changed from INTJ to INTP-A
Somehow staying inside and not being sociable this summer has lowered my introvertness

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 No.1186

i think this system is BS

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 No.1187

>>1186
Agreed. Read up on the Barnum effect. The MBTI is a horoscope for people who consider themselves above reading horoscopes -- perhaps even dumber than horoscopes, since you can't choose the month you were born in, but you CAN manipulate the MBTI to get the answer you want. I know many people who consider themselves introverts, but are in reality quite extroverted and love to overshare about themselves & be the centre of attention. They just don't get the chance to do so very often, so they pretend that it's due to their mysterious lone-wolf soul and not their social ineptitude.

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 No.1188

>>1187
>The MBTI is a horoscope
No, it's not. Go read Jung dude, it is psychology.
If you think it's not a science and is imprecise then I agree with you, because psyche can't really be described by reproducible tests as science require (at least with our current methods). Anyway, it's based on empiricism with many reviews of psychology, psychiatry, even neurology academia and is really useful in many areas.

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 No.1189

>>1188
The MBTI is not well regarded by actual psychologists. The National Academy of Sciences has ruled that "At this time there is not sufficient, well-designed research to justify the use of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) in career counseling programs." (p15). http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1580

Further detail:
"Myers and McCaulley (1985) report test-retest reliabilities from 11 different samples. In these samples, between 24 and 61 percent of the respondents showed stability of type, with a median of 40 percent... McCarley and Carskadon (1983) report only 47 percent of their respondents retained their initial types over a period of 5 weeks... Self-assessment instruments like those represented by the MBTI are likely, at best, to capture a person 's current state and, therefore, should not be considered typologies." (p96-97)

"Myers and McCaulley (1985) present correlational data from 20 studies showing relationships between MBTI scales and a wide variety of other instruments. They concluded that the I-E scale has good construct validity: it has high correlations with comparable scales of other instruments and low correlations with instruments designed to represent other constructs. In contrast, the S-N and T-F scales show relatively weak validity, with only moderate correlations with other instruments designed to measure similar constructs." (p98)

"[Thayer] notes three methodological criticisms of the research: the reporting of data is inconsistent and incomplete; statistical analyses are often incompletely described and may violate convention (e.g., no overall test of significance is calculated before detailed comparisons are made and no attention is given to appropriate baseline data in the analyses); and subjects or judges are often made aware of the hypotheses being tested. These problems prevent drawing conclusions from the studies, many of which are published in the Journals of the Center for the Applications of Psychological Type, Inc. (Journal of Psychological Type and Research in Psychological Type)*; we also note that, to date, few studies appear in mainstream research journals." (p88)
*This is the company that distributes the MBTI and sells training programs for it.

And, to further the comparison to horoscopes:
"What accounts for the popularity of an instrument that is not yet supported by research? Several reasons can be suggested. From the respondents' perspective, the MBTI provides generally positive feedback: the descriptors do not have clinical implications, they are presented as unique positive attributes, and they are sufficiently vague to apply to a large number of people in a wide variety of situations." (p100)

If you need a cute test to massage your ego, go take some "Which Kardashian Are You?" quizzes on Buzzfeed instead of pretending that you're doing Very Rational And Scientific Psychology. And Jung is cool, but what he does is not really science.

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 No.1190

>>1188
Just realized I got too carried away with the validity of the MBTI and didn't address the rest of your post. Yes, current scientific methods aren't great for studying psychology, but that doesn't mean we should gobble up any unsupported pseudo-psychology we can find. "it's based on empiricism with many reviews of psychology, psychiatry, even neurology academia and is really useful in areas"... this is not true. Better personality inventories exist, as well. The Big 5 system is far more reputable, but people don't like it as much as MBTI because it doesn't give you a fun label that you can compare to your favourite celebrities.

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 No.1191

>>1190
the big 5 is also harder to find a reputable online test for

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 No.1194

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>ESFP
C...Check it guys.

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 No.1195

>>557
I generally score as INTP.

I believe it is a subset or specific application of trait theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trait_theory
From my experience, it seems most long, detailed posts about one's opinion of MBTI come from people who self-report as INT types. Other than that, haven't tried using it for much.

It's not particularly rigorous, but I don't think most people who show interest in the test actually treat is as such, or I would see people actually bring up their MBTI type in contexts other than MBTI threads as something useful in making decisions.

I think it'd be neat to have video games where systems like this are used to make procedurally generated personalities for NPCs.

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 No.1196

I am INTP. I'm not a hipster tho

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 No.1198

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>entj

watch where you step, knaves, you are in the presence of a true man.

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 No.1199

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>>1196
I also scored INTP. Not sure why you think of hipsters. Hipster appear more extroverted to me. I'm a physicist.

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 No.1200

>>1199
Hipsters generally score/identify as introverts, but the main reason for that being the fact that tests regarding it generally suck. The 50/50 or any split that has two sides isn't wide enough for the reality.

Most people are between being an introvert and an extrovert - people who get alive around their friends, but are generally shy, people who sometimes self-reflect and automatically assume that pretty much nobody else does it because they don't understand people and so on. I scored ENTP, I think, but I would definitely not identify as an extrovert.

I don't actually think that this test is particularly awful, but it is nowhere near as close as advertised. The generally positive blanket statements aren't completely random, but similarly to horoscopes, they don't ultimately mean much.

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 No.1201

A disciple of another sect once came to Drescher as he was eating his morning meal.

“I would like to give you this personality test”, said the outsider, “because I want you to be happy.”

Drescher took the paper that was offered him and put it into the toaster, saying: “I wish the toaster to be happy, too.”

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 No.1202

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 No.1203

>based on an arbitrary set of paradigms, who do you perceive yourself to be?
depending on the test and depending when it is taken, i have received anything between inXp and intj.

if there is anything to be gleaned from this system, it lies in understanding the cognitive functions.

that said, due to its self-fulfilling nature, its little more applicable than star signs:
your test results are entirely reflective of your self-image.

to state the obvious, a professional is going to have much more applicable and perhaps actionable information than the results from some self-administered online test that you half-understand.

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 No.1204

ENTP, the debater

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 No.1206

>>1203
INXX! just like me

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 No.1208

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>>1198
>MFW there are other ENTJs on Lainchan

There usually aren't too many of us on imageboards, or so it seems.

So tell me, have you led any groups like they say we are naturally able to? I have, and it is quite fun and enjoyable to me. I do not abuse it, though, but rather try to lead them well; my success shall be proven by theirs.

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 No.1229

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>>557
it managed to identify me as the engineer guy i am but what it says in the ISTP article other than that is BS

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 No.1230

>>1189
>The MBTI is not well regarded by actual psychologists. The National Academy of Sciences has ruled that "At this time there is not sufficient, well-designed research to justify the use of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) in career counseling programs." (p15). http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1580
this is a nice post and despite the fact i just took the test i agree with this

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 No.1234

I am an INTP-T

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 No.1235

INFJ. This wiki page clarifies the origin of the letters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_cognitive_functions

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 No.1236

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>>1208
I guess I never really got too deep in any organizational leadership roles (besides maybe Boy Scouts in middle school), but I usually lead study/project groups and other things. I'm naturally quiet, though, so mostly it's just unspoken guidance.

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 No.1237

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>>1236
Also, pic relevant.

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 No.1238

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ENTP, though I seem to be sitting on the edge of extrovert and introvert.

These tests are decent at getting an idea of your personality along with others you know. However, you shouldn't only go by them as you simply cannot break people down into a few distinct groups.

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 No.1242

>>1238
there's a classification for people who don't fit neatly into either category, called an Ambivert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion#Ambiversion

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 No.1243

>>1234
This made me happy.

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 No.1244

Horoscopes for nerds. Intj here chummers.

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 No.1359

The mind observing itself creates an inescapable thought loop. Trying to shoehorn the workings of the mind into the scientific method, or vice versa, is asking for trouble.

The answers lie within you, around you and in front of you, but only behind you have they been put to paper.

Contrary to popular belief, recent scientific breakthroughs give support to age-old occult knowledge

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 No.1360

>>1359
INT(P/J) btw

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 No.1361

1237
Thanks for contributing, I just finished watching this

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 No.1696

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Got ISFJ-T this time. I have multiple personality disorder though, and typically all of them are near the center, one time I got 1% on all of them

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 No.1697

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>>1696
And the one from CelebrityTypes:

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 No.1701

>>1697
interesting. if you don't mind my asking, how do your personalities differ?

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 No.1702

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 No.1703

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I took this test sometime ago during an 8chan thread and got ISTJ - the logistician. This time around I got INTJ - the architect. I don't really put a lot of faith in these sorts of tests since they always seem to fluctuate based on my mood. They're more like horoscopes to me, albeit backed by pseudoscience instead of mysticism.

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 No.1704

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Is this another test that tells me how much of a special snowflake I am?

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 No.1705

lol. i get INTJ when i took it. which i guess kind of suites my quiet & love for isolationism.

but please watch this video because this test is even more soykaf than the political compass test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5pggDCnt5M

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 No.1707

God, the MBTI is such bull

I've taken it four times and never got the same result twice.

And why is this in /zzz/

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 No.1717

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cool

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 No.1718

>>1707
its psychology related and I didn't want to put it in /r
in retrospect I should have made it more dream related

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 No.1719

INTJ, again. I seem to shift between INTP and INTJ when I take these tests. I guess we am in good company here. Me and all you introverts.

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 No.1720

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INTP! 3 percent of the population (80% on Lainchan tho)!

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 No.1754

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probably far more turbulent than im putting down. also it was somewhat conscious efforts that shifted me more from feeling to thinking as of the past couple of years.



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