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Thinkpad / Laptop buying thread Anonymous 2015-04-15 01:48:51 No.5900 [Last 50 Posts]

Hey /tech/,

I fuarrrked up (in my opinion) and bought a Macbook Pro. Rather than spend a lot of time setting it up with GNU/Linux I think I may just jump ship, sell the MBP and buy a Thinkpad instead.

The last Thinkpad I owned was a t42, which was a great machine but suffered from a few issues, although the compatibility was excellent.

Does anyone have ownership experience with newer Thinkpads, are there any you can recommend?

Good RAM and a nice screen resolution are preferred.

Feel free to suggest laptops that aren't Thinkpads too, although good compatibility with GNU/Linux is a must.

Anonymous 2015-04-15 05:22:21 No.5902

>>5900
Use the mbp as a normie machine

buy a $60-$100 t60 anyway

Anonymous 2015-04-15 06:43:55 No.5904

>>5902
the t61 is the same price on amazon and better specs….

Anonymous 2015-04-15 06:45:26 No.5905

>>5904
i might have just gotten the last one

Anonymous 2015-04-15 08:38:40 No.5906

>>5900
No, you did fuarrrk up. Good thing you are smart, and realised it.

Anonymous 2015-04-15 08:39:16 No.5907

>>5906
fuc-ked up*

Anonymous 2015-04-15 12:02:57 No.5913

>>5902
This. The hardware is good/great so just ditch the OS?

Anonymous 2015-04-15 18:28:16 No.5926

>>5913
I need to try Ubuntu on it and see if it just works to be honest.

I booted into an Arch live environment and neither backlight nor wifi worked, and I can't find a solid guide on what needs setting for those to function.

If Ubuntu's fine I'll probably use that for a bit until I can gather the knowledge needed to get Arch going.

Still interested in a new Thinkpad too though.

Anonymous 2015-04-15 22:04:05 No.5927

>>5926
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T61

Anonymous 2015-04-15 22:05:12 No.5928

>>5927
>>5926
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60

Anonymous 2015-04-15 23:40:56 No.5930

>>5927
>>5928
Ah sorry if I wasn't very clear, I meant I tried Arch on the MBP.

I really doubt it supports free software properly, despite what the 'genius' said…

Anonymous 2015-04-16 06:20:17 No.5937

If you want a newer ThinkPad, look at the T430, X220 or X230. Great laptops

Anonymous 2015-04-16 18:31:25 No.5945

I have a t410 with the 1440x900 screen, it's great. High build quality and very fast.

Anonymous 2015-04-16 20:40:48 No.5946

>>5930
The genius probably thought that you were talking about gratis software.

Anonymous 2015-04-18 23:05:17 No.5964

>suffered from a few issues
Changes are that the following T series models - T60/p, T61 - designed by the original T series design team have the same flaws.
Thinkwiki has those long standing issues (some started with T20 and still present in T61) listed IIRC.
T400, X200 and onwards, you should not consider ThinkPads. Quality (of materials) and features are simply not there.
Never were fan of ThinkPads, because of the IBM+Intel pairing (the two most blood sucking, aiming for monopoly companies ever), but some models (OP's pic is somewhat related) before the terrible T series or even 600 series were surely well built machines. But then again, competition usually had just as well built machines, except for the nipple.

Anonymous 2015-04-19 10:31:19 No.5966

>>5900
What model is it? Year? It will take a bit of tinkering for sure but Mac hardware runs Linux well.

Anonymous 2015-04-19 18:35:36 No.5967

>>5964
what flaws?

rehboot 2015-04-20 18:16:20 No.5973

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buyed a T420s today, happy 4/20 guys!

Anonymous 2015-04-21 18:39:45 No.5983

>>5973
You in2 orienteering?

rehboot 2015-04-22 23:59:39 No.5996

>>5983
No, But taking a networking course soon!

Anonymous 2015-04-23 18:15:37 No.6002

>>5996
How does that Suunto device help with networking?

Anonymous 2015-04-24 14:39:30 No.6009

>>5930
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook

Anonymous 2015-04-26 19:27:39 No.6041

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Bought an x201 this week, install Wheezy on it which gets 30% batterylife than Ubuntu Mate 14.04.
On Wheezy I get 9-10 hours of batterylife while working.

I replaced my Asus Vivobook with it which only had 4 hours(at most) of batterylife. Don't even get me started on that retarded ripoff of an Apple charger.

ThinkPads are the way to go as they are cheap and have more than plenty of power.

Anonymous 2015-04-27 18:24:59 No.6051

>>6041
Enjoy your low frequency PWM flickering.

Anonymous 2015-04-27 19:14:53 No.6055

>>6041
> install Wheezy on it which gets 30% batterylife than Ubuntu Mate 14.04
30% what? More? Less?

Anonymous 2015-04-29 06:09:35 No.6072

>>6055
no no

he just accidentally 30%

Anonymous 2015-05-04 19:38:23 No.6238

OP here,
Picked up an X220 today by pure chance, using it now and it's pretty sweet.

It came with (32 bit, kek) Ubuntu 14.04 but I'll probably install FreeBSD or Gentoo.

Thanks to everyone who commented!

Anonymous 2015-05-04 22:54:58 No.6241

>>6041
tell me more about the battery. did you work to get it that long or did it just werk?

i recently got an x201 as well but the battery life is only about 4 hours. far too little.

rehboot 2015-05-04 23:35:59 No.6242

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>tfw can't find cheap T420s battery in canada

Anonymous 2015-05-05 11:59:22 No.6246

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I want a laptop with high res screen and looked up the Thinkpad T550, Dell XPS 15 4k and rMBP 15".
I know they're all expensive as fuarrrk but which one might be the best?

Anonymous 2015-05-09 14:51:12 No.6373

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380ED reporting in.

Anonymous 2015-05-12 15:55:07 No.6503

>>6051
I have no problems

>>6055
Meant less chummer

>>6241
For me it just werked, I received a battery that can hold 93% of the original charge.

Anonymous 2015-05-12 16:47:56 No.6506

>>6373
>Xircom card

How the fuarrrk did you get it working? I have a 310ED and I am running W95.

Anonymous 2015-05-12 22:13:41 No.6534

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>>6506

I managed to find the drivers online, its the creditcard ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56.

I usually use a GSM modem though, I can make voice calls with it.

Anonymous 2015-05-28 05:41:47 No.6964

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>>5973
I've got one too. Pretty fast and light, but the hardware reliability isn't as good; mine has a tendency to crash under graphical load, keys G and H have stopped working more than once, static all over the lower magnesium assembly, side USB port died.

For $500 in 2013 with 8GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD I can't really complain.

Anonymous 2015-05-28 07:30:41 No.6966

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Anonymous 2015-05-28 20:06:36 No.6971

>>6964
>>6966
>Using Windows and chrome
>using mouse
Get out of the matrix dude.

Anonymous 2015-05-28 22:08:06 No.6974

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>>6971
NEIN! DOCH!! OHHH!!!

Anonymous 2015-05-29 03:59:53 No.6979

>>6971
It's Xubuntu and Chromium Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous 2015-05-29 04:00:25 No.6980

>>6979
oh, nice word filter.

Anonymous 2015-05-29 04:35:08 No.6981

>>6979
Why would you remake the Windows experience?

Anonymous 2015-05-29 07:24:51 No.6982

>>6981
Because Sega does what Nintendon't.

Anonymous 2015-05-29 18:01:49 No.6983

>>6971
Thats not chrome… I hate Google.

Anonymous 2015-05-30 14:56:53 No.7011

>>6983
don't we all
i just reinstalled some browsers and accidentally google searched something. noticed those motherfuggers be using my IP address to save recent searches i made. officially nopenopenope

Anonymous 2015-06-04 13:35:42 No.7159

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Just got a t61. Upgraded it to 4gb RAM. Will probably get an SSD for it soon since it only came with a 60gb 5200rpm drive.
Also does anyone know if usb 3.0 expansion cards are available for it, if so which ones would work with this model?

Anonymous 2015-06-04 14:14:10 No.7162

>>7159
Why are you trashing you notebook that hard?
>Will probably get an SSD
See:
https://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5294_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312291400_-_the_exploration_and_exploitation_of_an_sd_memory_card_-_bunnie_-_xobs.html
>usb 3.0 expansion cards
It have proprietary firmware and already reported attacks.

You buy a old notebook to have good tech, then you put the soykaf tech on it again.
What's the point? Why not just buy a Dell or something?

Anonymous 2015-06-04 14:22:40 No.7163

>>7162
A fair point lainon, I forgot about that talk completely. Perhaps I should get a standard 7200rpm drive instead? The one this came with isn't in the best of shape and doesn't have much capacity.

Anonymous 2015-06-04 14:52:52 No.7166

>>7163
Maybe this one?
https://www.cru-inc.com/products/digital-cinema/digital-cinema-dx115/
The above is not listed on Spiegel documents (about HDD firmware exploits).
Also, it's used by cinema industry as a "high fidelity" data storage.
If you want security, use a CD-R would be the best...

Anonymous 2015-06-04 15:50:01 No.7167

>>7166
It's a good way to protect data, but I can't use it with my laptop since a power source isn't always nearby. I may have to settle for a standard hdd and just hope it isn't infected.

Anonymous 2015-06-04 16:05:02 No.7168

>>7167
Just don't buy from: Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor and Samsung.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/catalog-reveals-nsa-has-back-doors-for-numerous-devices-a-940994.html

Anonymous 2015-06-04 16:09:12 No.7169

>>7168
Thanks for the link. I appreciate the help! Am fairly new to computer security beyond the utmost basics.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 17:21:53 No.7501

How do you guys feel about t61 & t61p models? I know they are mostly the same thing one just has an nvidia gpu. A coworker of mine got around 60 models of each from the city. They are in great shape just wondering the consensus on them. If they are solid I will most likely buy about 5.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 18:33:09 No.7507

>>7501
I have the t61 and can't seem to find how to install libreboot on it.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 21:06:20 No.7513

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Anyone running the x250? Price seems a little steep but I love the look and form factor.

Opinions?

Anonymous 2015-06-15 03:34:25 No.7516

>>7513
Get an x230 or x220. Its just not as good other than a lit keyboard.

Anonymous 2015-06-15 12:54:20 No.7519

>>7501
T61p's have the BGA flaw, I would't get one tbh.

Also, don't believe what they say on the ThinkPad forums, it is NOT a chip related flaw, it's the BGA balls. Don't believe such situation where multiple people get naked, stand in a circle and jerk offforums.

Anonymous 2015-06-17 16:26:23 No.7597

i have a T420, can i put a battery via ultrabay? I only found a battery for T400 it would work on my thinkpad?
Also, should i buy a SSD for the thinkpad?
how about a SSD + HDD via ultrabay combo?

Anonymous 2015-07-17 21:41:33 No.8477

>>7597
The T420 doesn't support Ultrabay batteries sadly. I use the SSD + HDD combo on mine.

Anonymous 2015-07-24 17:47:09 No.8654

>>7519
Does that issue apply to the T61 model too? If so I should have done a bit more research before buying mine.

Anonymous 2015-07-24 17:56:15 No.8655

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Are the 70++ batteries worth $160 CDN? I bought a cheap T410 (needed a replacement laptop urgently, and a surplus store here sells refurbished ones), and the battery is in dire shape.

Anonymous 2015-07-24 22:44:29 No.8659

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I wanna buy laptop, because my PC (from 2008, no upgrades) is dying.
No need to have performance monster, but as musician and 1337 h4ck3r I need good CPU.
Not hardcore gamer anymore, but it would be pretty nice to be able to play Dota 2. (Intel Graphics 4000 tier)
Keyboard like in old ThinkPads is really important for me. Resolution should be 1920x1080.
The smaller/lighter the better. I can pay >= 500$ for used.
I am not sure if laptop like this exists, but thanks, lainons.

>adding pictures of destroyed hardware from /g/ for interest

Anonymous 2015-07-26 23:29:36 No.8687

I think I'm going to get a Gluglug X200. I'm paying a bit of a premium to have everything configured for me, but frankly I'm entirely okay with that. I'm going to reason a bit about it:

Pros:
>already configured the way I want
Excluding an SSD because I have one I'm going to install. The only additional cost to me is the 9-cell battery I intend to purchase. Beyond that, 8GB of RAM, Libreboot, etc.

>get everything in one place rather than shopping for individual components online
Don't have to worry too much about the quality since Gluglug has tech support and whatnot.

>Intel ME and AMT removed

>saves me time

Cons:
>will cost me approximately $600
I could probably save up to $200 configuring everything myself. However, it would take time that I am not interested in spending on this particular project

>lose out on experience installing Libreboot and getting the parts myself
Would be a fun little project, despite the fact I'm not particularly interested in taking the time to do it.

Anonymous 2015-07-26 23:50:49 No.8688

>>8687
Is there a way to replicate their BIOS flashing without the hardware they use? I'd love to get a new bios and disable AMT on my T410, but I had assumed I was SOL.

Anonymous 2015-07-28 08:29:46 No.8721

>>8659
not sure about being up with intel4000 grfx but i like my T61p.
Must be the 61p not just 61.

Nvidia Quadro (will play BF2 no problems - I know that's well old but was last game era I played)
has 1920x1080
has Keyboard
has thinkpad stuff like light
has good build quality
has not the slimmest design
has portability
has price tag of £$100 ish
has win written all over it

your welcome.

Anonymous 2015-07-28 10:48:44 No.8722

I want to buy a high capacity battery for my X220, should i go for Lenovos expensive 9-cell or something else?

Anonymous 2015-07-29 01:11:16 No.8739

>>8721
Uhh, T61p doesn't have 1920x1080 resolution. Firstly, its 16:10, so if it were fullHD it would be 1920x1200, and I know mine is 1440x900.
Besides that,
>portability
Yeah, it barely fits in my backpack, and weighs more than some of my bigger textbooks. Not slim at all, definitely not optimal for universtiy experience. (to solve this I bought a ~3 year old netbook, booted debian)
>win written all over it
>Nvidia card
This better be b8

>>8659
Anon, ditch thinking about buying a thinkpad that meets those requirements. You'll have to look for other brands which, sadly, will have soykaf keyboards. But you can buy a usb keyboard and carry that with you if it's really that important.

Look for ultrabooks

Anonymous 2015-07-29 03:18:13 No.8741

>>8721
>>8739
Thanks for responding, but now I think about this, my requirements were way too high. T61p has performance of my old desktop, which is nice for such low price, but I am looking for more power - maybe T420. I have found flawless "s" version for 270$, this might be good deal, omitting soykaf battery.

Anonymous 2015-07-29 04:41:18 No.8743

>>8741
T420s owner here, It's pretty good, and also only of the very few 'classical' thinkpads with USB3.0

My complains are the soykafty quality of the screen, and the poor battery life; but this thing is LIGHT, around 1.3 kg for a unit with SSD and even with a power brick in your bag it will be lighter than most laptops out there (for referemce, the 15" MBP is 2 kg)

Anonymous 2015-07-29 09:48:34 No.8745

Id like to get a libreboot x200 but its like 500 euro with shipping and taxes. Is it worth geting a regular x200? from a price perspective. Or should I get an x201

Anonymous 2015-07-29 22:52:35 No.8767

>>8743
Good to hear, these problems won't really bother me,
because I am always working near an electrical outlet,
and there is possibility to connect an additional monitor.

Anonymous 2015-08-10 23:58:51 No.9065

According to https://h-node.org/notebooks/view/en/1552/1000HD/1/1/undef/undef/undef/netbook/undef/yes/undef/undef, The 1000HD has good compatibility with free software(wifi werks and free bios). Has anyone owned this laptop and would recommend it over a t60/t61 with libreboot?

Anonymous 2015-08-11 21:56:10 No.9120

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got myself a x220! (finally)

5 more points for soykafty cellphone pic

Anonymous 2015-08-12 05:38:24 No.9130

>>8743
I own a T420 (not s) and what I did was get one of those PCI slot dual usb port cards.
Has additional advantage that you can glue the card in there if you're one of those people that glue up their FireWire port.

Anonymous 2015-08-12 05:39:27 No.9131

>>9130
ah yeah forgot to mention the card is necessary because T420 has no USB 3.0 ports

Anonymous 2015-09-01 14:40:55 No.9812

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Hey fam.

I need a new laptop, and I need it ASAP.

I was hoping to get a t550, but the discrete GPU is not available in the North American model.

I was going to buy the Lenovo Z70-80, but I stumbled across the ASUS N550JK. It has a better CPU and GPU and is the same price.

Is there any good reason *not* to buy the ASUS over the Z70-80?

Anonymous 2015-09-01 16:11:36 No.9817

>>8687
You forgot the most important Pro: You're supporting a great project. I can't think of any current free software project more worthy of your monetary support than Libreboot.

>>8688
No. In any case, the T410 is not supported.

>>8745
Depends what you mean by "worth it". The price/performance ratio is terrible, the X200 is a very old laptop. But that's not what you're paying for. The real question is how much do you value your freedom?

Anonymous 2015-09-01 16:58:17 No.9820

>>9812
buy thinkpad
install gentoo

Anonymous 2015-09-01 17:00:04 No.9821

>>9812
buy a laptop based on more than its specs.

Anonymous 2015-09-01 17:01:04 No.9822

>>9812
Used Retina Macbook Pro 15", they are half price on eBay, install whatever OS you want.

Anonymous 2015-09-01 17:05:59 No.9824

/tech/, should I buy a Toughbook 19 Mk6 or T31 Mk3? Both have i5 33xx CPUs, but the 31 has a (very rare tho) AMD discrete GPU option for muh games/AMD Stream and soykaf.

Anonymous 2015-09-01 17:07:36 No.9825

>>9824
Buy a thinkpad.

More importantly, grow up and stop playing video games.

Anonymous 2015-09-01 17:10:02 No.9826

>>9824
Which AMD GPU?

Anonymous 2015-09-04 00:00:20 No.9892

>>9826
31 Mk2 has a 6750M, Mk3 has a 7750M.

Anonymous 2015-09-04 00:20:44 No.9893

>>9824
i own a toughbook cf-19 MK5 and its really nice, i like it a lot. but like >>9825 said, you should just not play games.

toughbooks are workhorses made to withstand harsh working environments, they are not comfortable laptops with lots of processing power and screen resolution for gaming. one of the biggest things about toughbooks that i could tell you from my personal experience is that they are not especially comfortable to use, and if youre planning on getting one for gaming, and using the toughbooks keyboard for game controls, i think youre going to be disappointed. the last thing toughbooks are made for is gaming...

if you want one of the most rugged laptops for taking with you into the field, dropping on concrete, getting rained on, spilling water into, and overall just being cyb as fuarrrk and having military grade gear. buy the toughbook. it will last you years longer than any non-rugged laptop, and both those models will have more than enough processing power to be used for work/leisure until they break down and die. for those reasons, TBs are worth every penny.

but do not buy it if you are looking for a gaming laptop, that is one thing that they are not.

Anonymous 2015-09-04 04:29:47 No.9897

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>>9825

Anonymous 2015-09-04 11:35:41 No.9899

I never owned a thinkpad (or any kind of laptop for that matter) and am interested in getting one in order to install linux on it and learn how to use it, in addition to browsing the net/youtube. My main considerations would be a low price, lightweight and portability so ideally nothing above $150-200 range or even cheaper if I could get it. I've been considering the X200-201 models as they seem to fit the profile but wanted to get some /tech/ input. Any suggestions? Tnx

Anonymous 2015-09-04 14:10:59 No.9902

>>9899
You can get an X220 for that price range (assuming you're in the US).

The X61t I had also worked just fine for normal use as well, but the X220 is more modern.

Anonymous 2015-09-04 17:12:23 No.9906

>>9893
i'm actually the guy that also had a 19 Mk5 but broke it by submersing it

I won't be playing games all day long on that thing, and then not even intensive games, mostly Deus Ex, GTA SA and soykaf.

Mostly will be using it for IT related tasks, which my MSI GT780 is way too big for, plus the battery life of this thing is abysymal even when new.

Anonymous 2015-09-05 09:15:23 No.9927

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How do I install OpenBSD on my Thinkpad 420 that I got for college?

Anonymous 2015-09-05 15:23:35 No.9929

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>>9927
Go to OpenBSD.org -> Find download -> get install57.fs if you want to do it with a USB -> dd it to the usb drive -> plug into laptop -> boot usbdrive on laptop -> enter username, password, a few other things and keep hitting the enter key and you should have a fully working OpenBSD system within a few minuets.

Anonymous 2015-09-05 17:07:07 No.9931

>>9927
>>9929
why the fuarrrk would anyone use openbsd for college

Anonymous 2015-09-05 17:13:28 No.9932

>>9931
it just werks

Anonymous 2015-09-05 17:15:22 No.9933

>>9931
(S)He asked the how, I answered the how.

Anonymous 2015-09-05 17:17:34 No.9934

>>9932
When it works it works but when it doesn't work.... well let's take a sentence from the FAQ out of context.

"It is assumed you have read the above, and really enjoy pain. "

Anonymous 2015-09-08 19:55:09 No.10017

someone help $
My think pad has a built in camere aND microphone
WHAT DO I DO?

Anonymous 2015-09-08 20:33:37 No.10020

>>10017
I can dispose of it for you, my rates are more than reasonable.

But seriously, the camera can be blocked by a piece of opaque tape, micropone is more difficult unless you actually want to open it up and are ready to remove the electrical component.

Anonymous 2015-09-09 01:46:37 No.10032

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does anyone know how to unlock the bios password on an x201?

i dont know what chip its stored on...

Anonymous 2015-09-09 01:51:14 No.10033

>>10032
The only way to do that would be to reflaah the BIOS. Problem is, each thinkpad's BIOS is unique to their own. So unless there is a libreboot or coreboot version for your model, you're out of luck.

Anonymous 2015-09-09 02:07:01 No.10037

>>10032
>>10033
might be in luck
https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/X200-X201-Hardware-Flashing

Anonymous 2015-09-09 02:16:36 No.10039

>>10033
ive heard this before...

however i vaguely recall reading a couple tutorials with instructions on how to short out the ic that stores the password just long enough to change it.

>>10037
this looks somewhat promising
does anyone have experience with this stuff?
doesnt it involve a bit of soldering?

Anonymous 2015-09-09 04:05:54 No.10043

>>10039
No sodderijg, no. You're going to need an SOIC clip, an arduino/or a raspberry pi, and some jumper cables. I flashed my thinkpad x60 that way, it's not hard, you just need to open up the laptop and find the BIOS chip (Look online for the location of that)

Anonymous 2015-09-17 01:53:58 No.10354

ahahaah!

Anonymous 2015-09-17 18:26:59 No.10368

>Uni student
>need sub $200 laptop
>want to put openBSD on it
>want to have a multiple monitor set up
>connect it with a USB keyboard
>want it to be good, secure, tough as a motherfucker for my tinfoilness
what thinkpad do I buy

Anonymous 2015-09-17 18:37:21 No.10369

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>>10368
buy the thinkpad t420. I got mine for ~140 but you could find one for around 110-130.
All around great laptop with room for upgrades.

Anonymous 2015-09-17 19:09:14 No.10370

>>10369
but everyone says its bad or something
I don't even know anymore anon!

Anonymous 2015-09-17 19:22:38 No.10371

>>10368
x200 if you want wide-screen, x60 of you don't care. Install libreboot on it and you're good.

Anonymous 2015-09-17 20:29:22 No.10372

>>10370
T420 is OK hardware except the screen, which is like kicking dead whales down the beach balls. If you are planning on using an external screen anyways, go for it. If you want to use the laptop screen more, looks for a higher end T410, or maybe a T430.

Anonymous 2015-09-17 20:49:44 No.10373

>>10372
>which is like kicking dead whales down the beach balls

I think I had a minor aneurysm when I wrote that. I mean the screen is bad.

I honestly don't know how those words arranged themselves in my head and came out on the keyboard. I don't even remember writing that.

I am also getting some weird deja vu.

hold me lainons.

Anonymous 2015-09-17 21:05:11 No.10374

>>10373
Relax, it is word filter
>>10369
Now I want thinkpad too ;-;

Anonymous 2015-09-17 22:02:25 No.10377

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>>10373

Anonymous 2015-09-18 15:10:46 No.10442

I just bought a used X300 with Linux Mint preinstalled at ~150 €. I also acquired an authentic thinkpad mouse to go with. I haven't encountered any problems yet.

Anonymous 2015-09-19 10:59:44 No.10472

So, I am getting T420 (with 320GB drive) and curious about all the possibilities to expand disc space.

Anonymous 2015-09-19 16:00:24 No.10480

>>10472
>t420!!!
Nope!

Anonymous 2015-09-20 22:17:54 No.10563

>>10032
The previous two answers are incorrect.
This site is pretty much your only hope:
http://www.ja.axxs.net/read_this_first!.htm

Anonymous 2015-09-21 00:28:10 No.10568

>>10032
yank out the cmos battery, every one seems to be making this more complicated than it should be

Anonymous 2015-09-21 08:16:39 No.10597

I installed debian stable on my T450s yesterday, compatibility is pretty good. I only really needed to install firmware-iwlwifi. brightness works when writing to the brightness file in sys, so that should work. Haven't tried to setup clit scrolling, but everything seemed to be fine. battery life also looked alright. shouldn't be too hard to get working, especially if you use ubuntu or something.

Anonymous 2015-09-21 12:00:16 No.10601

Is there still any laptop that has no trackpad, just the clit?

Anonymous 2015-09-21 12:13:52 No.10603

>>10601
The X200 and X200 tablet seem glorious, what do you people think about it?

Anonymous 2015-09-21 12:41:11 No.10605

>>10603
I love my x200. I have 8gb of ram and an ssd in mine. It runs mint great, and it boots in under 15 seconds with full disk encryption.

Anonymous 2015-09-21 14:47:44 No.10608

>>10603
I have both, love the x200 to death, and the X200T is great, but the tablet feels a little bit more fragile.

Anonymous 2015-09-21 15:08:45 No.10611

>>10608
About the tablet, is it useful in the end or not really?

Anonymous 2015-09-21 15:33:44 No.10614

>>10611
If you like drawing, it could be really cool. Thing is, I furraking terrible at anything that requires precise hand-eye coordination, so it is pretty much useless. I used it for some math HW once, and it came out illegible, and I had to redo it.

Anonymous 2015-09-26 13:45:43 No.10894

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Hey lainons, I was thinking of buying a ThinkPad but after hearing all about the Lenovo Service Engine bug as well as Superfish and the hengzi chip thing, I'm getting very suspicious of Lenovo. I know that you can remove all of them with official software, but it seems rather unlikely that those three are the only malware that's installed.
How do you know that there are no more vulnerabilities and back doors left? Will replacing the BIOS/bootloader/OS/etc fully remove them? What if there are backdoors hidden in the motherboard itself? Are you all sure that your ThinkPads aren't sending data to Lenovo?

>inb4 intel cpu's have backdoors too

Also the model I was thinking of was the x220t.

Anonymous 2015-09-26 15:00:05 No.10895

>>10894
Best bet will be to just buy an older model. x220t will be a newer one, so you can just downgrade to an x200t or 201t.

If you want to go full libreboot but still want the tablet, some models of the x60t work. You could also get the x200 (non tablet) which has much better compatibility than the 200t. Then again, messing with the bios is like kicking dead whales down the beach for me so I can't personally recommend it.

My x200t works great as a portable workstation, and my T61p (inb4 >nvidia gpu) is basically my desktop, always on the docking station, and hooked up to a monitor and all my peripherals.

Anonymous 2015-09-26 16:56:04 No.10900

>>10895
Are there any significant advantages to using an older model? (apart from the hardware and security)

Anonymous 2015-09-26 20:51:06 No.10916

>>10900
Cheaper, more durable, keyboard is better (x220t has the good kb though), worse specs at the price of better support. I like the screens better on the older ones. The most new ones are going to be the most restrictive to the power users (harder to take apart, more soykaf in the bios, etc)

Anonymous 2015-10-10 07:07:58 No.11892

So I was thinking about getting a Lenovo B50 laptop, it looks sleek, is relatively cheap, and has a nice display + specs. Any ideas on that? I was going to hook it up to a HDD enclosure with my animu and play it on my TV.

Anonymous 2015-10-10 07:09:58 No.11893

>>11892
Also I was planning on formatting the drive and installing Debian on it, since it comes with a boated Win7

Anonymous 2015-10-10 09:11:20 No.11905

I'm going to begin my Computer Science degree soon so I'm looking for a laptop I can take with me. I'd like to run some distro of GNU+Linux on it. Portability and durability are probably the most important things for me. I don't require anything fancy like a discrete GPU since I have a desktop for things of that nature but at the same time it would be nice if I could run some basic games like CS:GO at a decent frame rate if I wanted to, although this isn't a priority and I'm sure an integrated GPU could do this. Also a quiet fan would be nice since I'd be taking it to lectures.

Anonymous 2015-10-10 19:27:24 No.11929

Hijacking/considering this thread as Thinkpad general,

should I switch my x201 for a x220? Are the benefits large? I'm asking 'cause I didn't customize (as in, stick anything on) my x201 and I don't know if I need that upgrade or not really.

Anonymous 2015-10-10 20:34:14 No.11932

>>11929
If you don't know, you don't need.

Anonymous 2015-10-10 21:38:15 No.11937

>>11932
That's what I thought at first. I might need more computing power in the future, but I'll have (I hope ;_;) money for it by then...

Anonymous 2015-10-11 02:31:34 No.11952

>>8722
bump for this anon's question. I too have a freshly purchased x220 and am wondering if i should buy a cheap battery, repack my own or pay for some local company to repack it.

Anonymous 2015-10-12 06:01:08 No.12043

Using asus 1001pxd for work now, it does what i need, but still consider switching to some thinkpad eventually.

Anonymous 2015-10-12 16:13:05 No.12059

>>5900
Quick question, I have always purchased the ThinkPad Business class line, I have at least 20 thinkpads in my house right now, but at the moment I am looking for something that can get me around 10 hours in battery life on a charge, with the lowest battery settings etc.

I was really hoping for a ThinkPad X1 Carbon, but from what I have read, the battery life kinda is like kicking dead whales down the beach . Are those statements wrong? If they are, is there anywhere I can pick up an X1 carbon for less than $700? Are their any better alternatives?

Thank you!

Anonymous 2015-10-12 16:16:37 No.12060

>>11905
I would recommend a ThinkPad X230. People will argue for the X220, which, to be very honest is at a much better price point, but the integrated graphics in the X230 are the only ones that are really up to playing light Valve games like CS:GO. You can most likely pick one up for around $250-$300, I got one with two chargers, two new batteries, and a dock for $320 after shipping.

Anonymous 2015-10-13 15:52:27 No.12135

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Don't know if this is the right place, but does mpv framedrop like crazy on anyone else's T60? (ATI gpu) If I launch mpv with --vo=xv it lags less, but uses up much more cpu which I would like to avoid.

Anonymous 2015-10-13 16:00:50 No.12136

>>12135
What driver versions are you using for the GPU? Some allow hardware acceleration and some do not.

Anonymous 2015-10-13 16:09:30 No.12137

>>12136
Using base drivers included with antergos, I can't seem to find a useable driver for the ATI x1300 gpu.

Anonymous 2015-10-13 17:05:43 No.12138

>>12137
radeonsi works perfectly fine with that gpu and you dont even need firmware blobs with it (and its based on x1600 and you have T60p).
Just use xv, its the best compromise between cpu cycles (correct, gpu decoding usually takes less cycles), tearless playback and combatibility (vdpau doesnt decode all codecs perfectly, some not at all and radeonsi drivers, last time i checked, doesnt support it fully).

Anonymous 2015-10-13 17:11:48 No.12141

>>12138
thanks for the tip!

Anonymous 2015-10-13 17:20:43 No.12142

>>12138
And it seeems you are trying to use gl layer, which eats gpu cycles pretty happily (in other words much more than xv does cpu cycles). In fact now that i think of it, rv530 does not support vdpau at all, so its out of question. xv layer is your best bet.

Anonymous 2015-10-13 23:31:07 No.12160

is it possible to install openbsd on librebooted x200?

Anonymous 2015-10-19 20:16:57 No.12540

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What are your thoughts on UMPCs? I've been thinking about buying pic related, but they all seem hella expensive, even ones from the early 2000s.

Anonymous 2015-10-19 20:48:52 No.12543

>>12540
Look for Netbooks, not UMPCs. I got like 5 of them with a few different distros. I love them, but I can't say I'm a fan of the tiny ass keyboard.

Anonymous 2015-10-20 09:15:45 No.12563

I bought an X61 for 100 bucks, probably the best buy ever, I use it as my main machine right now.

It's powerful enough for the brewing soykaf I do, the hoarding of chinese cartoons and other stuff.
The keyboard is godly too, certainly not something I expected of a laptop.

Anyway I am looking to upgrade to a desktop, this thing allowed me to get a taste of Linux and I liked it.

anonfiles 2015-10-20 10:34:31 No.12565

I am using a T400 and an X200 Tablet, both are very good machines for generic computing.

Anonymous 2015-10-20 10:45:29 No.12566

>>12160
Probably, try it.

Anonymous 2015-10-20 14:18:01 No.12568

>>12540
I think they're really sexy — I've been looking for a device with a QWERTY keyboard (the kind you can type on with all of your fingers, not just the thumbs) that I can fit in a (big) pocket forever, but I've been unable to find anything affordable so far.

Anonymous 2015-10-30 16:58:04 No.13228

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>>10017
Just search the net for a diagram of your thinkpad motherboard and remove it yourself.
Also, the microphone component seems pretty obvious to me(pic related).

Anonymous 2015-11-01 22:22:19 No.13335

>>10017
there is an LED that comes on if it is accessed and I dont think it can be circumvented

Anonymous 2015-11-01 22:38:35 No.13337

I have arch installed on a t420. It has a 60GB SSD and I could remove the CD drive for additional storage, but I'm finding that 60GB is plenty since I don't horde data.

I've had literally no problems with it whatsoever. It boots up within 10 seconds and runs faster than any non-linux computer that I've used.

Anonymous 2015-11-02 00:00:56 No.13344

Just bought an x60s and installed Plebian.

What now?

Anonymous 2015-11-03 14:11:23 No.13467

>>10017
black tape and a screwdriver jammed into the mic should do it, alternatively install gentoo

Anonymous 2015-11-06 05:50:14 No.13587

How can I buy a Clevo or similar directly from China?

I've been using a system76 panp7 for the last maybe 5 years. It's rock solid and even though it's finally failing now after two batteries, god knows how many chargers, I really liked it and could keep using this brand for a while, but don't want to pay an OEM reseller.

Alternatively, what laptop should I get if I'm willing to spend between 2-3k? This is what I'm looking for:

>CUDA-capable GPU
>biggest processor I can get
>minimum of 2 physical drive bays (fsck SSDs)
>ideally ultrabook form factor but I don't really give a fuarrrk about lifting heavy things, I want to optimize for using my computer not carrying it
>ideally long battery life but see above

I like the system76 oryx but worry it's just an overpriced chinese model that I could probably get if I cybed it up enough on alibaba.

Alternatively I could get a really good thinkpad, and if I do it in the next few months I get an employee discount from a tech company you've definitely heard of (#internlife), so it'd take a 3.5k purchase down to 2.75k or so.

I want this to last for the next 5-7 years and be a beast all the way until the fan starts dying like my poor panp7/W765CUH.

Anonymous 2015-11-08 04:32:50 No.13693

>>10568
EPROM

Anonymous 2015-11-09 19:36:03 No.13760

Based on your experience with used Thinkpads, how long do they last?

I wanna buy one to install Libreboot on it but don't have much money nor live in America. Do you think an used one would last me all college (4-5 years)?
Should I buy a new one? Just buy a completely different laptop?

Give me your advice pls.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 20:04:06 No.13762

>>13760
a used new ish one like something made 2012+ with ivy bridge or better.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 20:30:27 No.13763

Are there laptops with just great screens (IPS with a good sRGB percentage) that isn't geared towards gamers? I don't care if it even has a dedicated graphics card. I would sacrifice performance in a lot of departments.

Would be used for BSD.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 21:31:25 No.13766

>>13760
Thinkpads rarely just up and die. The only things I have had to replace are Hard drives, batteries, and fans, but if you get a model like the T61 or T61p, the GPU will become de-soldered after a while, and you will have to do a re-flow or replace the board. I would suggest getting a T400 if you are thinking of LibreBooting. They are fast, reliable, and cheap, even in Europoor (I have shipped them there complete for $80.) If libreboot is not as important to you, I would shell out an extra $50-$80 for a T420. They are plenty fast an reliable, and very cheap now.

>>13763
The older p series thinkpads where pretty nice in that department, (although I would not suggest going out and grabbing a T61p because of the aforementioned GPU issue.) Some of the W series thinkpads have pretty good screens, I really liked the 1080p screen I put on my W520. Other than that, the Dell precision laptop lineup is pretty good in that department. Also, people are going to dislike this, but the screen on the rMBP is really next to none in terms of resolution and color, although it may be out of your budget, but it has pretty good *BSD support.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 21:42:27 No.13767

>>13766
The Macbook was at the top of list of what laptop I would actually buy because it gives a killer screen and doesn't mark up too badly for hardware inside. (Lower end of the rMB/P series).

Anonymous 2015-11-09 21:51:49 No.13768

>>13767
Honestly, I would say go for it. Objectively, the hardware is reliable, high quality, and aesthetically pleasing.

If I could afford a 15" rMBP, I would buy one, but it is not really on the plate right now.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 22:08:10 No.13769

>>13766
Where do you import from?
I'm from Latin America and I can't buy from Ebay because the shipping is always 70$+ for some fuarrrking reason.

Looking around my country's websites I've found some good T400, T430 and T440s ranging from 120$ to 240$ but they all have shitty "lasts 1 hour" batteries, so I'll probably buy the cheapest and spend the rest on a new battery, unless the battery improves considerably installing Linux.

Anonymous 2015-11-09 23:12:58 No.13771

>>13769
I am an eBay seller, so I ship to south america and Europe from the US, and it really does not cost all that much.

If you could grab a T430 for around $250, and stick in a new battery, that would be a great machine.

Anonymous 2015-11-11 03:14:00 No.13799

>>13587
Bampu pantsu

Any advice?

Anonymous 2015-11-14 04:15:12 No.13884

Thinkpad or toughbook (or something else entirely)? I want to get a new laptop for college, but I'm going to try to be much less wasteful, since the last laptop I got was an alienware, and it still fuarrrks up regularly. I'll also probably be getting a new phone soon, on which I'd also like advice (in reference to compatibility between it and the computer, especially).

I'd really like a laptop which runs very consistently because of these previous issues. Speed is helpful, but only for normal use. I don't play computer games, but I do torrent a lot of stuff, as well as watch a lot of videos.

I also want to play around with a variety of OSs and distros, so a good functionality with that is important to me. I'm looking to get more into /cyb/ and crypto computer use in daily life.

The more adaptable the computer is, the better. That way, if I fuarrrk up, I can fix things by adding and/or removing hardware as necessary. On this same note, my preference is definitely for a laptop that doesn't come preloaded with a webcam and mic, since I'd have to waste time and possibly harm the computer by removing these.

I like the idea of a toughbook because I admire its ruggedness and portability. Who wouldn't want to use a laptop in the shower? I actually bought an old one without a hard drive because I thought I could expand its ram to make it functional, and I attempted to do so, but I couldn't manage to run Tails on it. I might try out something like DSL on it, though.

I'm definitely a newfag when it comes to hardware, so much so that I have no idea where to even begin to look for a source of intelligent opinions. If there are any lainchan approved sites, then please direct me to them. Otherwise, I welcome any and all opinions. My budged for all this is uncertain, but maybe somewhere along the lines of $1-2k USD.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 23:50:24 No.14208

>>13884
Toughfag here, get a 19 Mk5/6 if you need portability for college.

Anonymous 2015-11-30 16:00:38 No.14474

How is the battery life of your Thinkpad? Only used old ones with a desktop usage (always plugged on) and I will need something more powerful than my little Eeepc 1005ha. After more than 3 years of usage it still has a battery life of roughtly 7 hours. I fear something like this is not possible to do with bigger machine I'll be gladly wrong.

Anonymous 2015-11-30 22:34:23 No.14480

>>5907
Get out

Anonymous 2015-12-01 01:08:10 No.14484

>>13884
>>14208
another toughfag here, cf-19 mk5 reporting in.
i would definitely recommend this laptop, because:

> my battery lasts anywhere from probably 5-7 hours, and its not anywhere near new.
> i have dropped it on concrete many times.
> it has been rained on.
> no built in mic or webcam, physical switch to disable bluetooth/wifi radios, also bios options.
> touchscreen
> has a lot more than 3,000 hours of accumulated operating time, and still works flawless.

bad things:

> the "dual touch" model, which registers pen input and finger input differently, i haven't been able to correctly calibrate finger touch on linux, it still works, but not calibrated perfect(can scroll webpages with finger, also click links, but the closer to the edge of the screen, the more off the input is). the non dual-touch model apparently dosent have this problem in linux, touch input with the pen works fine either way, this is also not a problem in windows because of drivers.

thats my only issue with it, its a small issue, and only with the "dual touch" model. i am running arch, void, debian, and windows 7 on this laptop, so no problems in that regard. also, toughbook parts are all over the internet.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 01:16:37 No.14485

>>14480
fuck is a shitty filter, though.

shit, on the other hand, is rice as hell

Anonymous 2015-12-01 05:11:21 No.14488

>>14485
What the fuarrrk? Are the filters gone now?

Anonymous 2015-12-01 05:14:59 No.14489

>>14488
I guess not. Sorry.
And sorry for not saging.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 03:11:14 No.14531

>>14488
I think the trick is that the filters don't work at the start of the new line, probably because the filter code doesn't handle newline characters properly when checking words.

soykaf shit

language enhancer language enhancer

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