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 No.12952

Recently, there has been a lot of controversy and confusion over the de-listing of /tech/. As one of the new /tech/ mods, I would like to make a statement and clear some of this up.

/tech/ was de-listed because of the general soykaf brewing, lack of intelligent conversation, and general glitterboyism.

Now that /tech/ is back on the header, we need to make some changes around here. All you have got to do is follow the rules. The ones that you need to take special care to are those that follow.

1. You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soy

2. Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks.

3. Don't respond with aggression to perceived flames or trolls (or at all.)

Any posts that break these rules will be removed, and repeat offenders will be drezzed.



Feel free to ask any questions below.
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 No.12960

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>>12952
Will a continuation of the previous board behavior result in a permanent deletion of /tech/?

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 No.12961

>>12960
Hopefully it will not get to that point.

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 No.12983

>>12952
May I ask what a glitterboy is?

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 No.12984

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 No.12997

>>12952
Who are you, OP. What's your name on IRC?

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 No.12998

Can you please include concrete examples of posts on /tech/ demonstrating:

- general soykaf brewing
- lack of intelligent conversation
- general glitterboyism

This way we may better re-evaluate our behavior.

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 No.13001


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 No.13002

>>13001
The first one is an example of "flames or trolls" They're implying emacs is not as good, which is untrue. Emacs is good for some, vim is good for some, etc. It's ok to say "I use/like emacs because ___" or "Vim is the worst because ___" Because that's just stating opinion and has a reason.

The second one is similar, except with more autism. Honestly, anyone who cares about what OS someone else uses should get a life. Or go to 4chan.org/g/

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 No.13003

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Tech will just be a plank for fagot. No right to say what you think, no right to say what you have in the hearth and throw it directly in the face of your interlocutor...
Meanwhile, when /tech/ in getting recked by socialo-feministo-glitterboyo-jew, /tay/ just continue it's road in the bigger fagot thread I've ever seen.

Lainchan is not for cyberpunk. It's not for anarchist. It's not for hacker.
IT'S FOR fuarrrkING FAGOT WHICH CRY WHEN YOU SAY "YOU ARE A DUMB fuarrrk".


FUCKING CUNT.

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 No.13005

>>12952
If you want to make subboards or get mixed boards catalog, ask it for me. I can provide the script, and it's working. If you are interested, please come to >>>/λ/10997 and ask how to configure.
Mixed catalog is as it sounds, you can see threads in multiple boards in a catalog. Subboards I can provide is user's tagging. #XXXX in any posts becomes its thread's tag, and you can search or hide threads by them.

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 No.13007

>>13003
You can say what you want, just don't be an asshole about it. It's really not hard. And if you have a say something, have a reason for it. If you think you have 'no right to say what you think' then you're probably not giving good reason for saying something. Or you want to say something not worth saying.

Why is it so hard to have civilized conversation? If you don't want that, just go back to /g/, bro.

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 No.13085

>>13001
So basically trying to be /g/ with extremism and starting religious wars?

>>13003
Also seems like an example of how /tech/ got deleted.

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 No.13087

>>13003
You sound like you would rather be on /g/, where you can say almost whatever you want and ruin anyone's discussion for no reason with no consequences.
I don't think anyone cares about what you say unless you can't back it up and just want to brew soykaf.

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 No.13092

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1. No bullies
2. No being mean
3. If you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all
4. NO bullies
5. Up/Downvoting when???

This is how sub-chans die

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 No.13094

>>13092
Your sages have no power here; the thread is pinned.

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 No.13109

Don't be afraid to report anyone whom you consider might be offending these rules.
This board needs to be cleaned and us mods will try our best to be fair.

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 No.13110

>>13003
go back to jinteki or whatever soykaff factory you came from

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 No.13160

>>13092
I think you've missed the point of what's going on here.
This isn't about building a super-safe hugbox to avoid offending people, this is about weeding the garden so that interesting conversations aren't getting drowned out by tonnes of soykaf.

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 No.13161

imageboards need hate speech so as to keep the oversensitive normalfags out

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 No.13163

>>13161
>imageboards need hate speech so as to keep the oversensitive normalfags out
This is a terrible idea, and I have no idea why it's so popular. It's analogous to pissing on your floor to try and keep burglars out - it always harms you more than them.

Secondly, the whole idea of "keeping normalfags out" is broken. Rather than reciting phrases, you need to think about what you are specifically trying to accomplish. If you're worried about non-technical people with mainstream opinions invading LC, then don't; there's nothing here to appeal to them anyway. If you're worried about soykafdrinkers and assholes invading the site, then soykafchugging and acting like an asshole is the exact opposite of a solution.

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 No.13167

>>13163
True-true! Because one major fallacy is to consider nazis and other racists to be some kind of trodgolyte that doesn't understand technology.

As a matter of fact, they have always pioneered new uses for technology.* In the 30s they used radio. In the 90s they had a strong presence on the internet. And now some 20 years later, everyone has access to internet. So trying to scare n00bs away by being "badical" will only attract nazis with internet access.

Thinking that you can solve proplems by having a tough front, having only a tough front is a sign of weakness. Of course /λ/ would be unbearable if it had a daily OP about IDEs for n00bs that doesn't even lurk. But on the other hand, a board where you have to drag answers out of the supposedly knowledgeable users, nail by nail is even worse.

Users who are truly knowledgeable understands the importance of being polite and can ask control questions if necessary. They understand that a simple answer today may lead to a complex answer tomorrow. Not so for the supposedly knowledgeable. For them any question that won't lead to the answer "-pnghu $$extra %chromosome //wlock.32.spyboter" is beyond their contempt.

Now, imagine a camera store that only sells highly specialized and expensive cameras. The customers are mostly government agencies and corporations. Just a few times a year some rich hobbyist buys a camera from them. So the question is why they even bother to have a store. Why not just have an office? The hobbyists shouldn't complain, no?

Ah, but the store is important for the self-image of the owners. They want to present themselves as the big tent where everyone is welcome. Yet every commoner that enters the store are constantly belittled. But the store owners takes no clue. They think that it's just a matter of time before every person on the planet owns a MMagnalux 3200/gw-camera. It costs only €3000 and weighs just 10 Kg without the extras.


*) The same goes for criminals. When CBE became popular then evading the interstate highway police became an american pstime In the 80s having a pager was a sign that you was a crack pusher.

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 No.13175

>>13092
If you want upvoting/downvoting, please go to reddit. I like the fact that this place has none of that because it allows me to hold my opinions first instead of being tricked into liking whats the highest voted post when i see one. Also, neutrality.

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 No.13180

>>13175
Yeah. Forums may have the like or upvote-downvote option. Not that the post does have to disappear. But it does weed out the unnecessary posts.

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 No.13201

>>13163
why would you want to be part of a board you couldn't, or were afraid to, speak your mind on?

There is always lereddit for that.

lax moderation helps avoid a cult of personality.

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 No.13202

>>13175
He was being sardonic, as in, he didn't like any of those "rules".

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 No.13205

>>13201
>why would you want to be part of a board you couldn't, or were afraid to, speak your mind on?
I wouldn't. That's why I'm here.

(Good) Moderation isn't supposed to prevent people from speaking their mind, it's supposed to clean out trolling/soykafdrinking and set the minimum standards for the discussion.
You can still talk about what you want to, so long as you're actually discussing /something/ and put effort into your posts.

To stick with the garden analogy: weeding the garden isn't going to cut down on the variety of fruit we get to eat, because you can't eat the weeds anyway. If anything, it's going to encourage MORE variety of plants, because not every kind of plant can compete with fast-growing weeds.
I don't have anything against the overgrown look that untended gardens can get, but that's not what we're going for here.

>There is always lereddit for that.

Lainchan and Reddit are completely different sites with very different standards and expectations. I'm not really sure why people bring this analogy up all the time.

>lax moderation helps avoid a cult of personality.

How? I don't see the connection.

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 No.13217

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>>13201
>why would you want to be part of a board you couldn't, or were afraid to, speak your mind on?
Disregarding Usenet-, Facebook- and Google+-groups there is A LOT of internet forums and imageboards.

So how come that every imageboard must become a cadet branch of /pol/ (shor for "God, I fuarrrking hate niggers and must tell everyone about it!")? Always.

That leads to the question if racists really are monomaniacs. Are all of them only and only racists? I doubt it. Some may be interested in gardening or classic cars. But what would they think if their forums for gardening or classic cars was constantly spammed with rants about niggers? They would proably hate it, but the irony would be lost on htem.

Moderators have no qualms about keeping the topics of /lit/ and /rpg/ apart, even if there's overlapping fields between literature and video games. So how hard is it to declare every board a non-/pol/ board?

Of course, real politics will seep in, because it's part of real life. But a simple observation why this or that company failed in the 70s does not warrant a "containment" board. (More like a petri jar where a culture can be grown before it infects the other boards.)

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 No.13223

>>12952
I've posted a description about usage, see >>>/λ/11166

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 No.13233

>>13205
>>13217

Not saying the arbitrary line doesn't have to be drawn somewhere, but hasn't brewing soykaf always been against the rules?

Just wouldn't want to see this place end up like cyber on infin

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 No.13243

can i wage slave plan 9 and suckless here

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 No.13252

>>13233
There's brewing soykaf and then there's brewing soykaf.

The more "civilized" racists (think David Duke - the man with a thousand face-lifts) perfer to have a formally civil conversation about the importance of the physical elimination of niggers.

His less civilized brethren (those who has yet to come out of ther white sheets) are more like "KILL ALL NIGGERS NOW111!!! XD".

The last kind of soykaf is pretty easy to curb. But the first is more insidious, because it can be used in a more sustained way. E.g. once every day on /pol/ a new thread will be started where "both sides of the issue can be heard" and everyone who is not in favor of the final removal of niggers can have their say.

And letting the first kind of soykaf pass but not the second is totally "poor autist that can read musical notes but not play an instrument".

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 No.13253

Moved to >>>/q/7601.



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