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ID: de4cd No.2976

Has anyone here played Read Only Memories? It is apparently very much like Snatcher. Set in Neo-Francisco "a vibrant city of low life and high tech", 2064.

I hope to have something to actually say about it soon, and hopefully some of you will too.
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ID: d09a4 No.2977

>genderqueer characters
>she/seek - "One neat feature... is ability to schoose which gender to identify(with a genderqueer option), or simply no labels at all"

jesus tumblr is strong in this game

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ID: ac2eb No.2978

watched a gameplay of this the other day. looks pretty good, /cyb/ as fuarrrk for sure.

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ID: feb4e No.2979

>>2976
just dl'ed the demo, seems cool. i really dig the retro art style. anyone got a torrent for the full version? (linux pls)

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ID: da877 No.2980

>>2976
It's not Free Software, is it?

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ID: de4cd No.2991

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>>2977
Yeah, but that stuff doesn't have to be a bad thing and I definitely won't score the game any less because of it. It doesn't seem to be ham-fisted or try force anything down you throat. Also you get asked your diet too which is kinda funny.

>>2979
Only seen the Windows versions sorry, might have to try in Wine.

>>2980
Unfortunately like most vidya, no.

Anyway, I quite like it. It is very reminiscent of Snatcher. I like the art, they have kinda captured that early PC look but comparing it to Snatcher, ROM is more simplistic and less detailed.
The animation is quite good too.

It works with a gamepad, which is nice to use with my TV. There's a lot of writing for trying to 'look' and 'use' and 'speak' to everything, and it's done in that kind of "jokingly talking to yourself" kind of way. Not sure how to put it.
The soundtrack is great so far too. So yeah, I like the game a bunch and it's nice to sit down and just take it all in and sift though the scenes looking at objects and talking to people.
Looks like it's gonna deal with some sentient/sapient AI stuff as well which I love. Looking forward to playing some more.

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ID: de4cd No.2992

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I had a feeling but I didn't think it was actually made by people who were in this deep.
I mean, I don't have anything against non-white or non-straight people but I hope the game doesn't become compromised down the line from too much of this stuff trying to pander to "the LGBT community" or whatever.

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ID: feb4e No.2993

>>2991
there is a nix version, that's how i played the demo. i just can't find a full version torrent. i'll keep digging.

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ID: 702af No.2994

>>2992
>LGBTQI scene wants total acceptance and immigration within the mainstream
>'We're people too, we shouldn't be thought of as "just gay ____" or discriminated against due to our sexualities'
>finally accepted, gay marriage legal nationwide, no point in protesting because LGBTQI crowds are no longer discriminated against by anybody willing to listen to reason

>people like that go out of the way to separate themselves and form their own special clubs with only gay gamers

the future is now and it's so lame

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ID: 74f64 No.3002

>>2992
Dropped.

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ID: f8bc0 No.3005

>>2994
LGBT is separate from queer

it's basically the difference between MLK and Malcolm X

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ID: 702af No.3007

>>3005
Thanks anon. The analogy's appreciated but I don't entirely understand it.
Are you saying that the queer scene is generally more extreme than the LGBT scene?

I've heard the term LGBTQ almost as much as I have LGBT alone; I only include intersex in the acronym to show that I support the barebones ideas of the movement.

Is there an 'official' separation (ie both sides agree to distinguish themselves from the other) or is it better not to include queers because of the massive differences in ideology?

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ID: c774a No.3008

They really went with Neo-San Francisco? That's somewhat lame. Just doesn't have the same ring to it as Neo Kobe City

On the plus side, when I checked on steam for a *nix version I saw this game has gotten the thumbs up from FemFreq. You know it is a good game when Anita likes it.

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ID: f8bc0 No.3009

>>3007
Generally, LGBT advocates focus on normalizing homosexuality within mainstream culture, queer advocates focus on advancing the culture of abnormality separate from the mainstream. Some people who call themselves "queer" aren't homosexual, bisexual, or transgender.

There's not an official separation insofar as LGBT groups frame themselves as being opposed to queer groups and vice-versa, but there's a difference in intentions and approach.

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ID: 84f99 No.3040

>>3009
why try to explain this soykaf to random anons, dude, they won't get it

>or is it better not to include queers because of the massive differences in ideology?


you're just giving it ammo

let's keep lainchain prole

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ID: f8bc0 No.3042

>>3040
It's important for people to understand that divisions exist within apparently unified social movements, even if they only vaguely understand what those divisions are.

When people can't see that, they move further and further towards separating everyone into "those who think like me and are good" and "those who don't think like me and are evil".

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ID: c1d02 No.3043

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>>3008
>You know it is a good game when Anita likes it.
>mfw
I guess it can go either way, i mean i liked Sword&Sorcery, but it was pretty weak for an adventure game.

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ID: c1d02 No.3044

>>3042
>fractally dividing human groups
>instead of just focusing on the individuals
>judging people by ideology
Is this the forties or something?

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ID: 74f64 No.3045

>>3044
Ugh, it's no longer the previous year, races are a thing and genetics play a huge role in behaviour and intelligence.

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ID: c1d02 No.3046

>>3045
>races are a thing
Abusing statistics and misuse of the sampling problem is a thing.
>genetics play a huge role in behaviour and intelligence
nurture >= nature != 0

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ID: 74f64 No.3047

>>3045
>Oh I don't believe THOSE stats
>nature trumps nature
It isn't the 60s anymore, it's 2015.

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ID: 74f64 No.3048

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>>3047
Was meant for >>3046

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ID: c1d02 No.3049

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>>3047
>I don't believe THOSE stats
I don't "believe" in statistics, I only know what has been proven mathematically to be true because of said proofs.

So yeah you can probabilisically say something about a population by sampling, but that says nothing inherently about a consequence of being part of that population.
People seldom disagree about statistics, they do about their interpretations, which are almost always abusive.

Causality and correlation are two very different things and even then, statistical empiricism only works all things being equal, which is rarely the case.

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ID: de4cd No.3141

>>3008
Yeah it doesn't sound nearly as cool, but it makes sense they wanted to set this one in America. It makes even more sense they wanted to set it in San Fran given how... "progressive" it seems the devs are.

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ID: 5f682 No.3180

>>2977
>schoose
is that a typo or a thing

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ID: 5f682 No.3181

>I only know what has been proven mathematically to be true because of said proofs.
What do you mean by this
the only things you hold to be true are that which exist in an abstracted plane of logic, that can't be directly translated to the "real" world without introducing ambiguity, and thus the loss of "conclusive truthhood"?
Or just that you don't trust statistics except for the mathematics that underlie it
which in that case, going by that you don't trust any and all forms of statistics, due to problems related to interpretations (and presumably the malleability of a given interpretation), then whats your mode of operation given that there are no 'provable' truths and it all boils down to a shaky assumption of what constitutes the 'real world'? In other words, given that you're naturally forced to work on some form of statistics, in that you can only hold object permanence because it has so far rendered true (within the sample size that is your own awareness), you can't actually distrust statistics and their interpretations in full (unless you doubt your own, but then where are you?). Do you not trust the statistics you yourself have not interpreted, or the interpretations given by any media source, or the interpretations given (directly) by 'experts'?

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ID: 16ce7 No.3182

Like Snatcher gameplay or story wise?

Actually don't tell me I don't want to know.

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ID: 4e4fe No.3183

I heard it's extremely preachy and is like kicking dead whales down the beach . Again, that's only what I've heard, I haven't actually played it. That said someone gave it a steam review which was fun to read and soykaf on it pretty thoroughly, I think it's ranked near the top.

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ID: 17f5f No.3275

>>2976
My first impression was that it's a really nice game, so I played for a while.

But boy...they really try to shove that tumblr stuff down your throat to the point that I stopped playing.

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ID: 2a3d3 No.3288

>>2991
>custom pronouns
So, I can have the game refer to me as something like "that fuarrrker/this fuarrrker/that fuarrrker's/you fuarrrker"?

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ID: 702af No.3295

>>2976
Pretty disappointing. The game looked like it had a lot of promise, so I found a copy and downloaded it.
It's not even worth touching. The art is a lot clunkier in game and the point n' click gameplay isn't as much a style choice as it is a method of user restriction; no putting hamsters in microwaves, no messing around with objects in short minigames, at best the game spits out a snarky two sentence quip about why your character would never do what you want them to do or why you should be focusing on what it wants you to focus on.
Weird pronouns and PC in games can generally be overlooked but this game was made by a group of people who didn't realize that making identity politics a focal point of the game completely alienates anybody who isn't part of the scene.

Not a lot to enjoy anyways. If you went into the game files with and took out all of the plot filler and shitty political stuff, at least two thirds of it would be gone.
>>3288
Names cap out at ten characters and pronouns cap out at five.

If the devs are going to give me complete freedom in choosing what your character wants to be called, you'd think they'd at least let you have a little fun with it.



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