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>>18847
What if we could build a system from the ground up - not like anything designed before… Having input from every person in the system for the benefit of “the people”. Maybe that means profits go down, businesses change and markets will have to adapt, but a true and fair system is worth all the GDP in the world (especially if its not locked up in digital numbers, off shore somewhere remote, by the very few)!

My thoughts are in areas… Voting and Control.

If the internet was used as a 24/7 sculpting tool for government.
Each person is issued a user ID and login.. From hear they login to a gov. website and start voting…
Not for your favourite cheese smiler (like we do now), but on each and every-single voting decision normally undertaken by the politicians.

Real time votes coming in - like an ebay auction, up comes an issue and you have XXX days to vote on it. And like Reddit you can dive into all sorts of interests and sub interests to vote on.
If you are not knowledgeable about a topic then you will most probably pass and concentrate on things that you know about or are directly affected by.

The source code for the site would of course have to be open source and written “by the people for the people”.
All gov. employees will be monitored 24/7 when at work (web cameras in offices, and police head-cams, available for anyone to login to and view) - all data from meetings & investigations to be available in the most convenient formats to view, process, search and archive.

If people need or want more information on something they can vote to start an enquiry into something or commission a scientific paper regarding the subject (budgets for these topics could also be voted on).

There would have to be news areas of the site to keep people informed as to what’s coming up for voting and when.

The roll of people in gov. would be to present the options e.g. summing up of costs, implications and options for each vote topic.

1 person 1 vote (per topic).
I accept there will be initial spam voting, but expect it to be swamped out by real votes very early on.
Yes it would still be possible to “buy” peoples votes - but at lest they make the money and not the politician!
Internet must be provided by the state free - no one can be excluded whatever the reason.

>>18848
I would like to stipulate that these things be provided by the state without profit & with preference to all other operations. This will not be allowed to be voted on for change as this should (with edits and discussion) constitutes basic human rights in a modern civilization.

1) Clean water supply.
2) Sewage treatment.
3) Internet access and communications (phone/3G).
4) Energy supply as this is a resource for all and not for the profit of the few.
5) Advanced Health Care.
6) Transportation, Roads & infrastructure.
7) The right for YOU to build YOUR own home on YOUR own land.
8) Money issued by Gov. not by privet banks.

The operation and details of these utilities and services should be controlled by the voting system and have their own dedicated sections, but their existence will not be erasable.

I leave defence off the list as 1) I ain’t lookin’ for ruck… and 2) With current fast turn around modern manufacturing the need for defence can be met in real time. Technology is moving so fast having a standing anything is pointless, by the time its used it will be out of date. Obviously the level of defence can be up for the vote, as too the way we do it.

No voting for a leader - no leader…

>>18849

THIS IS NOT COMMUNISM!

I think centralization is ok - it gives great beinifits of scale - especialy with water and power etc.

But currently the running of centralized systems always falls into corruption… the proposed continuous monitoring and voting system would hopfully enable the containment, control and riddence of corruption.

We are centralizing the resorces but distributing the control/power. That is the big diffrence in this propsal. We get the best of both, efficiancy centralization and economy of scale but without corruption.

I belive there could be a way of implementing all types of realtime graphs and information presentation for the voter.
Like a reddit setup where you can delve into and select the areas you want to be voting on or looking at, but leave the things you have no concern with.
So if e.g. one votes for a 1% IRS you see the total amount raised by that % and then you see next to it the total budget required to operate… so as you reduce the IRS % you will see money come out of services - you can also vote to what services take what prioerty and budget %.

There will be "noise" initialy but I expect that to settle relativly soon, as people become genuinly involved in the running of society. It's not like Rome was built in a day! This could expand over all areas of gov. - and like a wiki all specilist areas will develope and come together to form somthing grater than the sum of the parts!

Think Sim City on steroids with amazing realtime data visulization a news feed and an asociated Wiki to keep people informed and share information.

By having a computer voting system you will always get a true outcome (bar a few ties, that can be rerun)… This system will not hold stalemate. If a small sample demo was constructed then you would not need a person to stand up and be leader - hopefully it will speak for its self… kinda like most good tech does - it sells itself, just his everyone with - oh wow, yeh thats the way forwards….

Because this is an idea that is essentualy open soruce software based it is an idea that can be experimented with and tested before implementaion so as to ensure its workings would cover all the right aspects of gov. and produce usable results.
No other political system can be proofed or tested so flexibly without consequence.

>>18850
> last thoughts…

Money must be crypto (not falsely controlled).

The applications must be FOSS.
The databases distributed.
The voting encrypted and anon & TOTALY secure!

My initial thoughts are like a combo of TOX and dark-coin.

keeping things encrypted and distributed using Bit-torrent types tech.
Using Dark-coin type tech to make sure 1 vote per topic per person. Along the lines of coins are issued and then spent - although Anon still can only be 1 per voting topic per person - ensured by crypto coin type security.

Votes are non transferable and it is a use it or loose it basis (this stops vote hoarding to get disproportional say in a specific topic, it also stops those who are ambivalent to the political system hoarding and then selling their votes!) Every person can vote once on every topic - votes can be changed until the last sec.

EVERYTHING is up for debate - This is just an idea to be put out for those who may be interested and capable of making this a reality!

Myself - 0 programming skills!

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