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ID: 95ff36 No.18079

What are your thoughts on SHTF type situations? Do you have any plans set in place? The basic things you can do is IMO is this

>get healthy

This should be your priority. Lasik, dental work, vaccinations, necessary surgeries if possible etc. You won't have time to deal with this soykaf when SHTF. At that point, it's do or die and you don't want to be dealing with things such as dental pain.

>get fit not /fit/


Progressive callisthenics and running(maybe even swimming)

With weights you open yourself up to injury if you don't have the proper guidance and that's something you don't want. Plus the absolutely last thing you want is to be dependant on heavy equipment.

2 books that are widely rec'd are Ross Enemait's Never Gymless and Convict Conditioning.

>be good with the law


Get your passport, have citations cleared, and dnebts paid off so that if push comes to shove you can have a shot at leaving without someone looking for you. Make sure your ID's etc are within date and never close to expiration.

If it's possible/necessary get a gun license/conceal carry even if you never plan on using it.

>skills for the grills


Acquire a skill like welding, electronics, first aid, something that can be useful IRL and that you can spend time learning but otherwise wouldn't normally.

This obviously excludes soykaf like anime, japanese, pretty much any language learning, pottery(although not really) etc. I'm on the fence about something like programming though.

Stuff like knowing about guns and basic car mechanics is a given though. That you should definitely know how to do.

>get tooled up


This involves having some spare cash(I say about $1000 or whatever is a decent chunk of change that you normally wouldn't carry on your person), a bit of silver(not gold though too expensive), and at least 1 gun. If you can afford/access it that is.

Specifically for guns look for what’s common in your country in terms of caliber and weapons types and go with that, nothing exotic. for example i'm in the US so anything that shoots 9mm is perfect and for rifles the ar-15 is ubiquitous.

Don't go crazy with the guaze, radios, flares etc. btw. I think things that serve 1 or 2 very well defiined purposes works best.

This should take care about the general stuff although I'm sure there are tons of small details I have not covered. Specifically what to do in terms of technical knowledge. I know we have pdf's and ebooks but physical books would be much better.
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ID: a28a38 No.18080

what is SHTF?
what hypothetical scenario are you planning for?
this is weird. like you're taking various paranoias and creating specific actions to respond to an abstracted set of circumstances. Not sure how to describe it except doomsday fetishism.

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ID: 7797ca No.18081

>>18080
soykaf hits the fan, maybe?

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ID: bc0ff7 No.18082

pretty reasonable OP.
I'd say friends. Don't be alone when SHTF
-make you think better
-complement your skills
-help you with tasks too big for a single guy
-make life less miserable

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ID: 95ff36 No.18083

>>18080
>what is SHTF?
it's soykaf hits the fan.


>what hypothetical scenario are you planning for?

a general catch all scenario with the basics. hurricane, tsunamis, social upheaval, etc. what, you think your cyberpunk society is going to never have bumps along the way?

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ID: 38d00d No.18086

>Convict conditioning
Read the sticky.

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ID: fb0d51 No.18087

i've got a gun inside a glass case labeled 'break in case of peak oil' so i'm ready for anything

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ID: c3898c No.18095

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What about blacksmithing? I imagine there'd be plenty of scrap metal when SHTF.

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ID: cebdfa No.18098

You need to know how to stalk, trap, bait, kill, skin and preserve and animal. You should be able to skin a deer in about 30 minutes and have it relatively well dressed in an hour. YOu should be able to pluck and debreast a mourning dove in roughly 20 seconds, and about 5 minutes for a duck or goose. You need to know how to filet a fish, and which fruits, berries and nut are edible. You need to be willing and able to eat squirrel, rabbit, snake, raccoon and possum. You need to know how to make a fire, a know what wood to and not to collect, you should know that if you find bamboo in the woods, you're in luck, cause that shit's awesome.

You should probably know how to make muscadine whine, a trout line, and any roast taste fine. To drive and repair an ATV or other smaller off-road vehicle.

You need to be able to talk to the opposite sex, and well as other people who have different opinions of the world than you without making conflict or anyone uncomfortable.

>>18082
But I think this is the most important. Don't be alone. Have a group of friends as competent as you. And maybe a dog.

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ID: 95ff36 No.18099

>>18098
>le going into the woods and killing your food meme

yeah, that aint happening. wild life is severely depopulated. it's game over(pun intended)

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ID: cebdfa No.18100

>>18099
Not in the American southeast. White tailed deer, mourning dove and squirrel are all at records highs. Global warming is causing us to start to get Argentina levels of mourning dove population, and people are migrating more and more to cities so you're seeing more abandoned land in rural areas. Especially since now massive farms don't employ but like 20 people.

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ID: a86e59 No.18101

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I've found that the best bug out bag consists of 2 items.

Passport
Plane Ticket

When you actually talk to people who have lived through horrible, horrible, SHTF style situations, these are the two items that they wish they'd had. With these two items, the WROL doesn't exist, or at least, not for long. Whatever problems are going on, these two items can turn it into a minor "tut-tut" from in front of a television, or laptop screen.

Seriously, when I actually had to use my Bug Out crap, the first thing I did was turn all of my retarded combat gear into money, which I then used to buy the soykaf that I actually needed.

Don't plan for the global apocalypse, plan for the personal apocalypse. 9 times out of 10, the problem isn't that the world has gone to shit, the problem is YOU.

>>18100
If you prep for woodlands only, you will become a woodsman. It's all well and good if you can carve out something resembling an existence from snared rabbits and shot-up deer, but when you have to go to the town to refill your benadryl or paracetamol supplies, pretty much everyone is just going to say something along the lines of, "best move on now, homeless".
They'd be dicks, but they'd be right. Bugging Out is just a more comforting way of saying, "Becoming Homeless". Even if you're the raddest homeless guy on the block, you're still homeless.

Don't just have a bug-out bag, have a bug-out plan, preferably multiple plans, most of which assume that society will still be around, and trespassing laws can't be resolved by waving a handgun in somebody's face.

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ID: cebdfa No.18102

>>18101
That's not really how it works in rural communities, though. You can buy acres of land for under 1000$, and can build a house and live off of that land pretty easily. I mean I grew up on a about a 200 acre ranch and we virtually never bought anything other than bread and bathroom products and the like.

Living in a manner where you harvest your food =/= being homeless and some kind of primitive.

Owning your own land, and knowing that land intimately and knowing how to use that land is a very important part of an SHTF plan.

If you live in a big city, and SHTF/Bug out bag plan is just a fantasy, you've already given up on self sufficiency and safety.

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ID: a86e59 No.18103

>>18102

Most of the people who are doing the "bug-out" thing are planning like they have land to live off of, but they actually don't. If you have that, great for you. But most people don't. Of course, the entire "bug out" concept revolves around actually leaving your home. So you wouldn't have those acres, anymore. But I get what you're saying. If you have land, you should know how to work it, and how to make it work for you, in the context of the village that you will inevitably need to attach yourself to, at some point.

Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that you have to tailor the plans, for what you actually have. When I had to use my bug-out bag, my plan should have been centered around getting enough money to get into a house. I revised my plans quickly, but at the time of my "bug-out", the actual, physical prep, was essentially centered around being homeless more comfortably. I knew, cognitively, that this was not the best prep in the world, but I didn't really revise it, at all.
My revised plan, essentially centered around selling my guns, gear, games, and car, in that order, and then taking my VA payments, and fuarrrking right off to Eastern Europe. It actually worked really well in the end, but I don't think I used much of what was in my "bug-out bag", and I sure as soykaf didn't use the guns.

Some people's preps are centered around becoming brigands, with an AR-15, a USP, a camo tarp-tent, a shitload of ammo, Plate/Carrier, and the necessary MOLLE pouches. I'd hate to see what happens when they end up having a 'personal apocalypse'.

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ID: 4575ba No.18104


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ID: 43f782 No.18110

>>18083
it's just that SHTF and "the happening" strike me as silly /pol/ memes and I know being prepared for disaster is pretty important in a dangerous society (okay, if you can afford a plane ticket and have anything resembling family abroad you're pretty much set) but the whole thing feels weirdly fake and political.
I think >>18101 has the right idea with "plan for the personal apocalypse", problems are much more subjective and I don't think general advice for if we were suddenly in fallout would be actually helpful except as an intellectual exercise.

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ID: 0ffca3 No.18111

>>18110
> I don't think general advice for if we were suddenly in fallout would be actually helpful except as an intellectual exercise.

this entire website is an intellectual exercise.

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ID: 0ffca3 No.18112

>>18101
>Passport
>Plane Ticket
>When you actually talk to people who have lived through horrible, horrible, SHTF style situations, these are the two items that they wish they'd had.

While I agree I think that before you get to that point you have to secure yourself at home first. The point about people focusing too much on the little things is incredibly frustrating. Especially when you see these shows about preppers spending untold thousands on frivolous things. It's just another facet of consumerism masquerading itself as survivalism.

But back to the topic of securing yourself, what's the point of getting a plane ticket if you have a parking ticket or violation preventing you from leaving or even getting the actual passport(which it probably won't but the point still stands).

And what after you get to another country? You want to be ready to hit the ground running. You should definitely be in a healthy condition and reasonably well armed in the brains department or else you'll be taken advantage of.

I still think it show go like this:

-health
-be good with the law as best you can
-get your paperwork in order(passport, etc)

after that it's your call.

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ID: 5fae93 No.18155

>>18101
whats the image from?

and what bug out situation did you go through?

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ID: 168478 No.18626

>>18155
a project called innawoods.net. the guy doesn't develop it anymore



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