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kalyx ###### 2015-09-29 02:06:02 ID: f051f7 No.15041

Is anyone interested in renting out a very cheap warehouse in kansas city with me? The city is exploding with tech-related stuff/jobs. We would have the fastest fiber internet ever.

zero 2015-09-29 02:28:19 ID: 63e0e6 No.15046

l0ft lainchan edition?

Sadly I live in another country.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 02:37:34 ID: 938246 No.15047

How much per month?

kalyx ###### 2015-09-29 02:39:08 ID: f051f7 No.15048

250 + internet

Anonymous 2015-09-29 02:47:45 ID: 30e783 No.15049

What you planning on doing with it?

Anonymous 2015-09-29 03:05:00 ID: 9590f0 No.15053

That would be the most schway place to live. I'll hit you up if my life plans change. I could easily see myself living in a converted warehouse.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 03:34:53 ID: 660a10 No.15054

In fall of 2016 I'd be down but for now lolno

Anonymous 2015-09-29 05:28:37 ID: b5feda No.15065

>>15041
i would love to Kaylx, but i'm moving north next month for college

Anonymous 2015-09-29 14:38:48 ID: 65d215 No.15080

>>15041
Yes. Not even kidding. I am sick of Boulder, sick of routine, sick of not doing what I want to do. Would you like to email me? Nate@bit-fusion.org

Anonymous 2015-09-29 14:41:15 ID: bbc863 No.15081

I would if I get into a college in Kansas. Unfortunately I'm probably gonna go more west.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 16:47:46 ID: a6531b No.15087

I would be interested, to bad I live in Norway and do not plan on moving to the states.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 18:06:48 ID: 1148ab No.15090

>>15041
What do you want all the space for?

Anonymous 2015-09-29 18:53:26 ID: 3a442c No.15092

What's the law on living in industrial / commercial space in the US (in particular where you're planning [zoning laws and what not])? In the UK it's not allowed and if you're caught doing it you'll find yourself evicted. Not to mention business rates are massive compared to residential tenancy rates. Also all the insurance problems if something goes wrong. Landlords and councils don't like it.

To get around it, you need to find a landlord or council that will look the other way. And for that the landlord is usually a cunt, and the council will want you providing some sort of community service for the local area (there's some bohemian squats and art spaces that have gotten away with it because they provide drop in centres and community events and soykaf .

I know of a car forum that rented out an industrial space for storing vehicles, tools and equipment for members to store and work on their projects. But nobody lives in it.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:10:10 ID: 4fa509 No.15094

>>15092

We don't tell people what they can and can't do with their property, our government however wants us to maintain it and make sure it's safe.
People live on the upper floor of their restaurants here.

The fact that it's against the law to sleep on your own property disgusts me, like that's spiritual oppression right there man. I'm honestly revolted that your countrymen would tolerate such a thing, that's just absolutely vile.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:11:59 ID: b73c43 No.15095

I value my kidneys.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:19:59 ID: 3a442c No.15097

>>15094
>People live on the upper floor of their restaurants here.

People do that in the UK too. But it falls under different zoning. The flat is a residential unit above a commercial property. I've lived in flats above shops myself in the past, despite never working or being associated with the premises below. The owners lived elsewhere and just used the commercial unit below, so rented out the residential unit above.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:20:59 ID: 3a442c No.15098

>>15094
>We don't tell people what they can and can't do with their property

Yes they do.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15461214&postcount=2

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:23:35 ID: 48a757 No.15099

>>15041
I would if it was small and we had plans to do something with it...It looks like its REALY big.

Other than that it seems pointless.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 19:49:14 ID: 4fa509 No.15100

>>15098

Well that's fuarrrk ed, but then again that's California.

I live in Texas, fuarrrk California freakin' weirdies.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 20:06:10 ID: 01fd79 No.15101

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>>15041
Is there a CC I can transfer to? What do I have to do to move to another sate? I live in Virginia atm.

email me: zizuke@tfwno.gf

Anonymous 2015-09-29 20:10:38 ID: 3a442c No.15102

>>15100

It's everywhere. Every state, county and municipality will have their own specific zoning laws. Nearly everywhere doesn't allow it, because of noise, crime, fire safety, standard of living (such as access to water and sanitation). It's less hassle to just rent a flat share. Landlords can get massive fines for renting it out and it ending up lived in.

OP really needs to think it through more, and check up on local laws before deciding to rent a commercial property, if he might then end up being evicted a week later and ending up homeless as a result.

It boils down to finding a place and making sure there's no hidden rates, charges, or any other soykaf associated with renting a commercial space, then claiming you need it for storage or as an "artistic" workspace. Slowly move "living" soykaf in undercover (mattresses will be the biggest giveaway). Deny living in it if asked. And keep a low profile. So no asking strangers on the fuarrrk ing internet if they want to share. Only people you know. And trust to keep it on the down low.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 20:14:57 ID: 3a442c No.15103

>>15102

And keeping it clean. I've been to some squats and the people that reside in them can be a shower of dirty bastards. Seen crusties sleeping on mattresses and bedding I wouldn't even let my dog sleep on. Filthy bastards.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 21:22:48 ID: 62f230 No.15106

>>15041
>literally just got a job, before would have had no obligations

I still might come

Anonymous 2015-09-29 22:11:19 ID: 26ccda No.15108

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>>15102
>>15103
Did a quick search for the zoning laws. I know it's in kansas city but I have to assume its in the business district. Seems like "P" means permitted. I saw somewhere on the way to this page that "-" means not allowed, so that means group living is okay (I guess).

Then again there's a few things up in question:
>What does "group living" imply?
>What does this warehouse categorize under?
>What zoning district is this in (if this is "single-purpose residential building")
and millions of other aspects hidden within this directory:
http://online.encodeplus.com/regs/kansascity-mo/acc/browsedoc.aspx which I found the snapshot's page

It's "home page" is http://online.encodeplus.com/regs/kansascity-mo/acc/

The pic is from http://online.encodeplus.com/regs/kansascity-mo/acc/doc-view.aspx?tocid=002.002.003

Anonymous 2015-09-29 22:27:42 ID: 9248cc No.15111

>>15108
West Bottoms is primarily a business district, yes; it's situated in between the Kansas/Missouri State Lines and rests on the confluence of the Kansas and Missouri Rivers. The area has been getting lots of residential renovations as of late with most to begin leasing out to the public by next year.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 22:38:07 ID: 6355f6 No.15112

I'm afraid of being fuarrrk ed over by the NSA. Seriously.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 22:50:35 ID: 9248cc No.15113

>>15112
what

Anonymous 2015-09-29 22:53:03 ID: 6355f6 No.15114

>>15113
I'm afraid of going to the US, because I fear the NSA doing bad things to me personally.

Anonymous 2015-09-29 23:43:04 ID: 9248cc No.15117

>>15114
Don't be; the Snowden Leaks removed any reason to doubt wherever Five Eyes diverted its gaze. The chances of you getting v& are next to none anyway; this isn't Homan Square.

Anonymous 2015-09-30 01:48:49 ID: 6355f6 No.15119

>>15117
>the Snowden Leaks removed any reason to doubt wherever Five Eyes diverted its gaze.
Not sure what you're saying here.

>The chances of you getting v& are next to none anyway; this isn't Homan Square.
I think I'm a likely target because of how much I dedicate myself to oppose the surveillance state. Maybe I won't get v&, but there's still a lot of things they could do to fuarrrk with my life.

Anonymous 2015-09-30 02:44:16 ID: 81fd10 No.15122

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If I wasn't still an apprentice electrician I'd be heck of on board.

But unfortunately I am and it would be a less than productive move at this point in time.

Good luck to everyone though!

Anonymous 2015-09-30 02:51:41 ID: 01fd79 No.15123

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>>15041
We could all just save up for a truck and live in it Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous 2015-09-30 02:52:22 ID: 01fd79 No.15124

>>15123
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Anonymous 2015-09-30 02:53:57 ID: 62f230 No.15125

kalyx, is there a more detailed plan? How shitty of a place are we talking? I mean, I've camped for weeks at a time, but in a city you NEED clean running water, a kitchen of some kind, etc.

Anonymous 2015-09-30 05:35:05 ID: 9b3f60 No.15139

How hard is it to get a travel visa coming from Canada?
I'd totally make 4-6 month trips down there once I get this cash situation settled

Anonymous 2015-09-30 06:40:21 ID: 82d1b3 No.15140

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>>15119
>Not sure what you're saying here.
I'm saying your reasons for not coming here are moot (other than financial issues and maybe because of the fact you just don't want to which is okay). If they're monitoring your every presence the moment you set foot onto American soil then you can damn-well be sure that they were already doing that wherever you lived previously.
>but there's still a lot of things they could do to fuarrrk with my life.
This is Kansas City we're talking about; the city whose council hasn't appointed ANY technologists to work on their "Smart City" contracts in which they intend to install surveillance infrastructure throughout the downtown area. This is a city that has no idea what they're doing when it comes to dealing with the large influx of tech-savvy people in recent years and it's amazing.

Anonymous 2015-10-05 08:35:30 ID: f051f7 No.15401

bump

Anonymous 2015-10-05 09:21:23 ID: 908ca7 No.15407

>>15041
I'm west coast so sadly no. However if you really wanna set this soykaf up your probably wanna create a legit business so when you go to rent you are just some cyb weeb asking for a building. Use part of the warehouse as a store for cheap soykaf that'll break even. Sell lainzines as some uber hacker manual or just sell HDMI cables or upmarket pcs/macs to illiterate college kids. I know there's a market for putting capture cards on 3ds/ds system for livestreamers/youtubers

Anonymous 2015-10-05 09:28:30 ID: bae5a8 No.15408

I kind of hope this works out. It could be like the lainchan mecca.

Anonymous 2015-10-06 03:03:21 ID: 55b736 No.15437

I'm just a state away so I'd be down, but I can't until next fall unfortunately.

Anonymous 2015-10-06 06:43:47 ID: 8e9f9d No.15448

Colocation? Hmmmmmmm?

Anonymous 2015-10-06 06:51:40 ID: 049826 No.15449

MN here, I'd be down but I'm waiting to hear back from a college I'm trying to get into
If that falls through I'm in a position to leave everything and go but I have no work experience

Anonymous 2015-10-06 22:35:35 ID: ae890a No.15479

I'm on a contract until 12/20. If this is alive then fuarrrk it, I have nothing else going on.

Anonymous 2015-10-07 01:15:15 ID: 12d3b7 No.15482

>>15114
I know that feel.
>>15140
Which is really just more paranoia fuel. They'd still have an easier time doing some stuff on home-field.

---
The paranoia and the foreign country are what makes this a non-option for me. Wish the best for the folks who do it though, it sounds interesting.

Anonymous 2015-10-07 18:35:58 ID: ae890a No.15507

Bumping for updates?

I'd crowdfund this even if I didn't live there, especially if I could crash if I needed to.

Anonymous 2015-10-08 19:10:49 ID: 60183a No.15565

give me like...6 months, i'd move out there for this

Anonymous 2015-10-08 20:43:51 ID: f051f7 No.15568

>>15507
email him

Anonymous 2015-10-10 16:19:43 ID: 100a70 No.15632

>>15041
Honestly I would love to. I'm not really in the financial position to move somewhere else right now, though.

Anonymous 2015-10-10 16:22:00 ID: 100a70 No.15633

>>15125
Yeah, this is one of my concerns. There'd be a lot of installation work that I'm not sure kalyx is thinking about

Anonymous 2015-10-10 17:33:18 ID: c6b796 No.15637

What are your plans for the warehouse? Maybe you could have some sort of production there in order to combat rent costs. Would this be some sort of Lain equivalent of Andy Warhol's The Factory?

Anonymous 2015-10-10 23:24:45 ID: d40543 No.15646

>>15637
We can use part of it to host avant garde art exhibitions, like the Glasgow School or Camera Work. Charge X amount of dollars to let artists have their work in the gallery.

Anonymous 2015-10-11 04:23:24 ID: 7c8b0e No.15651

>>15637
do like this guy
http://www.hoektronics.com/2013/01/05/meet-a-shenzhen-maker-mr-chen/
man I wish I could do that

Anonymous 2015-10-11 05:12:27 ID: 9dc368 No.15652

>>15114
Remember you have to give your fingerprints, just to leave the airport, as a... welcoming gesture :)

Anonymous 2015-10-11 05:25:35 ID: a57ef3 No.15654

Make sure you update us if some people get it, and tell us what you end up doing with it!
If it's not a secret, of course...

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-12 04:56:56 ID: e2cad1 No.15684

>>15507
>>15637
Gonna see about scheduling a viewing sometime this week; I told the guy I was interested in setting up a hackerspace and he seemed pretty chill about it.

It's on the third and fourth floor of an old warehouse building; above a postcard startup (lol).

It's commercial space only so the only way we could probably get away with living there even infrequently is by doing temporary residences for members like any other hackerspace can do.

>>15646
West Bottoms has a couple art galleries already I think; it and North KC are where all the artists went after the Crossroads District got gentrified.

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-12 05:04:04 ID: e2cad1 No.15687

>>15507
I haven't talked to anyone about this locally other than with Kalyx himself so were we to sign a lease I fear it'd just be the two of us for a while.

If you guys really wanna help pay for something that could crash and burn before summer next year then I'm game.

Anonymous 2015-10-12 06:12:29 ID: 129b59 No.15688

>>15041
Shit, I'm in Oklahoma and looking for a place. How long are you leaving the offer open?

Anonymous 2015-10-12 15:00:58 ID: bb71f5 No.15726

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>>15688
Same, I'm interested in this idea.

Anonymous 2015-10-12 15:32:37 ID: e6ef56 No.15729

>>15041
unless you got proper permits to live there, it not a good idea. check local laws before going through with this, they can be tricky. I'd easily move there, but considering:
1. its in downtown (pollution)
2. local laws
it would be difficult.

make it the headquarters and I'd at least visit for sure

Anonymous 2015-10-17 20:53:03 ID: ed3278 No.16342

I would be down. If there are still in a year.

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-22 05:29:06 ID: 25ae4b No.16672

>>15684
>>15687
Update: guy couldn't do it last week; heading out there later today w/ kalyx. Will try and come back with pics.

Also I checked Kansas City's zoning map; the building with which the two floors are located in is meant for heavy duty manufacturing like most of the warehouses in the area. Residential development of any kind is prohibited in this zone type. We'd have to apply for a use variance in order to live there but that could be tough since we wouldn't be the only ones inhabiting the given space. I'll look into it more.

Anonymous 2015-10-22 21:51:35 ID: f530de No.16692

Fuck, I wish I could but I'm all the way on the West Coast and am not going to be uprooting my life anytime soon to do something like this. It'd be better if I could just organize something like this here and we could start a federation of live-in cyberpunk hackerspaces, but everything is so insanely expensive in California. I'd probably have better luck in Oregon.

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-22 23:15:51 ID: bf5307 No.16699

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Aight.

Here's outside and down the street.

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-22 23:23:48 ID: bf5307 No.16700

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>>16699
Third floor got leased out; fourth floor is still up for grabs. Here's what you'd see upon entering through the stairwell and the north side.

They're renovating the flooring and are still installing electricity; the area isn't wired for fiber and the only ISP currently available is AT&T. The $250 mark was only a placeholder for sections from pillar to pillar; some could be cheaper others not so much. Leasing out the whole floor for a year would cost roughly $1000 with all basic utilities paid (iirc); only utilities available on the fourth floor are forced air and electricity so.. yeah. If we had ten people we could probably split it at $100/mo per person but its abysmal internet options makes it a no go for a hackerspace let alone a co-working space.

Anonymous 2015-10-22 23:27:49 ID: 7c8b0e No.16701

>>16672
>We'd have to apply for a use variance in order to live there
alternate plan: get a boombox and play "sounds of heavy industrial equipment: volume 3" at full blast all day

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-22 23:39:01 ID: bf5307 No.16702

>>16700
*would cost roughly $1000/mo

Anonymous 2015-10-22 23:55:49 ID: ac9140 No.16705

>>16700
If the internet situation could be sorted out, I could pitch in $200-$300/mo. That is hundreds cheaper than Boulder.

Anonymous 2015-10-22 23:56:26 ID: abcfb8 No.16706

>>16700
That's shitty about the internet,
I was really hoping this could take off.

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-23 00:49:49 ID: 61aab8 No.16708

>>16705
That'd be great!
>>16706
Just talked with the guy; says he can get fiber installed within 3-9 months. I'll probably badger him about it. We could make a deposit and hold it until Dec 1 and sort things out on our end; I just don't want to waste all yalls money.

Would anybody still be interested?

Anonymous 2015-10-23 01:04:41 ID: ac9140 No.16709

>>16708
Yeah, I would be interested. I hang out on the IRC under the username qzo. It would be interesting to see how many people would be down. Do you want to start a Tox group or something?

nildicit!!PPS3DE1QfU 2015-10-24 00:15:52 ID: 488b84 No.16758

>>16709
D5CD19DB6A823E44066172E7AD747BC41367668AB6DFB672715B5FCBBCCE2716E93BE63EF5EB

or you could drop by ##cyberia on freenode

Lupus 2015-10-24 01:14:48 ID: 1d6821 No.16759

If I had not just got a perminate jop for the first time in 5 or so years, I would. but money takes presidence. also,there are probaly old nuke silos that could be purchased for cheaper and whats more cyb than that?

Anonymous 2015-10-24 04:36:19 ID: b07ae9 No.17118

id so be into this if I didnt live on west coast, heading off to college next year. unfortunately heading off to college on west coast still, not quite ready to move more than a state away.