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ID: d67558 No.14282[View All]

"4chan is now owned and led by Hiroyuki Nishimura, the founder of the largest anonymous BBS in Japan, 2channel. Read the full announcement on the 4chan News page."

whoa cool-

"Hiroyuki is a scumbug who works closely with data miners
http://pastebin.com/CJPHJSmC"

oh.

anyone know more about this? picture unrelated.
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ID: 272e98 No.14472

>>14471
You are describing black mail, not a bribe. I think it's clever and not so bad. People were BEGGING to be able to donate.

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ID: c684f4 No.14473

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>>14282
>Hiroyuki was caught exploiting users and selling data to companies and the Japanese government while Jim Watkins (supposedly unaware of this whole thing) ran 2channel
>fast forward a couple of years
>8chan gets a massive flood of Gamergate traffic
>Jim Watkins becomes a business associate of Hotwheels and lends him servers and protection for ad revenue
>Hiroyuki has been staying friendly with moot (even while Hiro was still mining user data)
>8chan is DDOSed into the ground at the peak of Gamergate
>Jim Watkins takes 8chan off of Hotwheels' hands to relieve him of stress without making the deal public
>moot resigns around this same time
>Hiroyuki suddenly takes over as 4chan's owner
>two close business partners who data mined the soykaf out of Name/Pass/IP/CC in Japan now own the two top forumboards in the United States
>two websites made popular by user anonymity, decisive individual power, and freedom of speech
I sure hope all of you own guns and keep your OpSec tight, because the oppressive digital police state might be closer than we think.

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ID: 3904f7 No.14474

>>14374
>What are your guys opinions on Jim Watkins and N.T. Technologies?
He's doing the same thing that Hiroyuki did to 2ch, it's kind of ironic that 2 people who were/are in charge of the biggest Japanese imageboard are now in charge of the 2 biggest English speaking imageboards. It's also funny that a serious company is actually running an imageboard.

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ID: 077523 No.14476

>>14474

That was what I was thinking. It's just too weird of a coincidence. I really can't trust the guy. Not like you can really trust anyone online in the first place.

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ID: c86633 No.14479

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>>14464
>captchas around '10 or '11
I could be wrong, but I started browsing 4chan in '09, and I don't remember a time without captchas, except for /f/, which didn't get captcha until maybe '13.

>ulterior motive was so moot could start issuing passes

This is just pure bull soykaf . captcha had been around a good while before the pass was introduced, and the pass was anon's idea, not moot's. If moot was really a greedy jew, why did he decline random donations for so long?

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ID: c86633 No.14480

>>14464
>>14479
Forgot to mention:
>Passes mean having your credit card number and other personal information compromised

They take bitcoin. If you're concerned about security, use that.

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ID: 209d56 No.14481

Lainchan doesn't do the same soykaf 8ch and 4chan have now been known to do? Right?

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ID: 2dc1cb No.14484

>>14282
Well 4chan had to end at some point anyway. If soykaf does hit the fan I'll just be glad that I was able to experience the site before it became officially kill. Though I always hoped it would end silently with me typing the address in as usual and having a little 404 pop up.

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ID: 66ff0e No.14485

>>14454
2ch is pretty much 4chan but Japanese. They don't like foreigners and anyone who posts in english gets derezzed . they also block you from posting if you don't live in Japan(maybe korea is allowed?).
politically, they pretty much match /pol/ with their ridiculous nationalistic opinions. some japanese seems to forget sometimes the lessons learned from WW2. 2ch overall has it's cancerous boards, but it's not the worst site. this guy who bought 4chan is screwed because 4chan always gets itself into legal trouble one way or another.

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ID: dea19a No.14486

>>14479
I have a feeling that guy wasn't on 4chan for as long as he claims.

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ID: 2dc1cb No.14487

>>14485
>this guy who bought 4chan is screwed because 4chan always gets itself into legal trouble one way or another.

He also borrowed money to buy the site and has a history of not paying court mandated fees in Japan. If he gets into legal trouble with the US he's fuarrrk ed because they don't screw around with that kind of stuff.

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ID: ea8bef No.14508

>>14486
>>14479
That anon was correct, here's a blogpost that says it was 2010 that moot added in captcha.

https://fullphaser1.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/4chans-captcha/

Before then you didn't have to fill out captchas at all, and there was spam aplenty back then. Mods were also way more lax than they are now, where they'll ban for racism and hotlinking to sites they hate, like 8chan.

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ID: 1e5405 No.14512

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>>14508
>like 8chan.

post this on /v/ if you want a week long ban

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ID: 272e98 No.14518

>>14512
See, I don't get it. Lainchan never did this kind of spam soykaf . Yet they hate us and ban our official ads.

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ID: 73020b No.14519

>>14458
Sure 8ch gives you lots of freedom, but be honest, no one actually likes the drama that came from/come from inter-board raids and general spamming. The kind of moderation here is just a common sense type of feel, don't be rude and loud, not because you'll get derezzed for it, but because you're in a quiet place. As soon as you start getting really specific and looking for loopholes in rules, no one has any fun. The people on 8ch have the "free speech" card to play whenever moderation like this is enforced, which we don't have. This overall makes for a relaxing community where you can just discuss things without getting furious over nothing. I have no interest in cyber, anime, or programming, but I keep coming back to this site just for /r/.

>>14512
On 8chan, anyone can come butcher the moderation job, but on 4chan they have a select group who specialize in doing a terrible job. Same difference really, one chan is apathetic and one is paranoid.

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ID: 92eecc No.14521

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>>14473
tl;dr:

4chan and 8chan confirmed to be honeypots

I bet MJ12 did this. Thank god I never really used 4chan, only posted twice on /d/ back in 2013.

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ID: ea8bef No.14522

>>14473
Jim Watkins never data-mined, stop spreading this disinfo please.

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ID: 4590a5 No.14527

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>>14522
>stop spreading this disinfo please.
But that's all any of this is at this point.
Nobody should be talking about it at all.
It's a bunch of useless speculation.

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ID: f778c8 No.14538

>>14446
>Lockpicking, history of Usenet/forums

PLEASE do write ups on those I'm an editor and have been wanting those. for lockpicking theres a interesting practice method in the short film "The Salivation Army"

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ID: c684f4 No.14539

>>14522
I never said that he did, anon. I said that Hiroyuki was still data mining through 2chan after he'd given up control to Jim Watkins.
Jim Watkins, of course, was completely unaware that Hiroyuki was receiving sums of money from governments and individuals alike for censoring 2chan while actively ignoring posts complaining about deletion.
>>14527
Where's the speculation, anon?
4chan is now owned by a Japanese man with a history of scamming forumboards. 8chan is now owned by a company that's owned by a close business partner of that Japanese man.

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ID: ea8bef No.14541

So 8chan is now Duckduckgo-tier in terms of security/privacy, eh? Why is it that all the big chans get compromised?

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ID: 077523 No.14542

>>14446
Please do a piece on lockpicking!!!

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ID: 4590a5 No.14544

>>14539
>Where's the speculation, anon?
It's generally a good idea to read a thread before you post in it.
And even better to not be the type of person to believe something just because it was written on the internet.

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ID: 4590a5 No.14545

>>14539
> 8chan is now owned by a company that's owned by a close business partner of that Japanese man.
And that's *was* a business partner, if you can call it that.
Jesus, you don't even know what happened and you're jumping to all sorts of conclusions.

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ID: 4590a5 No.14546

>>14541
Maybe refrain from entrusting your personal data to third parties when you're unsure of what they collect.
Imageboards and websites in general aren't secure places to put sensitive information.
So don't give it to them.

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ID: dea19a No.14549

>>14541
>Duckduckgo-tier in terms of security/privacy
Did something happen to DDG aside from the fact they're US based?

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ID: 48ca96 No.14555

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He seems like a relatively okay guy. Lurked a bit on /qa/ yesterday, and more people seem to like him than dislike him. Let's just hope he lives up to his claims of not selling off user data

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ID: 0fa3ad No.14569

Isn't 8ch also partially owned by 2ch

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ID: 272e98 No.14571

>>14569
the guy who owns 2channel also own 8chan yes.

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ID: eb5116 No.14573

>>14555
>more people seem to like him than dislike him
That's because he's Japanese and they're idiots and all the smart people left. These people would worship a literal turd as long as it had "made in Japan" written on it.

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ID: d67558 No.14574

>>14549
I believe ye olde /g/ has been talking soykaf about duckduckgo for at least a year now but I don't remember why.

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ID: 362d56 No.14575

>>14574
I think the owner of DDG had ties to some analytics company or something.

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ID: ea8bef No.14579

>>14549
The guy running DDG sold user data at his previous business, so he's not really to be trusted.

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ID: 56bc1d No.14596

>>14440
I'm here because someone linked from /qa/, and so far I'm liking the atmosphere (and language enhancers ).

I'll probably still use my homeboard /tg/, because no admin will ever care about /tg/. It's neither as friendly nor as resourceful as it used to be, but it's a much better place to share and converse about my interests than reddit.

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ID: 36baaf No.14613

>>14549

>>14574
there's a writeup on the 8ch sticky about it with sourcing and documentation and stuff. It's basically as
>>14575
says

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ID: dea19a No.14623

>>14613
I can't find anything related to ddg in 8ch /g/

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ID: 85b8f9 No.14626

>>14290
>wannabe right-wing douchebag
Still better than being a pretentious anarchist kiddo.

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ID: 85b8f9 No.14627

>>14573
>projecting this much
Anyway, why is lainchan derezzed from advertising on 4chan? Is the prior to the /g/ thread kalyx made?

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ID: ea8bef No.14628


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ID: ff7866 No.14649

>>14626
No, it's not any better.

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ID: 43614e No.14652

>>14626
not really.

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ID: 49213f No.14670

>>14649
>>14652
He's right. Most of pretentious anarchist kiddo are not even anarchist. They are mostly bourgeois socialist, or any sort of left-wing authoritarian, thinking that they are fighting for liberty.

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ID: d67558 No.14691

>>14626
It depends. I can cut the guy some slack because he works a soykaf job and had an even more soykaf childhood.

STATUS UPDATE: As much as we shake our heads at the chest-pounding anger and tribalism so rampant on 8chan we can at least count on them to pay attention: Google is apparently getting involved in the social media tone policing war - presumably to push for more tight control so users will feel safer and more readily expose their info online.

Remember: A consumer in a comfort zone is a consumer ready for data strip mining, so please keep your thoughtcrimes (privacy concerns) to yourself.

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ID: df9ff4 No.14698

well, that was to be expected :)

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ID: 243bf0 No.15635

>>14282
Thank god I've stopped using chans other than lainchan

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ID: a94133 No.15636

>>15635
Don't think lainchan won't do the same one day. Maybe it already has.

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ID: fbdb58 No.15920

>>14282
Here's a secret: There are more or less nonfat-soykaf drinker s and marketers posting depending on the time.

Sunday and thursday mornings around 10am-3pm GMT time are nice. Weekday mornings aside from monday and friday are okay. Saturdays are subjective by board; you may get lucky or syou might see the same twenty threads reposted.

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ID: cb5b18 No.17357

I kind of like the cuck->kek language enhancer, tbh

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ID: d8c4f9 No.17371

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ID: 9fb16b No.17372

>>14284
>8ch has died
Please elaborate. It seems pretty vital.



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