lit - literature

I found the gettysburg address
http://libraryofbabel.info/book.cgi
What short, copyrighted works can we find in here?

>>1242
I must be missing something.
The lore is simple enough, but I see no way to find anything other than garbled hex. Does it bank off of the infinite typewriter monkeys idea?
Where in what looks to me like obfuscated text are you seeing the Gettysburg Address?

>>1242
>>1243
I should say, page 301 of
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>>1243
He didn't use the bookmark properly. Here's a better link.

http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?tkmmmyljp6969

http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?gig,xsaaf16

Right at home.

I was reading the theory page about the hexagons and it made me think that's the biggest missing part of the library. The hexagons. The rooms themselves. I've not used any, but I think this could be implemented in JanusVR or similar. The way the pages are generated seems like it would lend itself well to the idea.

http://libraryofbabel.info/book.cgi?0-w1-s1-v01:2
0 = Room 0
w1 = Wall 1
s1 = Shelf 1
v01:2 = Page 2 of volume 1

>>1249
>I've not used any, but I think this could be implemented in JanusVR or similar.

That would be neat. Now everyone can experience the desolate horror of the library first hand.

How hard would it be to have a computers scan the library for books that are comprised only of English words?

Also, here's the short story this websites based off of, if you haven't read it yet.

http://hyperdiscordia.crywalt.com/library_of_babel.html

>>1251
or here (sans hyperlinks to footnotes), translated by a gentleman in close collaboration with the author.

http://www.digiovanni.co.uk/borges/the-garden-of-branching-paths/the-library-of-babel.htm

Cool, I've just read the Borge's short story recently.

Also, http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?zg.izrwjrco319

>>1253
>Borge's
Move the apostrophe one character to the right when reading this.

I found a book that indexes all coherent books in the library but Windows updated and I had to reboot and lost it.

>>1254
>>1253
is borges
also im really interested in how the guys made this
programming looks really cool

>>1255
hwo od you find that?
more info plz

>>1260
I was joking, in the story Borges says such book should exist somewhere in the library.

>>1258
Same, it would be neat to have a local copy of the library. That is, a program that can calculate what the content of the nth page would be.

>>1258
>>1261
http://libraryofbabel.info/theory4.html
http://libraryofbabel.info/forum/?topic=searching-across-pages/#post-168

You might just get it at some point. He's looking at making the code public.

>>1260
“On some shelf in some hexagon, it was argued, there must exist a book that is the cipher and perfect compendium of all other books, and some librarian must have examined that book; this librarian is analogous to a god.”

I was being silly and wrote this
http://pad.fnordig.de/p/thoughts_on_library_of_babel
feel free to add on

I'm trying to code a virtual library, but Borges' story says the books are written using only twenty-two letters. The librarian who wrote what he knows about the library tells about two books he found, one that reads "MCV" periodically from the first to the last line, and one that reads "Oh tiempo tus pirámides" in the second-to-last page. This shows that there are lower and uppercase letters as well as acuted letters. Moreso, there are three different letters in the first example and eleven more in the second one; adding the uppercases and the five letters that can have acutes in spanish we get thirty-three different characters.
Two things keep me from making my version fit the spanish language. First, the obvious sadness of having to discern from the original story and my library wouldn't be the one of Babel. Second, the numbers get even more huge for the quantity of hexagons, and I feel really small against such numbers, and unworthy to span them in my humble program. My solitude saddens from that unelegant fear.

>>1275
>the librarians live forever
They don't, they die and the bodies are thrown off the library and eventually disintegrate during the fall. They do have children though, so your point is still valid.
>uber-librarians
The librarians in the lower levels speak old languages and dialects, so they value the books differently.
It would be dystopic if they evolved into a language that maximizes the artificial understanding of randomized books.

oh boy the library of babel

"Each wall of each hexagon holds 32 books of equal size; each book has 410 pages; each page 40 lines; each line approximately 80 letters. The books consist of
all possible combinations of 25 orthographic symbols. Every conceivable book has been written."

"William Goldbloom Bloch computes the number of books in the library
according to this data: 410 pages times 40 lines times 80 symbols equals 1,312,000 symbols in each book. Since there are 25 orthographic symbols, the total number of possible books is: 25^1,312,000! Putting this unfathomable figure in the power of 10 gives us: 10^1,834,097!5 The universe is currently estimated to be 1.5 × 10^26 meters across, and if we filled the entire universe with sand there would be no more than a paltry 10^90 grains, a sum that doesn’t even begin approximating the number of books in the Library. To give a more concrete feeling for the magnitude of the Library, if we walked 60
miles a day for 100 years, we would travel a distance slightly less than what light covers in two minutes. For light to cross the entire universe, which is
minuscule in comparison to the Library, it must travel for at least 15 billion years! Obviously, no less than an immortal librarian would be able to inspect all the Library’s books."

I fuarrrking love Borges

soykaf like this is the reason that I come to this board.

>>1501 here.
I had a new thought after re-reading the story.
Borges' librarian says the thougt of the library being periodical makes him happy.
If after the last book there came the first one again and the library held infinitely many copies of each volume, then my adaptation of the library, if made periodical as well, would have the same quantity of books as the one of Babel. Infinite.
Mine would have more different books than the original but the cardinal of both sets would be the same, Aleph 0.
My solitude heartens from that elegant hope.

This really boggles my noggin in the best, weirdest, and most ephemeral of ways.

If the Library is just a massive collection of !un!written literature, everything conceivable, doesn't that mean that the Internet itself is simply that comprehensive book of everything in the library described in the story with infinite pages, front to back?


So is this Library of Babel the inconceivable middle page that can/can't exist?

>>1605
Let's see if I understood.
The internet gives you access to all written books, so it's like a book that indexes all known literature?

>>1608
Read the final footnote to the Library of Babylon story.

https://libraryofbabel.info/Borges/libraryofbabel.pdf

Is not the internet, and the square in front of you called a "computer screen" a smooth, flat plane? And below that, just before your fingerprints can touch, isn't that raw data? Zeros and ones?

When you give that amalgam mass of zeros and ones folded infinitely in upon one another a name, you call it simply "the internet."

You can go full NEET and spend your whole life on the internet and still never see everything there is to see, and at the rate content is uploaded every day from people just like you, you never could. You can't touch the internet because it truly is everywhere, flying through us, a separate world from our own. I commit tautology.

Essentially, not until human consciousness is successfully uploaded within the machine, effectively granting immortality, can we see what lies at the end of the infinite sprawl.

The question remains, what will you do when you finally see the end? Will you turn back and go the way you came, hoping to capture something you missed? Will you cast yourself into the Abyss, and hope to become a bridge between the zeros and ones like a link between atoms?

>>1605
>thanks to computers, literally every possible book that could ever be written has already been written

Welp, pack it up boys. We can go home now.

The chances of someone actually stumbling upon a fully completed book is so unlikely, isn't it? Isn't this basically trying to brute force books into existence?

Can't this basically be used instead of paste bin for some things?
And if it were created with all characters in mind, couldn't it fully replace it?

>>1754
the indexing system isn't the best - like half a page for every page or something like that.

>>1763
I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate?

If you mean that it's mixed with the garble, click exact match when you search.

>>1249
I thought there were only four rooms per floor, and mirrors have the illusion of infinite non-vertical distance, when it is in fact only infinite vertically?

>>1754
I think so, though if it supported all characters then technically the average url for a page would be longer than the text it refers to. Though if books are arranged in a way related to a compression algorithm, most books written in languages targeted by the compression system would have shorter urls. Either way it'd allow one to essentially use a url shortening service to host a file, though that could be done without attempting to create an infinite library.