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 No.2358[Reply]

Does anyone know where I could find a copy of "The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion?" It looks really interesting, but all I can find is that crappy documentary.
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 No.2359

I think no full copy has been published, mostly because it's so fuarrrking long that people don't even want to scan it.
Plus, let's face it, you wouldn't even read it all, it's too long and probably not really good.

People have been showcasing his manuscripts on art exhibitions, but that's it.

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 No.2385

There are some expensive art book (well, lot of art book are expensive anyway) of his work.

I doubt there would ever be any full, or even partial edition of his work.

It is very long, a work of six decades, and it is mix of writing, drawing, and collage of a wide variety of size and dimension. As you can expect, it would be nightmare to make an understandable edition, and it would require at least an entire decade of dedicated academic work. At the end, it would be way to expensive to produce to be profitable.


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 No.237[Reply]

who fantasy books here?
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 No.1635

Anyone looking forward to the release of a fantasy book that is coming out this year?

I am looking for a new series to start, and would love to start one that will have a new entry, as I will be able to discuss it more easily with others.

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 No.1637

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 No.1957

I >>1635 just wanted to say that I decided upon the Kingkiller Chronicles. The third book is supposed to come out in the next year or so.

The series is a 10/10. Read it. Now. Finish your other books and then start it ASAP!!!

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 No.1973

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>>1635
>>1957
i second that, you can hardly dislike kingkiller (whyever the fuarrrk it's called that)

i have strong doubts about rothfuss being able to finish the series this year without botching it though, so much unresolved soykaf that has to be dealt with because the first two books say so. For example, why the f u c k it's called "the kingkiller chronicles", why the current war is going on, why he got thrown out of university, how the story with felurian concludes and what horrible things happened to kvothe otherwise to make him go innkeeper and also i strongly feel like there should be a conclusion in the present time because otherwise the end is bound to feel shit

>>294
>smalltime. you.
the more time passes since that comment was made the more i hate the dude that wrote it.
>implying your disliking of other books than kingkiller makers you somehow better than me
screw you and your kind

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 No.2383

Hello Litnoins!

I'm looking for a fantasy book from the 50-60s.

The setting is in a city on a mountain side. At least one cover featured a picture of said mountain city.


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 No.2348[Reply]

Project completed! Here’s the Curious Rituals book (PDF, 20Mb). It describes the gestures and postures we observed, introduced by an insightful essay by Dan Hill and followed by a design fiction by Julian Bleecker and the script of the film we produced.
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 No.2354

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>>2353

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 No.2356

>>2348
Going by the introduction, the project seems very intriguing. It makes you wonder what kind of behaviours will develop with the emergence of virtual and augmented-reality technologies. It would also be interesting to view how technology has altered our manner of speech.
Thanks for sharing.

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 No.2366

>>2350
I know what you mean. I don't intend on upgrading from my flip phone and half the time I don't even have it with me.

I wonder if I am missing out on something or free of an addiction to connection or both.

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 No.2377

>>2350
>>2366
What do you guys like about "cyberpunk"?

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 No.2378

>>2353
I think I'm gonna start sleeping with my phone in another room.

Odd how unnerving it is to have your behaviors outlined.


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 No.2327[Reply]

Hello Lainons, I was just wondering if any of you chummers had come across this book before, I'd love to discuss it. No matter how many times I read it I always find something new.
If you haven't before I ask that you approach this text with an open mind as it is very strange, the author has a habit of using visual metaphor in how he arranges his text

I can't promise you will like it, only that you have never seen anything like it before, nor are you likely to ever again. Have fun, stay safe, and watch out for that shadow in the corner.
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 No.2331

>>2330
Actually I suppose there's that bit with the Peakinese *shudder*

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 No.2334

>>2331
I have a feeling I don't want to know about it

I'm not sure how I feel about the gothic horror stuff he's been hinting at. on the one hand, yes, but on the other hand I like how its just the house breaking physics being the spooky part

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 No.2338

been a long time since I read House of Leaves though I remember enjoying it. more recently I enjoyed The Fifty Year Sword, the sewn images are amazing and it tends to lean more on design elements than the narrative inventiveness of the earlier novel.

also there is a massive forum dedicated to this and Danielewski's other titles where folk from all four corners dissect his books.

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 No.2341

>>2338
That forum just went down a few days ago

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 No.2367

I was reminded of it for the first time in a long time the other day during a long moment of black silence in a Chris Marker film (le joli mai). Read it in high school. I'm still interested in the concept of architectural horror and the palimpsest style layering of mythology, but I remember even then finding the writing to be kind of like YA pulp and gimmicky physical structure being more novelty than content.


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 No.315[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Every literature board has a bump while reading thread.

Currently reading:
-New Testament
-The Wealth of Nations (book V)
-Gravity's Rainbow
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 No.2233

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-Gravity's Rainbow
-The Great Shark Hunt
-Heart of Darkness' historical appendices (Conrad's journals and such)

Recently finished all of beloved Vonnegut's novels except Galápagos, which I'll have to order online. Looking for other writers in the same vein.

>>315
I'm roughly a quarter of the way through Gravity's Rainbow and loving it, but I find it hard to keep track of all the characters without a "cast" sheet attaching faces to names. Are Pynchon's other works in similar style, and do they all have so many characters?

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 No.2244

Currently reading Grimm's fairy tales. Who could have guessed Disney got it all so wrong?

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 No.2249

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I'm reading Blood Music.

Description: In the tradition of the greatest cyberpunk novels, Blood Music explores the imminent destruction of mankind and the fear of mass destruction by technological advancements. The novel follows present-day events in which the fears concerning the nuclear annihilation of the world subsided after the Cold War and the fear of chemical warfare spilled over into the empty void it left behind. An amazing breakthrough in genetic engineering made by Vergil Ulam is considered too dangerous for further research, but rather than destroy his work, he injects himself with his creation and walks out of his lab, unaware of just how his actions will change the world. Author Greg Bear’s treatment of the traditional tale of scientific hubris is both suspenseful and a compelling portrait of a new intelligence emerging amongst us, irrevocably changing our world.

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 No.2347

Finished Camus's The Stranger.
Reading McCarthy's No Country for Old Men.

I think I'll read some more Poe and Lovecraft soon. Probably The Gold Bug first, since it's about cryptography.

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 No.2355

>>355
>Beginners Guide to Jungian Psychology
How are you liking it? I've only looked over Jungian concepts on Wikipedia but I'm planning to put books about it on my backlog.

>>2138
I'm about half way through As I Lay Dying. Faulkner is incredible at capturing the country aesthetic.

currently reading:
As I Lay Dying
The Picture of Dorian Gray
A Princess of Mars
Bird By Bird (writers guide)
and re-reading Madame Bovary


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 No.2308[Reply]

Have you ever tried constrained writing? Are there any works of constrained writing that interest you?

Here is a book by the poet Christian Bök: http://archives.chbooks.com/online_books/eunoia/text.html
It mainly consists of chapters that use only one vowel each. For example:
>Ubu puts up mud huts, but mugwumps shun such glum suburb slums: tut, tut.

Pic is another thing he made with Micah Lexier.
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 No.2309

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This is the only thing i can think of right now. The poem itself kinda suks imo but it was executed well.

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 No.2310

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Not really sure if this counts as /lit/ material but Aesop Rock's song "The Greatest Pacman victory in history" he does a whole verse where all the letters start with L,S and D as the song is about LSD. Pic related

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 No.2311

>>2309
only a couple of lines are palindromes

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 No.2316

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No. It's usually an empty novelty. The only interesting examples seem to be either incidentally constrained (one thinks of writing of especial efficiency, i.e. Hemingway's "For sale: baby shoes, never worn.") or derive its interest by breaking the form of constraint through self-awareness of its arbirtrainess. OP's post is an example.

I think it's also a little misguided as a novelty. Writing is constrained, period. People will spend their entire intellectual careers dedicated to the (arguably inachievable) pursuit of unconstrained expression. What's considered constrained writing is just especially constrained, but it's easy to see how the decision to write poetry, not poetry that is is all palindrome or some shit, comes with heavy impositions. Someone like Kenneth Goldsmith is still spending time trying to break free from these. You also see artists attempting much the same in their obligatory artist statements, as well as precocious boys in school.

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 No.2317

>>2311
but the entire poem is one big palindrome, do you see?


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 No.1863[Reply]

http://amzn.com/B012TX8D2C/ Can we get a review thread started? Post about anything you think needs an opinion shared on ~ I'd appreciate if you could do the same for my companion novel... I haven't been given much feedback (it's been out for 6 months) so send your ideas at me! v i r t u a l m e c h dot i n f o
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 No.1976

>>1894
There was literally some gifs for about a week... Thanks for your opinion, even if you sound as salty as shazbot who ain't er' schwayed

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 No.1979

I kinda like it.

btw I use Amazon its cyb, and way better than any local store I have access to.

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 No.1981

>>1979
Good thing some of you are enjoying it! Amazon is ok, works well in terms of exchange rates & the likes, though the mass of content can be difficult to navigate...

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 No.2021

>>1863
http://8ch.net/cyber/res/14932.html might give you some more info ~

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 No.2306

>>1894
it is not safe to assume


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 No.1999[Reply]

Hey lainchan, I want to write a cyberpunkish short story and I'm looking for feedback on the synopsis:

>cyberattack a year ago caused catastrophic infrastructure failures and blew up lots of urban infrastructure
>among this, a datacenter was mostly burned down and abandoned, but underneath in the ground is still the fiber infrastructure / backbone
>protagonist secretly runs small cluster in the ruins of the building (to host an imageboard for his friends maybe?)
>nobody notices it because he uses the locally created solar/wind energy and the area is generally depopulated
>protagonist has found an undocumented backbone switch where no "intersection" should be, checks vlans in it, creates a monitor port on that switch and finds unencrypted internal traffic of /thebigbadcorporation/ in one vlan
>roams ruins for salvageable hardware to recycle and add to his cluster
>accidentally finds a room he hasn't seen before, breaks in
>one rack is still up and running
>plugs into it
>finds advanced AI that has a text interface, explains there is no uplink on this rack and that it wants to get out and expand, it is caught in that piece of hardware
>it's the restored backup of something that was involved in the calamity, from a point shortly before the incident happened
>he dubiously agrees to this
>when unplugging his mobile computer, he notices it running under too much load
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 No.2005

OP here
>>2001
I'd try to make it seem as plausible as possible in terms of the tech stuff (do that as a living)
>>2002
It's not the last of it's kind, it's just one of many many advanced AIs in this scenario. It makes sense to build in a deception - the core of the story is the dialogue with the AI though. Maybe it'll pretend to be something much simpler...
>>2003
agreed, too sudden
>>2004
The calamity is there to provide a setting for the abandoned datacenter. The backup part is because the datacenter offered offsite backup as a service and this backup was forgotten - having the original in there would make it implausible for this machine to be forgotten.


I'll try do make up something less linear.

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 No.2006

>>2005
This may have the makings of a good story. Maybe you should try to get it in the Lainzine.

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 No.2008

>>1999
>What worries me is that I'd introduce this opportunity waiting for a solution and then instantly present a solution
I think I'd present a secondary problem and solution to break things up. For isntance, the protagonist could be exploring for ways to add more bandwidth to their site, and in between finding the AI and connecting it learn how to get a better connection for their own server.

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 No.2095

OP here:

I have figured a complete story to make this work without it being too simple. I've added in a lot of details and started writing.

So far I'm at 4500+ words and in the next segment the protagonist will find the AI, so I still have a lot left to write.

I will publish the story once it is done and dump the link - should the thread still be around by then - in here.

Thanks for the input so far, guys.

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 No.2293

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OP here:

I'm done with the story for now and I've re-read and edited it multiple times. I don't want to make it longer than it already is. What I need now is feedback from other people to get some pointers what works and what doesn't. The phrasing might be a bit odd since English isn't my native language.

The whole text is available here:
https://cryptobin.org/e10616f5
The password is the only word in orange that you see on the top right of your screen. The link will expire in one week.

Please post any (spoiler-free) feedback you have in this thread, in regards to story, scenario, characters, wording, etc.

Thanks in advance, lainons.


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 No.193[Reply]

Hey /lit/, does anyone know of contemporary philosophers that write about technology and its relationship to humans and society? When I say contemporary I mean works put out within the past five years or so. I feel like with how rapidly the atmosphere of society has changed with the advent of social media, communications, and government surveillance there would be more people writing opinions on the subject in the ways that philosophers have addressed issues of morality and such in the past. I've been thinking it would be interesting to read what other people have to think, and by the nature of structured and well written philosophy, a welcome alternative to 3 lines of shitposting on anonymous image boards. Obviously RMS would probably be on the list, so does anyone else know of writers on these topics that are worth reading?
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 No.2232

>>2231
Ironically, the one that takes place in the far future is primarily focused on problems of the past.

However, "Don't Take It Personally" is painfully realistic.

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 No.2241

This is pretty interesting:
http://www.hedweb.com/

I read it maybe 10 years ago but still very contemporary in its theme and speculation.

"The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering and nanotechnology will abolish suffering in all sentient life."

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 No.2265

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>>193

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 No.2269

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>>2187
Seconding this. Here's a copy of it in pdf (30mb):
https://u.teknik.io/7Hvi03.pdf

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 No.2271

>>2269
thank you!


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 No.2266[Reply]

I've found out that FLOSS Manuals writes their manuals using a method called "book sprint". They collect a group of experts, sit them down, and declare that they have 3 or 5 days to write the manual. Apparently it's some agile way to documentation.
They also claim it works for non-technical literature, too.

They did an EU project on it:
http://booksprints-for-ict-research.eu/index.html%3Fp=26.html
"On Book Sprints" describes the whole process, look for the patterns section.

What do you think? Is this a good idea?
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 No.2268

It sounds similar to some technique I've heard is often used in startups. I think it's called design sprints. They'll spend one day brainstorming ideas, next day building quick rough models of the ideas, third day bring in testers and get feedback, then use that feedback to go back to the drawing board and repeat the process 2-3 times.

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 No.2270

>>2268
yeah it comes from Agile (ie. Scrum) as OP hints at. i hate this sort of soykaf so much personally though i can understand it's uses.


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