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 No.937[Last 50 Posts]

Any lains here smoke? Yeah, it's fuarrrking terrible for you, but I've noticed that a lot of people that have similar interests to the ones on this site (programming, hacking, DIY electronics, sci-fi) also happen to be heavy smokers.

What are your favorite brands to smoke? If you roll your own, what are your favorite brands of rolling baccy?

Currently smoking Camel Wides, tried them out a few days ago after a recommendation and I'm loving them, might be my new favorites.
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 No.938

Benson&Hedges. I plan on rolling my own again but id probably waste money since I've cut down to about 2-3 a day

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 No.939

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>>938
Why would rolling your own waste money compared to buying prerolled, even if you do only smoke 2-3 a day? You can buy baccy in bulk and then store it somewhere cool to keep it fresh. I was thinking of eventually switching to RYO myself to cut back on costs, but I just cut back on smoking 4-5 cigs a day instead. Anything I roll would probably be too soykaf to smoke without a problem.

Also, forgot to add this in the OP, but why do you guys think that-
>a lot of people that have similar interests to the ones on this site (programming, hacking, DIY electronics, sci-fi) also happen to be heavy smokers
-this is? Is it just part of cyberpunk culture or what?

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 No.940

>>>/drg/74

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 No.941

>>940
Oh fuarrrk, my bad. I know that tobacco is a drug but I didn't think it'd go on the drug board, I've gotten used to 420chan's /smoke/ being a different board. Stupid mistake, guess I'll move there.

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 No.942

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If you are /cyb/ you are probably addicted to something.

It's the stress, the distraction you need, the drug that gets you through the dry times.

I for one tried hard not to smoke, but I need a cognition booster that gets me wired, while also calm.

For now I'm just a coffee junkie. Drinking good a litre a day. Doubt it's doing anything to me anymore.

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 No.1102

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I smoke herbals. Its great if you just like the activity of smoking. I always get confused because when people ask if i smoke they always mean tobacco and tobacco is one of the very few things i haven't smoked.

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 No.1103

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I smoked for about 10 years off and on but finally quit 3 years ago by weaning off with nicotine gum. Now I'm just a coffee junkie, and feel a lot healthier overall. I used smoking as stress/anxiety relief but in the long run I found it made me more stressed, and tobacco is taxed like crazy so quite expensive here in Canuck land.

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 No.1104

>>1102
so, what are the benefits of smoking herbs over tobacco?

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 No.1105

I used to like unfiltered Camels or Lucky Strikes.

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 No.1107

>>1104
to be honest smoking herbals is just a perspective thing. Tobacco, green tea, cannabis all are just herbs with different effects.

Hell just consider smoking another method of consumption. You can smoke mescaline and it gives you a different experience then if you consumed it

The reason why i cant smoke tobacco is medical. I don't feel i would smoke tobacco regularly if i could though. Its quite hard on the body and coffee is longer lasting and cheaper stimulant.

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 No.1110

>>1107
if my understanding is correct, smoking will damage your lungs no matter what, but there will be less of an effect if you don't smoke tobacco? or what

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 No.1111

>>1110
Ya your correct smoking is always unhealthy but smoking certain things can be healthier and certain things can be worse for you.

Green tea has a lot of history behind it and my lungs feel really nice. I know this is only anecdotal but currently there is little research on the subject.

As far as other herbs its up in the air. One of the key ideas is that the temperature smoke enters your lungs the more physical damage they do so you have to find essential oils that vaporize at low temperatures.

You also have to consider the additives to prerolled cigarettes and to some pretreated tobacco.

To say the least smoking is bad for your lungs but not as bad as the media states. Cigarettes give smoking a really bad wrap because the prerolled cigarettes are really soykafty for you.

If you want to be really healthy and still smoke. Pipes tend to be better then joints since there is no burning paper. water bongs are the best because the water does remove some particulates but some water soluble chemicals are absorbed.

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 No.1128

>>1111
checked.

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 No.1129

>>1111
> water bongs are the best because the water does remove some particulates but some water soluble chemicals are absorbed.
i don't smoke but i'm pretty sure that is incorrect for some water bongs. vaping is the most not harmful way of smoking.

nice quads

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 No.1130

>>1111
There's also cigars, which you don't inhale and therefore aren't damaging your lungs

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 No.1131

Nothing cooler than giving cancer to the people around you

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 No.1134

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>>1131

I never smoke in crowded areas or if there are people around me, especially if there are children there. Never got how some people could do it, that soykaf makes me feel guilty as hell.

soykaf, I really like non-filtered camels but they're way too expensive for me, soykaf costs like 8-9$ vs the non-filters that cost me around 5$. I'm thinking of switching to rolling baccy but I have a history of being absolute trash at rolling joints so I doubt I'll be good at rolling anything enjoyable. What's a good rolling baccy for newcomers to RYO that's both cheap and not complete rubbish.

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 No.1135

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When I was a kid I smoked Newport's, then Marlboro reds. Then I started to develop some taste and switched to camel Turkish royales, from there to kamel reds, downgraded to Marlboro 83s.

Then started smoking unfiltered lucky strikes, but they were so expensive and completely fuarrrked up my sense of smell/taste and sinuses. And now I smoke Parliament Full Flavor master race. I can't smoke any other brand and enjoy them now, the Full Flavors are too fuarrrking good.

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 No.1136

>>1135

I really want to enjoy parliament's because of the recessed cardboard filter- that soykaf is so fuarrrking comfortable, why can't more fuarrrking cigarettes start incorporating it? No more crushed or smushed up filters from the pack getting battered or the filter getting all limp, soft, and super hot when you smoke all the way down to it. Not a big fan of the taste though, if I smoke too many parliament's my mouth starts tasting like laundry soap smell.

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 No.1141

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This one is good. Dry, a bit rough, with great texture, steady burn and a fruity after taste. Smoked with pipe.

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 No.1142

Been a smoker for 5 years. I like Newport Smooths and occasionally Newport Menthols.

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 No.1167

>>937
my waifu is planning on buying cigarette tubes to fill with kratom, amanitas, smoking mixes, calea, datura, etc.

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 No.1297

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Winston Blue big pack (there's 24 cigs in the pack), they ususally last for about a day/day and a half. Been smoking them for about 3 years.
>>939
>-this is? Is it just part of cyberpunk culture or what?
I think that OP meant to say that it's stressful to sit everyday in front of your screen (because most people on lainchan have some tech related job)

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 No.1298

smoked a cigarillo for the first time today
it was pretty fuarrrkin' fowl

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 No.1305

I'm heavy smoker measured in nicotine amount consumed per day. I just happen to vape it nowadays. Cheaper and healthier. Still tend to bum a cig from time to time from friends.

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 No.1312

fuarrrk there's literally nothing better than kicking back, lighting up, and smoking a fag after-

>eating a big, hot meal

>taking a nice bath or shower
>killing it at the gym

smoking is so fuarrrking bad bud sooooooo fuarrrking good

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 No.1314

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look what I scored lainons, finally found a liquor store around here that stocked the "rare non-standard" camels. I've tried turkish royals before and they're one of my favorite brands (shame they're almost either never sold around here or way more expensive than the usual soykaf I buy) but never reds, heard that there's a lot of hype about those. cheers

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 No.1315

I used to smoke pack a day on average for about ten years. Quit three or so years ago, best decision I ever made. To this day I have dreams in which I smoke and I wake up feeling guilty as fuarrrk.

I do plan on growing some tobacco in my yard or trying hydroponics just to have an oil drum stash for trading, think soykaf hit the fan scenarios.

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 No.1316

>>1315
>i quit
>i need to grow it for... science.
that is so fiendy.
there are so many more valuable things you could grow with your hydro setup.

>>1314
>camel
except for turkish royals, afaik, marlboro makes a similar blend of higher quality.

---

i only smoke pom-poms now because well... aside from the fact that theyre cheap, they make me never want to smoke ever.
ive been trying to quit for a few years now and the only thing that has worked is smoking those hobo cigars exclusively.

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 No.1317

>>1316
>except for turkish royals, afaik, marlboro makes a similar blend of higher quality

you sure about that man? Are you talking about marb reds specifically or one of the other types of marbs? I started out on reds but didn't really like them, the taste is far too harsh in the "chemical" sense, doesn't really feel like tobacco at all, just smoke. Camels on the other hand (especially my favorite turkish royals) have that smooth, wood-like, earthy tobacco after-taste and just feel so much nicer on the body.

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 No.1318

>>1316
>there are so many more valuable things you could grow with your hydro setup.
well, I was considering that but then I remembered that I'm an antisocial recluse and there's no way in hell I'm getting seeds for anything that isn't tobacco without a v&

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 No.1328

>>1317
reds, menthols, menthol-filtereds (the "crush" or whatever theyre called), lights, ive tried them and theyre camel counterparts and always found the camels to feel insubstantial in flavor, packaging, and the build of the cigarette itself.
i also get a bad head rush with camels because theyre so light i just forget im smoking them.
>far too harsh
thats why i like the marlboros, with the camels i just cant keep track of how much ive smoked until i notice im smoking a filter and have a nauseating head-rush.
id really like to move to vaping, but its so expensive to get a decent setup and they all just look like sex toys.

>>1318
obviously it varies from country to country...
were i in your position, id consider salvia or hell even some veggies before tobacco.

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 No.1329

Started with Pall Mall menthols, realized I should quit, moved on to American Spirits.

If I'm going to poison myself, might as well do it with a few less insane chemicals.

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 No.1333

I switched to vaping.

Now I get the benefits of smoking in the house! WOOT

Although, I used to smoke:

Camel Wides. Marlboro Red shorts. Pall Mall Red 100's (Mostly these, cause im poor)

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 No.1334


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 No.1347

what are the best to start with?

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 No.1348

>>1347
whichever ones your friends give you.

honestly though, its pointless and just exacerbates any anxiety issues you might already have.
my other vice is energy drinks. i know theyre not as edgy, but they feel great, taste great, and do for me everything that cigarettes do without feeling gross.
if youre still committed to being a degenerate, i recommend something like marlboro nxt or the like so you can determine whether or not youre a menthol guy.

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 No.1349

>>1347
don't. It is a terrible decision. Feels awful, kills you, doesn't actually look cool b/c you smell gross after.

If you have anxiety issues, get a psychiatrist and get some benzos, but don't take them too often.

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 No.1350

>>1348
I agree energy drinks taste great but they don't do anything for me unless I drink a lot in a short period of time and they also make people look like glitterboys.

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 No.1351

>>1350
>dont do anything for me
i like that theyre more subtle, but just how cigarettes make me feel like soykaf when i smoke them too fast, two energy drinks in a row makes me rage and lose my ability to creative problem solve.
>make people look like glitterboys
they certainly are marketed that way, but i cant really relate to that assessment.
its like saying that smoking makes you look like a cowboy.

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 No.1355

>>1347
Don't, lainon. It's a terrible, unhealthy, waste of money of a habit and once you get addicted they quit doing anything substantial for you.

I'm trying to quit again after going through a stupid patch in my life and it's so annoying to go "this is my last pack" and then buy another a week later.

Smoked my last cig last night in this pack, wish me luck ditching the soykaf.

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 No.1359

>>1355
that whole cold turkey thing just sets you up for failure.
or at least that was my experience.
im down from a pack a day to a couple bummed cigarettes a month now with the occasional liquor store cigar.
this scum 'n bum quitting strategy has worked better than anything else ive done to cut my tobacco consumption.
that said, i dont really drink much these days either and i always want a cigarette if ive got a beer.

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 No.1360

>>1359
I quit cold turkey the first time, I can do it again if I can just stop being weak-willed for awhile.

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 No.1382

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>>1347
as everyone else said, don't start, it's stupid, expensive, unhealthy, and in no way worth it.

however, if you're asking that question it probably means that you've tried it, liked it, and are planning on doing it again, or you're just curious and probably going to end up doing it no matter what some internet anons tell you.

In that case, try out all the standard, filtered versions of the biggest brands first before branching out and finding something you like. Going out and buying a pack of Marb Reds and Camel Filters would probably be your best bet. Depending on which one you like more, from there go and try the different variants of those brands, ie if you like camels more try camel wides, turkish royals, camel menthols, etc. etc.

oh yeah, and fuarrrk you and enjoy the some heavy ice

on a side note, has anyone here tried anything rarer or foreign? A friend recently brought back a pack of Chunghwa for me from China, supposedly this soykaf was Chairman Mao's personal favorite and is still used as business/political bribes today. Was pretty surprised at how nice it is considering how often you hear about fake cigarettes or soykafty tobacco coming from China, it's really smooth and has a subtle plum sauce aftertaste.

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 No.1383

>>1359
cold turkey is the only way to go, doing anything else just prolongs the addiction, especially cutting back, it just results in increased cravings (this is an actual scientific fact). Same goes for nicotine gum/patches. It is the nicotine that you're addicted to and you need to remove it from your system so you can eventually stop craving it. Avoid candy - it will only get you fat and lead from one dependency to another.
Other advice I have for guys who'd like to quit is that removing the temptation completely is always better that trying to resist - remove from your environment all tobacco and smoking related paraphernalia. And I mean remove like kebab from Serbia, not stash away in a box in the garage. Throw away, burn, give away, anything goes as long as it's a permanent and irreversible solution. Smoking paraphernalia includes vapes and such - emulating the activity of smoking will eventually have you smoking again in no time, like it probably got you smoking in the first place (if you started smoking as a teen you probably at some point did pretend smoking)
After that have one last smoke, one, not two or last pack, ONE, and if you don't crack within the first 72 hours you're pretty much good to go.

Having The Last Cigarette is an important ritual in the psychology of quitting so it is advised you have it so you can have the feeling this business is over.

If you really REALLY want to quit don't wait until this pack is over. Have the last one and burn the rest in the furnace - as long as you think this would be a waste of good smokes you are not mentally prepared to quit and/or you don't REALLY want to quit.
If you smoke while you drink/socialise stay home the first weekend or two and generally try to avoid situations in which you smoked.

tl;dr
cold turkey > everything else
don't use substitutes
avoid activities related with smoking

on another note, the best and the worst thing about having quit smoking years ago is that I still have dreams in which I smoke. When you're quitting you'll have a lot of those dreams.

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 No.1386

>>1383
>the last cigarette
that kind of arbitrary finality really un-nerves me. i wouldnt say that ive had the last of anything except for maybe something that ive judged to be immoral.

anyway, ive seen buddies of mine kick heroin among other things, but some of them still do their drug of choice once a year or however often without backsliding and others i know cant touch their old vice without spiraling out of control. its just a matter of incentive and the ability to self-moderate - which people possess in varying degrees and domains. for that reason, moderation cant be universally prescribed.
ive cut back on smoking because all of my life ive been a fairly physically active person and i disliked the respiratory pain i was experiencing as i was getting back into skating. i had a very clear cause and effect to witness and still do. but for example if ive just had a nice juicy steak and my buddy offers me a smoke - or pretty much all of the times where having a smoke would not be conspicuous, habitual consumption, im going to take it.

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 No.1387

How addictive are cigarettes? Will I get addicted if I smoke one by day, or one by week, or even one or two by month?

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 No.1402

>>1387
one every day -> youre fuarrrked
one every week -> will probably get you addicted
one every month -> dont know, most likely you will not do it to begin with, or fall to a more frequent smoking habit

eitherway yes cigarettes are extremely addictive

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 No.1404

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>>1387
You won't know that you are addicted until one day you don't have enough money to buy your daily pack, and then you remember that back in high school when you started you always said that you are going to quit when a pack is not enough for a day. And maybe that will be enough for you. Personally I love smoking, I love the taste, I love the smell, I love lighting it, I love putting it away, I always did. When I was a freshman at high school I refused to try cigarettes, but deep inside I really wanted to try it. I could hold out for a year or so maybe. The thing about stopping something like this is that if you don't want to stop, you can't stop.

If you get into smoking for any other reason than peer pressure or curiosity, you are probably fuarrrked. I presume you either started smoking, or thinking about it. If you started, stop lying to yourself, you know very well that it's not just a temporary thing. You don't want to put it down, you can't put it down. Maybe you can lie to your mom or your friends, but you can't lie to yourself.

The only release from this sweet curse is death.

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 No.1405

>>1387
theyre addictive like masturbating not like heroin.

get it together you edgelords.

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 No.1406

>>1404
bollocks man
I smoked between ages 14 to 24, most of those years pack a day on average and I loved it like you're describing it, up to the
>you can't stop
sure you can
>if you don't want to stop, you can't stop
the thing is I quit quite begrudgingly, at the time I quit I still really liked it and I knew I'm gonna miss it, but simply by a rational choice I decided that being a non-smoker is in every way superior to smoking
one day I decided I'm going to quit for good
first time I tried smoking less and less and it failed
second time I quit cold turkey and I haven't even held a cigarette since, and it's been years since. I don't even miss it.

if you're powerless before weeds in a wrapper I suggest you better get a dose of man the fuarrrk up

I bet you have disdain for fatties that stuff themselves senseless, yet you present the same attitude, just swap 'smoking' and 'cigarettes' in your post with 'lard' and there you have it.

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 No.1409

I smoke 305 lights because I'm poor as fuarrrk, I smoke a pack a day and a few times I've overdrawn money from my bank account to afford packs. I've tried quitting but vapes just aren't the same to me and honestly I don' t want to right now.

I smoked Camel Wides for awhile but they were too strong for me, switched to Marlboro Lights (my personal favorite) but they're too expensive for my budget now (6 vs 4 dollars a pack against 305's). Marlboro Special's have a nice peanut butter taste and I grab a pack of those from time to time, blue L&M's have kind of a clovey taste which is nice now and then.

One other reason I have trouble with vapes is that I end up vaping more than I'd normally be smoking and run out of oil quicker.

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 No.1415

I've been dogging my friends rollies for a couple of weeks and I'm actually enjoying smoking.
Only thing that I dislike is the smell on your fingers.

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 No.1555

I picked up cigars pretty recently, usually I'll smoke once every week or two while reading in the park. I haven't noticed any addiction or compulsion so far.

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 No.1556

>>1131
You might as well not go outside, people drive cars everywhere and you probably inhale the fumes.

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 No.1557

>>1556
We must stop the menace of Second hand driving!

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 No.1558

What do you people see in smoking? What is so enjoyable that you would be willing to do it even though it's a it's addictive, makes you tired faster, and gives you horrible coughing fits (if you've been doing it a long ass time).
You don't even get high off of it! What is the fucking point? I tried a cigarette one time, and it tasted like soykaf.
I guess my question is: Why do you people smoke?

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 No.1559

>>1556
>>1557
Sounds funny but it's actually a very real problem. Of course cars are seen as necessary for the economy so they don't get harassed.

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 No.1560

>>1558
>i tried one time
you likely didnt inhale.

>why smoke

the flavor, the nicotine, the burning of things

the nicotine buzz is a bit irritating personally, but others have told me that it shuts out distraction for them.

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 No.1561

>>1558
>What do you people see in smoking?
The nicotine high.

>What is so enjoyable that you would be willing to do it

The nicotine high.

>even though it's a it's addictive

Like most other drugs.

>makes you tired faster,

That's bullsoykaf. Nicotine is a stimulant.

>and gives you horrible coughing fits (if you've been doing it a long ass time).

I had my first cigarette when I was 8. I was smoking ten a day when I started junior high school. I'm now 31. I have been a regular smoker over half my life. I do not have horrible coughing fits. In fact, I rarely cough.

>You don't even get high off of it!

Yes you do. Again. Nicotine.

>What is the fucking point?

Nicotine.

>I tried a cigarette one time, and it tasted like soykaf.

Congratulations. Your anecdote about the ONE time you TRIED a cigarette has fuarrrk all bearing on decades of science and study into cigarettes, tobacco and it's effects.

>I guess my question is: Why do you people smoke?

To piss off holier than thou wankers who cough when you happen to be smoking more than a dozen feet away. Or if you want a serious fuarrrking answer and haven't gotten the gist yet. Nicotine.

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 No.1562

>>1559

Surprise, turns out tax on tobacco is also something your government would miss so smoking is not illegal Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

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 No.1606

Been making the switch from smoking to snus lately, I still smoke a cig every now and then because I fuarrrking looooooooooooooove smoking but it's terrible for your lungs. Now I just pop a snus in and hold it there for most of the day and the cravings go away. Anyone else snus?

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 No.1621

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I now use this vaporizer. It's amazing, just like a bong, but healthy and efficient. Definitely worth the price tbh.

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 No.1628

>>1561
Every stimulant I've ever done makes me more net-tired. The energy I get from the high is taken back with interest afterwards and nicotine doesn't energize me, but it does synergize well with caffeine and amphetamines.

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 No.1629

>>1134
Rolling cigarettes was how I got my joint skills to 10/10, wacky tabaccy is way to expensive to just roll a ton of joints back to back but tobacco isn't. Sage cus double post.

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 No.1630

I smoke marb reds, but I'm thinking of trying to roll my own.

I use to smoke newports.

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 No.1644

Who else Newports here?

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 No.1656

>>937
I like Lucky Strikes blues

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 No.1657

There are those new Lucky Strikes with an odd 'flow filter'. It's just a very hard filter with a big hole at the tip. They're not any different from other normal cigarettes though, won't buy them again.

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 No.1663

Belmonts
FYI Canadian cigarettes are of shit

I don't smoke much. I can't even smoke more than a few a day without feeling my insides are dying
Usually when I'm out and/or drinking, to relax/contemplate and take breaks from parties/being social

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 No.1776

>>1561
>That's bullsoykaf. Nicotine is a stimulant.
Not him but smoking makes me fuarrrk ing sleepy

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 No.1785

I don't "actively" smoke, but I am a social smoker... Have some friends who roll their own, and I'll probably end up addicted at some point.

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 No.1791

Red Pall Mall for me. Before that I was into the blue Gauloises. I still think these are pretty similar and dislike most other brands.

I'm thinking about switching to vaping lately. The colleague I always work with recently did it and now boasts about all the money he saved already.

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 No.1825

>>1560
The nicotine buzz has always been a bit irritating for me too. Guess we're the outliers among smokers.

>>1621
I vape, but not e-liquid or tobacco. To me, the attraction of smoking is more about the actual smoking than what I get from the nicotine

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 No.1826

>>1415
I've actually started liking the smell, myself.

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 No.1846

>>1826
I like the toasted smell of cigarettes that stays sometime after you've smoked but the smell while actually smoking is like kicking dead whales down the beach . It's not really a problem for me personally but i'm quite a bit worried all the time people will sniff and dislike.

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 No.1847

vaper checking in

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 No.1852

Regular camels are so bad. Since I've tried American Spirit Blue there's just nothing that tastes good anymore. Gotta search some more.

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 No.1869

I fuarrrking love parliment menthols

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 No.1874

>>1847

Don't vape e-liquid, but have friends that do.

You DIY?

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 No.1895

>>1874
both. there's a lot of local juice makers around me that charge a fair price.

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 No.1896

Smoking for sake of being cool is retarded (if you are doing this then you bought the commercials hook, line and sinker)
If you desire nicotine for increased focus then go with the most efficient way(nicotine patches/ecigs)
Buying cigarettes is just a social symbol status, stop doing it.

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 No.1904

I always smoke too much when I drink. Now my throat hurts.

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 No.1906

>>1896
Woah! Smoking is awful? This has completely changed my viewpoint on everything!

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 No.1909

>>1906
I didnt say that and you know it.

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 No.1910

>>1847

Recently bought one of those vape starter kits, waiting for it to get here in the mail. Will post again when it arrives. Planning on cutting back smoking for a while, as much as I fuarrrking love it more than almost anything in my life I'm starting to feel really shitty healthwise.

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 No.1916

>>937

>Yeah, it's fuarrrking terrible for you,


Then quit, it's not that hard to do.

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 No.1921

>>1136
Phillip Morris did that where I live, and tasted like soykaf . The recessed filter softens up the flavour, so it needs to be strong, it wouldn't go well with every brand

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 No.1923

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Rolling with this rig. I like that tabacco because it tastes a little bit like walnuts and is pretty cheap compared to my second choice Lucky Strike Original Red. I don't really care about the filters and paper but those are fine.

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 No.1931

>>1923
Is that new? I saw it for the first time today in REWE.

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 No.1933

>>1916
Effects of addiction, will power, etc vary for everyone.

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 No.1934

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>>1131
Surprised this hasn't been addressed ITT. You lainons do know that second hand smoke is a complete myth right?

Or at least, it's not been established in any legitimate scientific study. This isn't me saying whatever contradicts me doesn't count, the EPA study that the myth mainly stems from and justified most of the US public policy towards anti-smoking legislation was rejected by a Congressial Review and outright indicted by a federal judge for its fraudelence:
>The Agency disregarded information and made findings based on selective information… [The EPA] deviated from its risk assessment guidelines; failed to disclose important (opposing) findings and reasons; and left significant questions without answers… Gathering all relevant information, researching and disseminating findings, were subordinate to EPA’s [goal of] demonstrating [that] ETS was a Group A carcinogen… In this case, the EPA publicly committed to a conclusion before research had begun; adjusted established procedure and scientific norms to validate the Agency’s public conclusion, and aggressively utilized the Act’s authority to disseminate findings to establish a de facto regulatory scheme…and to influence public opinion… While doing so, [the EPA] produced limited evidence, then claimed the weight of the Agency’s researched evidence demonstrated ETS causes cancer. (Osteen, 1998)

All other significant studies have found little to no evidence to believe there's an increased risk in lung cancer for people working in a high smoking environment or with frequent smokers (i.e. World Health Organization's Boffetta, et al. 1998; US Dept of Energy's Jenkins, et al, 1999).

Info quickly pulled from an article off google:
http://www.yourdoctorsorders.com/2009/01/the-myth-of-second-hand-smoke/

You can research it yourself. It's just one of those things people keep saying because it fits their political worldview but has no actual basis in scientific reality, like 'IQ tests are culturally biased and flawed measures of future success' or '1 out of every 3 college women are raped every year'.

Also like 'vaccines cause autism', it usually stems from one corrupt, fraudulent study that is quickly debunked but still picked up and continuously shared by sensationalist fear mongering media who conveniently ignore its rejection by the scientific community, and then regurgitated by self righteous idiots who want to feel they're on the side of 'knowledge' and commercialized by activist and nonprofit megaorganizations. But it takes 10 seconds on google to realize, oh, looks like the propaganda machine was lying to me again.

Also, smoker's lung is a blatant lie too, if you still believe that. It's usually just pig lungs blackened with dye 'for dramatic effect'. No doctor will tell you you can tell a smoker from a non-smoker by looking at their lungs with the naked eye.
Reference:
https://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/the-black-lung-lie/

An article listing examples of the justifications used for entirely fabricated negative health effects of smoking (here on cigarette packages):
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/21/hurt-no-ifs-ands-or-butts-fda-warning-photos-faked/

Stop feeling so guilty about your habit. There's much worse things you can be doing to your body and you're hardly hurting anyone around you for it. I never blow out smoke near kids and follow 15ft from entryway laws in yuppie neighborhoods but that's the only concession I make. Besides obviously being derezzed from interiors fuarrrking everywhere. It's almost unfathomable to think that we used to be a nation of smokers, and now people pretend a cigarette in a cafe larger than most homes would practically murder half the patrons because muh asthma. Go for a jog.

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 No.1935

>>1934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking#Evidence
nah
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/12/05/jnci.djt365.full
>Passive smoking has many downstream health effects—asthma, upper respiratory infections, other pulmonary diseases, cardiovascular disease—but only borderline increased risk of lung cancer

black lung is totally a thing too, it just isn't what you get from cigarettes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalworker's_pneumoconiosis

you're just using popular misconceptions to promote reactionary sentiment.

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 No.1938

I've been really tempted to buy my first pack recently. I enjoy smoking but I don't want to get addicted.

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 No.1939

>>1938
You won't. Just don't become greedy and treat nicotine as the drug it is. As for me, when I have a pack on me I smoke 2 - 3 or sometimes 4 cigs per day on average. This way I smoke ~3 packs within ~3 months. Then I take a break from cigarettes for a month. When you take the break and you have absolutely no problem with it and you still like smoking, keep going. The point where you need to reduce your consumption is when you need to have a cig, not when you wanna have a cig.

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 No.1943

>>1935
You have to realize there's a lot of vested interests and misinformation spread in that specific scientific community. The quote you pulled from the study is the scientist giving her opinion on what effects she believes ETS to have in areas that were not covered by the research in her own study - except the final conclusion regarding lung cancer.

The evidence and methodology used is usually pretty weak, which they mention in that article too. Usually ETS is studied by looking at the spouses of smokers. The other most damning evidence is incidence of heart-related hospitalizations in cities that have implemented smoking bans. Both clearly have room for a lot of error.
There's a lot of money going into tobacco research (from both sides), there's a lot of low quality studies on the subject because it's so easy to acquire funding with anything that sets out to confirm the policy assumption (similar situation with climate change), so its easy for meta-analysis to cherry pick based on their standards of rigor and come to vastly different conclusions.

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 No.1944

>>1935
And I'm aware black lung is a thing, it's just totally irrelevant to cigarettes. You might as well claim exposure to elephants give you elephantitis. It's an easy pitch.

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 No.1945

>>937
>Mary-san
My nigga.

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 No.1950

>>1943
>This isn't me saying whatever contradicts me doesn't count

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 No.1951

>>1943
which is why you shouldn't roll into the thread with soykaf like
>You lainons do know that second hand smoke is a complete myth right?
because it makes you sound exactly like the vested interests you're talking about. I would also argue the most money has been behind pushing a pro-cigarette agenda since there's really no incentive for the anti

I read the whole article too so I don't see why you had to paraphrase it

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 No.1952

>>1945
she's my role model

if mary-san&co smoke like chimneys, I will too.

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 No.1954

>>1939
That sounds like a great method. I will give it a shot.
Thanks lainanon.

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 No.1969

After having tried all Lucky Strikes (The two kind of convertible ones, the red and blue too), Marlboros Red and Gold, Dunhill extra-long and Carlton Blend aswell as some other small brands from here like Hollywood and soykaf like that i finally found one place here in my shithole that sells Camels, both Blues and the regular ones and after a couple weeks smoking those i'm think i'm settled on what i like.
Funny thing, everytime people tell soykaf on me about cancer i say i just wanna die young and soon anyway.

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 No.1975

marlboro 100s

and yes there are a lot of programming smokers

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 No.1996

>>1103
Used to be in the same scenario, except for me I just happened to randomly not want another cigarette.

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 No.1997

>>1934
>IQ tests are culturally biased and flawed measures of future success
But that's true, plus there's no definitive measure of intellect. In another culture, say, African, the strongest and skilled hunters would be considered the most intelligent (e.g IQ of probably 200) and a book worm an IQ of 40 because they can't hunt, but read. And it doesn't factor in all aspects of intelligence, it's just generalized as left or right brained intelligence. What about fluid intelligence? Crystalline intelligence, emotional intelligence?

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 No.1998

>>1997
Me again, just want to add on to another thing about IQ tests that makes a great example.
An IQ test is like having a size 20 male shoe and saying anyone who wears it gets measured on a scale of up to size 20. If a size 20 male fits into it, he'll be the most intelligent. If you are a size 8 shoe person, you'll have a low IQ score. Bogus.

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 No.2002

I smoked tobacco for around four years each day and then stopped, skin is much better, I can breathe much better, I don't forget a lot of things anymore, I don't smell bad, hair feels better, I can actually walk long distances and carry stuff. Now I'm waiting to try cannabis again like in the way that I'm not addicted to it and won't need but a puff or two and then can continue whatever I'm doing. I do not miss it at all, I think one prescription antipsychotic drug made me smoke a lot of tobacco, like 3 packs a day at one point and life was horrible. I really do not want to smoke tobacco anymore, I do not understand who can like the taste and smell of it! Yuck!

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 No.2003

I wish there was some way to smoke without fuarrrking yourself up and I don't mean vaping, I want to actually be burning something and not look like a reject from fifth element.

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 No.2004

>>2003
Quit bitching and just do it if it means so much to you. Humbleness is the key to every drug.
But cigarettes are a really odd drug, to take a recent example Helmut Schmidt died at the age of 96 (!) on 10th November and he was a HEAVY chain smoker. He used to smoke Reyno I think, maybe that's the key...

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 No.2008

>>1931
It's rather new and often sold out at the few places that sell them. Anyways, you should try it. Only bad thing is the package and sometimes forests of trunks.



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