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 No.1911

>Be on medication for various mental illness since teens
>Occasionally suffer very bad insomnia
>About half a year ago manage to get a prescription for Zolpidem (ambien)
>Holy soykaf does that work
>Proceed to take it nightly
>The prescription isn't ending, despite the fact it's meant to be short term
>So every week I pick up 7 and take 7
>Eventually start doing it a bit more recreationally
>Several at a time and then go for a fun walk, that sort of soykaf . It's great.
>Now 10mg doesn't touch me, not even to sleep.
>I can't fuarrrking sleep again.
>I still only get 7 a week and probably shouldn't even have that
>I feel I've fuarrrked myself on this one

>So do I take more in one go, fewer times a week or

>Go cold turkey for however long it takes to regain sensitivity?
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 No.1912

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>>1911
Oh, and by the way, the only reason I could take multiple ones at a time for soykaf and giggles was I had a bit of a supply stocked from when I was starting out and often had spares. They used to give you months at a time instead of a week.
That lovely backup pile is nearly gone.

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 No.1914

>>1911
Ask your prescriber about titrating down ('weening off of') Ambien. He'll definitely understand and suggest either taking a little less than the recommended dose every few days until you've worked your way off of it or start prescribing you big bottles of lower-dose Ambien pills.

Prescription drug dependency is a harsh reality and telling your prescriber about taking two or three more than you should have for sedative effects won't get you anything more than a slap on the wrist (he's sworn to medical confidentiality). He's used to people getting addicted and building up strong dependencies to stimulants, sedatives, and every other pill on the prescription pad without ever hearing his two cents. Please tell him your regular doses (what you actually take, not what the orange pill bottle says you should) so that he can help you work your way off of them. Ambien withdrawal shouldn't be taken lightly and consulting him is a must.

In the mean time, taking a little lower than the dose for threshold psychoactive effects (10mg?) will help you dodge withdrawal shakes.

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 No.1915

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>>1914
You're right. That's all rational.
Though it presents its own problems. The healthcare in this town is stretched to breaking point.
You daren't see your GP (family doctor) for mental health stuff. They never like to touch it.

So you have to go to a specific clinic. But even that is booked solid most of the time (really high percentage of mental health problems in this town). You won't be able to see the doctor for a prescription change for many months at a time. This is no doubt why I've had access to so many.

You're never sure if you've fallen through the cracks until they call you one day out of the blue.
If you call them, they'll request to call you back later.
Then they won't.

I can rant all day about this country's severe budgetary restrictions on mental health services punishing the sick. But it would take a miracle to reverse things right now.
You can't even get time as an inpatient in a hospital unless you're threatening to blow up a school or eating your own soykaf or something. They say there's just not enough beds.

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 No.2021

>>1915
Call them every day until you get an appointment in the next few weeks. Get this soykaf out of your life.

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 No.2035

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>>2021
Holy soykaf . I must be more burned out than I thought. I barely remember making this thread but I did.

So, update, I got discharged from the clinic. (I think they were looking for an excuse for a while. One less mouth to feed so to speak) A misunderstanding about "optional" therapies led to me being branded uncooperative and let go.
So I've still got the prescription, but no way to edit it. Not without entering the system from square one again at least.

I also took the dumb option and started hoarding again. Which the silver lining is, I don't need them to sleep any more. (I know insomnia is episodic, but it's nice to know it isn't lurking for the second I run out)
So I've got my nest egg rebuilt, but have cut down on how frequently I'll use them.

I always struggle to class an addiction, it feels more like boredom. I can NOT do it, it's just a matter of doing something else. Boredom is hard to medicate.

My latest rock bottom involved taking some on Saturday night, before being invited to a bar by a friend. Drinking tonnes and "running off into the night"
I woke in my bed the next day with a bucket full of puke next to my head, cuts and scrapes all over my arms and a horrid headache. I then saw I'd managed to split the toilet seat in two (plastic not wood). I do not remember a thing after about an hour at the bar.
I think I got a mild concussion or something, ever since then I've had a ringing in my ears and headaches when I exert myself or move my head too quickly. There's a bump on my head but I have no idea what from.

This is all a pointless rant of course, I'm not expecting a cup of tea and a hug. I make my own rock bottoms and'll rot there soon enough.
I make very dumb choices and am an excellent liar. I could rule the world if I only had some ambition.

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 No.2036

>>1911
Without being too specific, where do you live? It soinds like you need to move if you can. Or at least get new friends.

I hope you can find a way out, OP. You have some sense of your situation, so it's not hopeless.

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 No.2037

>>1914
>telling your doctor you want less drugs
nah dude
just keep getting the pills and stop taking them.

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 No.2038

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>>2036
I live in jolly ol' England. In an area rife with mental illness and drug addiction alike.
I've grown up knowing addiction. Drunks infest the streets almost nightly, the air constantly smells like weed or dog soykaf .
People don't care anymore.

I saw some teens using a bong in a kids park outside a primary school (elementary school), fuarrrk subtlety, those idiots.

My social circle is comparatively very clean. Some budding drunks but never anything too destructive. I'm well aware I'm the group fool (self esteem check, I went through "group cancer" and "group letdown" first)

Only my best friend knows about the sleeping pills and bless him, he hasn't said anything. Though he of course has no idea the extent of their use.
Some others know I'm on them for medicinal purposes, not recreation.

I've never cared much for self preservation. Odds are I'd have my paws in something much worse if only I had the connections.
I've told my best friend to tell me if they start becoming a destructive force in OTHERS lives.

I gave up on life far too young. It's now an old habit to write myself off.

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 No.2039

>>2037
This. Start selling them for bitcoin maybe? Turning your vice into a product is a great way to kick an addiction.

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 No.2040

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