drg - drugs 2.0

Not really, sometimes it just happens. I had a friend do something very similar (also on LSD) and while it's very frightening at the time they always do come back down eventually. However, I would recommend her staying away from psychedelics in the future. Things like that can be indicative of having bad trips in the future or averse psychological/neurological reactions.

>>1658
I never dose too strong without my trusty benzos close by. Alprazolam (Xanax) powder can be bought online for $35/g. A single gram (500+ doses) will easily last you a lifetime. If the trip-ee refuses to swallow it, just mix it with a half-cap of everclear and pour it down their hatch. It's a must for any well-to-do psych head because as well as stopping 'bad trips' right in their tracks, it also takes the edge off of serotonin syndrome and anxiety attacks.

The more often you trip the more mentally stable you will become. Start small, build up.
Getting a bad trip is only because you think you are going to get a bad trip. except for maybe the few out there who've had a bad past or are just not ready for psychedelics in general.

I've had some visual experiences in the past that scared the fuarrrk out of me. You have two choices, keep thinking about the stuff that you just saw and get more scared about it (when tripping, if you think about something hard enough you will simply see it appear in front of you so avoid that), or you can just ignore it and change the mood of the space. changing the music/room/light. In order to do this you must be prepared before going tripping. Take some stuff with you to do, always have a backup plan(one that doesn't involve cars is recommended).

If you are however tripping with someone that is unable to get out of his 'stuck' state of 'thinking' he's going into a bad trip. Make sure to make directions as clear as possible. There's already enough chaos going on for the person. If you have had a 'bad trip' analyse it, think of it as a learning experience and use that knowledge when tripping again.

>>1662
>taking more drugs because you can't handle the one you're taking in the first place
Do what you need to do I guess...

>>1701
>Getting a bad trip is only because you think you are going to get a bad trip.
That's not true at all. Even in the most perfect scenario, LSD isn't as innocent a drug as many people think. Even without preconceived notions of a failed trip, you're extremely sensitive in more ways than one. All it takes is a rock in your shoe to make a good trip plummet.

>can just ignore it and change the mood of the space.
That's not a guaranteed fix either. I doubt putting on a Phish album or turning on mood lighting would have helped his girlfriend's condition

>Do what you need to do I guess...
>break both of my legs in a car crash
>get to the hospital, still conscious
>the doctor starts to give me morphine
>"ARE YOU NUTS, DOC? The last thing I need right now is a drug!"
LSD is a physically harmless chemical if used in a proper set and setting. It can be extremely mentally harmful in the event of a 'bad trip', which can in turn lead to physical harm. People have woken up in hospitals, people have woken up in prison, people have earned PTSD and flashbacks, people have jumped out of seventh story windows all thanks to bad trips.
Xanax is almost physically harmless and significant mental addiction/damage will not develop if it's used extremely sparingly. It can be used to effectively end a bad trip and prevent all of the nasty mental repercussions of LSD.

More drugs can complicate a situation, but that doesn't necessarily make it any worse.

I had a very strange trip with DXM, definitely up there as one of the most intense/fucked experiences I've ever had. I wouldn't say that it was necessarily bad, though I don't think I would ever want to experience it again. I took about 750 mg or so of robogels emptied into a cup of some sprite (robodrink is IMO the best way to ingest dxm if buying from OTC products), and when I was really starting to feel it and was becoming incoherent, I smoked a bowl of weed.

Basically after I laid down, I wasn't able to do anything but just exist. I felt like I had actually left my body, and was sucked into a void, and was flying through this void that wasn't empty, it was like flying through the bottom of the ocean where it is nothing but black in all directions. I felt like I was flying so fast that my body was being physically affected by it, and it was like this for hours. No music, no sounds save for my window unit air conditioner that came out so distorted I did not even comprehend the sound as being something of this planet while I was under.

The next morning I felt so fuarrrk ing out of it just had this though of 'Damn'

I can't think of any way to prevent reactions like that, though it seems that you and your friend did a marvelous job handling the situation. What were your girlfriend's comments afterwards?

Once when I was tripping with a group of 4 buds, I ended up walking back to my place because for some reason I got the impression that our gathering was over. After sitting down for a bit pondering things, I decided I needed to go to the bathroom. But on my way there I realized that I would like some of my drink, and that it would be best to drink first so I could avoid the bathroom later. Then on my way to take a sip of my drink I realized that there was some other drink in the fridge that I might like instead. Then on my way to the kitchen I thought that it might be nice to just lie in bed and close my eyes for a bit. And so I spent 10-20 minutes meandering around my apartment thinking of different things I should do, until one of my friends called me and we all re-conglomerated at my place. soykaf happens.

Maybe we should all look into acquiring some fuzzy carpets?

Is that even that bad of a trip, really? You didn't say she seemed super upset or was crying or anything. Sounds like a typical state of ego loss, seeing profundity in how we have separate identities but on another level we are 'all one'. I've been like that before where it is impossible to fully conceive of of how our identities are constructed, and who we really are, etc. I wouldn't be that concerned to be honest. Of course it would be better without the thought loop... but it just seems like an overreaction to think of it as some incredibly bad trip. She couldnt even remember it... no traumatizing memories came from it.

Also I actually recommend against cancelling trips with benzos, unless there's physical danger or something. Most of the time when I have had difficult trips, the best part is the end where the problem dissolves away and lessons are learnt. Difficult trips can be the most insightful. If you cancel it before that resolution comes it can make you feel like the problem is unresolved and the feelings will linger, possibly even for months. This happened to me the one time I took benzos when I was upset.

Ehh, the
>"I am [her name]. You are [my name]."
thing sounds like a pretty natural reaction to getting some ego death. 3 tabs of acid also had me pacing in circles in my house for at least an hour thinking about inane bull soykaf .

I've had a proper bad trip involving running around naked and wrecking soykaf on 4-aco-dmt. I was having fun at the time too and it seemed like a sensible thing to do. Didn't realize it was a bad trip till I started coming down and saw the results. Happened toward the end of the trip out of the blue, too. And I'd tripped like 25 times or so before that happened.

>>1701
The type of bad trip you're talking about is a different, much tamer type than what I had. Your advice is good for just getting bad vibes but that's not really a bad trip.

>>1703
Benzos don't really lower the mindfuck or the trip ime, they just make you more comfy and generally more good-vibesy. Maybe it's different for you. But still, the comfyness is good, and I'm sure any placebo you've got about it would make you calm down (a friend who took xanax tripping convinced himself it had made him mostly come down when he was still totally out there). Personally I take benzos with psys quite a bit, I'm not a fan of the physical stimulation some of them give, and always when coming down so I can actually sleep.

>>1662
You should look up what serotonin syndrome is. You're not gonna be getting serotonin syndrome just taking psychedelics, even mixing them, or mixing them with dissociatives or whatever you've got, from what I've read they don't effect it too much. Unless you're taking 2C-T-7 or another psy with maoi activity. MAOIs and SSRIs and serotonin releasers are what's gonna be giving you serotonin syndrome, not just agonists like your psychedelics. And you should not be mixing SSRIs or MAOIs or what have you with psychedelics to start with. If you're talking about shaky jaw or something, I get that soykaf on LSD and DXM too but that ain't serotonin syndrome.

>>1705
Sounds like holing. Have not had that on DXM (well I have had the body twisting and stretching and maybe a mild hole) but yours sounds like a huge dose of MXE, except I've never taken a dose big enough I cant get out of it by opening my eyes. And of course with MXE all you want to do the next day is take even more and do it again.

>>2022
>I'm not a fan of the physical stimulation some of them give
Give etizolam a try. It's the physically-smoothest and lightest benzo I've ever crossed paths with.
>You're not gonna be getting serotonin syndrome just taking psychedelics,
I meant 'psych head' as a euphemism for local dealer. I've only ever seen it happen once with maybe-MDMA/unknown prescription pills but having some liquid Xanax on hand was a godsend.
>shaky jaw
Maybe try magnesium supplements?

>>2023
Actually, etizolam is the only benzo I've used (fuck, I'm on some right now). Yeah, I take it with trips a lot for that, makes it super comfy especially alongside MXE. MXE has the added bonus of taking the trip up to 11 while still keeping you stupidly comfy.

Yeah with a serotonin releaser and MAOIs or SSRIs the possibility of serotonin syndrome would go up by a fuarrrkton, I see what you mean now.

I took those for a while but I only trip a few times a year these days, and I wasn't taking them during a period I was tripping. Maybe I'll try going back on em back around the time I trip. But I've only ever got it on LSD, none of the other psys I've taken, and DXM, and none of the other dis I've taken. And I'm talking 1 tab LSD or 100mg DXM, low as fuarrrk doses (I was sensitive to DXM so that was first plat, have taken DXM hardly at all since I got MXE).