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 No.1[Reply]

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 No.2043

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How to buy spore rings?
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 No.2063[Reply]

Was just prescribed .5mg of Clonazepam (klonopin) 3 times a day. I was reading this

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1076447/

Do you lainons know if klonopin can have
cognitive/memory problems? I was also
thinking of doing it directionally at
1.5mg would this be a good dose? will
that increase the cognitive/memory loss?
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 No.2064

>>2063
* recreational not directional

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 No.2065

>>2063
this is quite well known, and im sure you can find this info on many other sites extremely easy. but yes, klonopin makes you forget shit, you can forget days at a time bingeing on benzos. the high is like most benzo highs, but more sloppy i think. recreational use of benzos is similar to being drunk, but in a more drug-induced way. about 1-2mg is recreational if you have no tolerance to benzos. please note that klonopin has a longer half life than xanax for instance, so it can leave you impaired for up to 12 hours. IMO clonazepam is also one of the stronger prescription benzodiazepines, and you should be careful taking any more than 2mg while having no tolerance, as you'll probably end up doing some stupid soykaf . remember, benzos are a family of VERY addictive drugs, i have witnessed people ruin their lives and their minds with them, proceed with caution, and be well informed. i suggest you check out some druggie websites with more peoples first hand experience and advice on taking benzos, erowid is a good start.


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 No.2053[Reply]

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-drug-lords-of-tomorrow-will-be-biohackers

> drug lords our investing money into biohackers
>with already 1/2 million people having chips in their brain to help disorders to flood brain with chemicals to help with with x disorder
>investors are looking for a way to create highs using those chips with biohackers

What's your opinion lain?
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 No.2057

>>2054
>>2055
Personally I would never get implants (I'm opposed to tattoos and piercings just because they violate my body in a way)
but I can easily see them getting mass-marketed and popular among consumers

People will obsess about improving (upgrading) as they already do, and our society is getting quite comfortable with technology in all aspects of life

Just wait until you have lineups for Apple's iChips

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 No.2059

>>2057
I wonder if Apple will patent hormone secretion chips?

Just imagine the "iTranny"

Seriously though, I might consider something that I could program to reward me on completion of certain tasks. I used to do that with food before I started becoming health-conscious.

The only thing holding me back would be the inevitability of corporate/government backdoors. I wonder how open-source wetware would work.

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 No.2060

Huxley called it in '61:

>There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.

https://archive.org/details/AldousHuxley--TheUltimateRevolution--ABlueprintToEnslaveTheMasses

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 No.2061

Would you pay Microsoft to monitor your computer for illegal activities get you party vanned?
Would you pay Google to drive your car off of an overpass on your way home from the gun store?
Would you pay Pfizer to pump Valium into your brain whenever you think about Molotov cocktails?
Popping pills is a vice. Letting somebody else control what pills you pop is just stupid.
>>2059
>Seriously though, I might consider something that I could program to reward me on completion of certain tasks
You can get ten different apps for your phone that exact thing.
>I wonder how open-source wetware would work.
It'll be just like the Oculous Rift v. HMD technology. Any FOSS implant technology startups will stamped out almost immediately because the too-big-to-fail pharm companies in charge of the market don't want people to realize that freedom can coexist with modern technology.

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 No.2062

>with already 1/2 million people having chips in their brain to help disorders to flood brain with chemicals to help with with x disorder

inb4 govenment just tells eveyones chips to overdose them of dopamine whenever something happens people would normally revolt over.


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 No.1967[Reply]

Anyone here ever tried bhang? Supposedly it's a cannabis milk that supposed to get you real fuarrrked up. Muzlims and Hindus apparently like it.
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 No.1968

It is a very widespread thing to do. My waifu says it is because substances in question are lipophillic and generally dissolve pretty nice in fats. Waifu also said that one could just pour fat milk, a bit of butter and cannabis in frying pan and cook on small flame without lid. When there is no only a little of milk remain, waifu would squeeze all the liquid out of weed and consume the liquid and get very fuarrrked up.

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 No.1970

>>1968

I only learned about it recently from a book I read. The way some historical accounts make it sound, back in the day some people would take it and behave like raving maniacs in the street and occasionally someone would think the dudes running around messed up on it were some kind of holy men.

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 No.1971

The THC bonds to the fat and then the fat enters your body very quick meaning you get high easily. You technically need to more to get as high as you would smoke it but it stays in your body longer this way

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 No.2058

>>1970
The process reminds me of weed-infused baked goods/butter

Considering just how potent edibles can get this >>1968 seems pretty accurate if people in contemporary society were not used to mind-altering substances

As for bhang, this sounds like something my waifu should try


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 No.1800[Reply]

So once you cross that threshold where normal life feels sickly. When you can't live without some buzz, no matter how slight,
When you always feel purposeless, but sobriety makes the thought disabling.
What the fuarrrk do you do then?

Is this just a normal existence, with everyone substituting their own thrills and pleasures?

Basically I'm a piece of shit, and in no way want to change my behaviour. I'd just like some validation that everyone's as bad as me.
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 No.2044

>>2042
I'm the same, except that by the time I would be able to put my thoughts into words, I've already moved on to my next thought. So I really have to plan out what I'm going to say ahead of time or else my conversation won't make any sense. And even when I do plan ahead it sounds weird to other people.

I guess it doesn't help that I don't talk to very many people.

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 No.2045

>>1804
that last one made me laugh. especially "holy soykaf son a formula".

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 No.2047

>>2044
the worst thing for me it's explaining things to people, I either try and explain it the way I think about it which turns out to be gobbledygook to most people or I try and explain every detail and never get to the point.

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 No.2048

>>2047
I am bad at explaining because it always turns into lectures vaguely related to the thing.

I mean, I know what you want to know, but when I try explaining it I usually just tell people how I understand, which is usually linked with a fuarrrkton of other things, so anyone gets very confused, especially if you add that to the "skipping steps" thing I do.

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 No.2052

>>1800

you sound like one of my closest friends, he had a "slump" like that and slowly went from drinking a bit more in the evenings / weekends to being a functional alkie. Still goes to work and makes good money though, and doesn't get shitfaced drunk so he's fine as far as life goes. Just that without drinking he feels that there's no point in living. Hang in there, hope you're feeling alright.

IMO, as long as you don't take it too far it's not necessarily the worst thing you could be doing with your life. Almost everyone has some sort of sin or habit that they fall back on when times get tough, be it gambling, drinking, smoking, w/e.

Personally used to smoke for a few years before switching to vaping, now I go after nicotine all day like a fiend. Gets my mind off things and helps me relax and accept life.

Also, wanted to say, that "normal life feels sickly" thing is spot on. Couldn't have put it into words better myself, I've spent a lot of time thinking about things like that but that sums it up nicely.


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 No.2049[Reply]

Thoughts on generic drugs, and how the TPP will change patents? also are they the pharma equivalent to FOSS?
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 No.2050

What will the TPP do in regards to drugs? Can you post a related section?

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 No.2051

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https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/


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 No.2031[Reply]

Yo /drg/, something happened to me and is probably still happening to me to some extent. I know caffeine is a drug and I needed to stay up this Saturday. So I drank four cups of starbucks coffee between 6-10pm and I'm still up, but here's the thing, I've had lots of coffee before, more than this, why do I suddenly find myself so much stranger than usual? It's like my body sped up to high velocity like some speed force shit, saw the light of pure God within me and far beyond me and died down, leaving a faint memory of what I saw/heard/felt. I remember having a similar experience after smoking some real dank weed awhile back though not nearly as pleasant, maybe I drank some coffee that night too haha
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 No.2032

one word: tolerance
When you drink coffee everyday your body becomes imune to it, after you stop for some time you're back to being hyper stimulated
I would advise you also dropping the starbucks and buying your own coffee or just buying caffeine pills(much cheaper/effective than hipster starcucks)

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 No.2033

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>>2032

Thanks man, I don't think it was really the coffee that did it so much as the anxiety coffee normally causes made something inside me open up or clash that had been stirring in my paranoid and confused mind for awhile. Those existential or spiritual moments you gotta go through but are held back by something.

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 No.2041

Caffeine, while not particularly intense has fairly interesting effects.
Generally the most common thing I've observed in myself while taking doses considerably over my usual daily dose was an intense feeling of mania, followed by an extremely heightened pulse and blood pressure and nausea.

Generally caffeine seems to "brighten" everything you see, while also numbing the mind, making things feel less "real".

It's very interesting in how subtle and varied it is in its effects.

>>2032
>not brewing your own coffee
Also, either progressively increase the caffeine intake (bad) or just write up a consumption pattern that takes tolerance into account.

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 No.2046

>>2041
>Generally the most common thing I've observed in myself while taking doses considerably over my usual daily dose was an intense feeling of mania, followed by an extremely heightened pulse and blood pressure and nausea.

"Mania" sounds like a good way to describe what happened to me. I wasn't even aware until recently it was possible to overdose on caffeine.

When I just wouldn't calm down, I had a cup of chamomile tea and took a calcium/magnesium supplement and that seemed to help.

>Generally caffeine seems to "brighten" everything you see, while also numbing the mind, making things feel less "real".

Yeah, if you've ever seen that episode of The Twilight Zone starring Rod Taylor where the three astronauts find out they probably don't even exist and begin freaking out the minute they "feel like they aren't supposed to be here," that's almost the way I started feeling.


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 No.1911[Reply]

>Be on medication for various mental illness since teens
>Occasionally suffer very bad insomnia
>About half a year ago manage to get a prescription for Zolpidem (ambien)
>Holy soykaf does that work
>Proceed to take it nightly
>The prescription isn't ending, despite the fact it's meant to be short term
>So every week I pick up 7 and take 7
>Eventually start doing it a bit more recreationally
>Several at a time and then go for a fun walk, that sort of soykaf . It's great.
>Now 10mg doesn't touch me, not even to sleep.
>I can't fuarrrking sleep again.
>I still only get 7 a week and probably shouldn't even have that
>I feel I've fuarrrked myself on this one

>So do I take more in one go, fewer times a week or
>Go cold turkey for however long it takes to regain sensitivity?
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 No.2036

>>1911
Without being too specific, where do you live? It soinds like you need to move if you can. Or at least get new friends.

I hope you can find a way out, OP. You have some sense of your situation, so it's not hopeless.

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 No.2037

>>1914
>telling your doctor you want less drugs
nah dude
just keep getting the pills and stop taking them.

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 No.2038

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>>2036
I live in jolly ol' England. In an area rife with mental illness and drug addiction alike.
I've grown up knowing addiction. Drunks infest the streets almost nightly, the air constantly smells like weed or dog soykaf .
People don't care anymore.

I saw some teens using a bong in a kids park outside a primary school (elementary school), fuarrrk subtlety, those idiots.

My social circle is comparatively very clean. Some budding drunks but never anything too destructive. I'm well aware I'm the group fool (self esteem check, I went through "group cancer" and "group letdown" first)

Only my best friend knows about the sleeping pills and bless him, he hasn't said anything. Though he of course has no idea the extent of their use.
Some others know I'm on them for medicinal purposes, not recreation.

I've never cared much for self preservation. Odds are I'd have my paws in something much worse if only I had the connections.
I've told my best friend to tell me if they start becoming a destructive force in OTHERS lives.

I gave up on life far too young. It's now an old habit to write myself off.

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 No.2039

>>2037
This. Start selling them for bitcoin maybe? Turning your vice into a product is a great way to kick an addiction.

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 No.2040

[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa8KaLgomPo [/url] listen to this!


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 No.1953[Reply]

hey lains

im updating my DXM site

http://4x13.net/dxm/

what should i add?
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 No.1958

lol i didn't knew you used lainchan

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 No.1972

>>1956 >>1957
Good advice, thank you!

>>1955
The worst is the nausea, but it can be suppressed. Music is fuarrrking awesome on it but you might leave your body ooo ooo ooo

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 No.2028

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hey! of topic but are you friends with bumbaloe? Are you guys roommates?

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 No.2029

Hi Sabisuki.

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 No.2034

>>1956
Don't go way over the top no DXM + psychedelics though (although mention no DXM + 2C-T-7 or anything psy + MAOI)


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 No.1974[Reply]

Has anyone here ever smoked salvia? How is it like? Is it harmful?
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 No.1976

There wasn't a lot of fun to be had and for me it was very cut and dry.
>How is it like?
My one experience (10x extract) felt like my consciousness shot out of my throat as soon as it hit me and was trans-morphed into some sort of paraplegic schizo. Things were changing around me so fast that it was hard to find a comfort spot and I hardly had any control over my limbs to do anything about it. The hallucinations were nothing too 'out there' and felt like a shitty low-dose mescaline peak.
>Is it harmful?
Mind-altering substances by and large are. There's not a lot of research on salvia to chart out risk potential, but it reads on the safer side of the spectrum. Wikipedia brings up some mental health benefits but methinks that might just be the editor being slanted.

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 No.1981

Dont do i got so fuarrrked and paranoid

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 No.1984

One of the harshest smokes there is, but well worth it.
You also should use something hotter than a normal lighter.
Bizarre reverse tolerance - You become more sensitive the more you do it.
Fully fledged insane out of body egoless electric space dirt psychedelia - Like nothing else I've ever done.
That it only lasts for a few minutes is rather interesting. But don't let that fool you - Those minutes can literally be an eternity.
For my waifu, every trip has culminated in some sort of glorious and beautiful cosmic joke being revealed.
It's pretty hard core and can be terrifying, but there's this innocence and jovialness in it.
The afterglow is wonderful.
Highly recommend doing it at least once or twice - It's really not something you'd want to do much more than that anyway.

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 No.2016

>>1974
Isn't salvia legal in almost all US states? Also how hard is it to grow?

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 No.2030

>>2016
apparently it can be really fuarrrking hard to grow


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