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 No.2425

Who here thinks /dank maymays/ can be used to mask virtual psychs. As in, picture a meme, which looked at in a different angle morphs into a psychedelic experience that is free, requires no actual physical substance and can be effectively masked from any authority. Complete plausible deniability (just like the 3 Letter Spooks!).



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 No.2620[Reply]

So my waifu is interested in acquiring an adderall script. She's in her 20s and she thinks it might be able to help her out, but she's concerned about getting turned away due to tweakers seeking prescriptions. She doesn't know if she was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid, but her parents were against getting her medicated and opted to use some "all natural" crap to help with her problems in school. It didn't work.
Anyway she is looking into getting her medical records from her old hospital, but again she's not sure if she was ever even diagnosed. She doesn't want to ask her parents about it just due to embarrassment and their stance on meds.
She's done some reading on the subject and it seems like her best bet is to see a shrink that treats ADHD. Can anyone give some advice on choosing a shrink and what to say/do to maximize her chances of success? Would it be stupid to claim she was diagnosed as a kid? Would the shrink demand some records as proof?
Her plan is to go to the shrink and plead her case with a little bit of exaggeration. Not much is really needed since she ticks off all the boxes for ADHD already.
Is she over thinking all of this? We have heard people claim that it's easy, but she doesn't want to waste her time or money on something that's likely to go awry.
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 No.2625

>>2624
No, just be completely honest. If you want it because you think you have adhd, but you don't actually have it, it's just gonna tweak you out anyways and you should just turn to meth if thats what you really want.

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 No.2626

>>2625
The goal is to get a prescription either way. If it helps her then that's great. If it doesn't then she will have some cheap drugs to trade for other drugs.

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 No.2627

YMMV, actually. A friend of mine has ADHD (as do I) and said that one of his doctors barely even looked at his legitimate ADHD diagnosis papers before prescribing methylphenidate, all he had to do was get an EKG or something. I can't speak for adderall but I would imagine the process is similar.

>>2625 is right, honesty is the way to go. The tests generally work; if you don't actually have the condition it's probably best that you not have an easy inconsequential source of stimulants. Of course if you do have ADD you don't have much to worry about.


ADD meds aren't really magic pills that let you focus harder. I find if I'm unfocused before taking my meds then I'll just keep doing the same bumfuck thing once the stimulant kicks in, just with more gusto. I have to set my mindset, environment, and goals correctly on my own; the medicine just gives me the motivation to move forward with my tasks.


As a side note, if none of this works out and you still want stimulants, I'd look into RCs. I don't know much about them but I've heard vague reports of people improving their focus at the risk of acute cardiac failure of course.

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 No.2628

>>2627
I should clarify, I don't think it's a moral issue that lain would have a source of stims, just that it wouldn't be best if they thought they had ADHD but in fact didn't, while consuming stims with that mindset looks like a great way to become dangerously dependent on something.

If you know where you stand psychologically and just want more stims, I don't see a problem there.

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 No.2632

Alright Lains, no beating around the bush. What need to be done to get that script? How would you go about doing it?



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 No.2603[Reply]

My waifu has recently been presented with the opportunity to obtain some heroin. My waifu has tried codeine which she understands is also an opiate and liked it very much. She was wondering if it is worth the side effects, cost addiction etc risk and also if anyone had any tips for a first timer if she does decide to try it
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 No.2606

Anyone on this earth would like opioids, that's the main reason they are addictive.

It is possible to use opioids without many negative effects, but first be sure that you have a ready income to supply yourself with it.

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 No.2607

>>2603

What's your personality like? Have you ever had a hard time stopping any drug, whether that be weed, tobacco, caffeine, whatever? Have you ever found yourself using drugs as a crutch?

If you can say, "yes," to either of the last two questions. I would avoid it.

Also, I think how accessible it is after your first try should be another factor. For many, it's relatively easy to avoid something if they're not around you (ex. you don't keep unhealthy foods in your house, so you don't eat them. If heroin will be something you can score with a relative ease after ur first try, I'd also be wary of it.

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 No.2608

Whatever you do don't go and inject it. Snort the stuff. Dead junkies always have micro scarring on their liver from the impurities in IV'd street drugs.
Anyway opiates in general are addictive as hell. You WILL feel the urge to use H again if you try it, so I hope you have some self control. Obviously you won't be addicted right away, but there's a reason why heroin is called the king of drugs.

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 No.2623

no. do not.

from my high school friends list:
- 2 people died from crack.
- 1 person died of alcohol poisoning
- 26 people died of heroin

just. dont.

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 No.2631

heroin is fucking awesome, it's great if you have zen level self control, but it's took fucking awesome.



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 No.2068[Reply]

I've been straight edge my entire life, but I've decided to try pot. I'm going to be smoking with someone I trust in a safe place, and I know what to expect for the most part, but I'm still nervous I haven't taken everything into consideration. Is there anything I should know? What general advice do you have for newbies like me?
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 No.2615

>>2593
The effect of high doses on sleep cannot be overstated. One time my waifu got very high and fell into such a deep sleep that she pissed herself as the sensation of a full bladder wasn't enough to wake her up.

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 No.2616

>>2615
Did she have a dream about being in the bathroom? I did once as a kid, but not on drugs. Seems to be a thing.
Also stop being a faggot, use Tor Browser with NoScript, RequestPolicy and Disconnect and dare to say "I" again. No power to the DEA.

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 No.2617

>2615

What? That seems pretty strange. I've never heard of such a thing in 15 years of hanging out with regular smokers

Also,
>fell into such a deep sleep that she pissed herself as the sensation of a full bladder wasn't enough to wake her up.

I came

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 No.2629

Marijuana is highly overrated.

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 No.2630

>>2629
That's a very self-righteous thing to be saying in the designated marijuana advice thread. It's available just about anywhere, it's largely harmless, and anybody who isn't a square enjoys the effects.
>>2616
The "my waifu" thing is a joke, it used to be a board-wide filter. It's not about the illusion of legal protection, it's about having fun envisioning somebody else's waifu slowly slipping into crippling substance abuse.



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 No.2579[Reply]

Hey guys. I have personally never tried dugs before, but of course I know plenty of people who have. For example my aunt who despite only popping a few ecstasy pills wound up with crippling psychological issues for the rest of her life. Sorry if this is too off topic but how do you guys prevent shit like this happening to yourself?
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 No.2589

>>2579
If your aunt has psychological issues because of one or two sessions of X, she probably already had problems; the X made them temporarily worse, but it looks to her like the X gave her those problems. Unless she's specifically extremely more susceptible to MDMA's neurotoxicity, it's not immediate brain damage that is the problem.

I had something similar happen to me with nootropics a couple of years ago. Minor amounts of anxiety and stress have always been a problem for me; when I started taking piracetam & caffeine together that anxiety got significantly worse. At first I thought all the symptoms I experienced (like dyspnea & excessive fear) were solely due to the noots. It took me a while to realize that anxiety had been plaguing me the whole time, and now that I've learned how to deal with it I can take noots, stims, basically whatever I want with a manageable level of anxiety.

My point is that if you have latent psychological problems, they're probably going to surface at some point or another, and probably already affect you to some extent. If anything taking X or a psychedelic might allow you to deal with those problems. That's not to say you shouldn't exercise caution when using drugs.

>>2580
>Ecstasy is one of the sketchiest substances...
If you mean street X, yes that is likely to have brain-melting shit that no one wants to take. And I guess the advice for OP is to buy a testing kit. But MDMA isn't as bad as I think you're making it out to be. If you're referring to neurotoxicity, then I'd present the case of millions of people taking methylphenidate therapeutically (myself included) over long periods of time, with no statistically significant brain damage.

I think your perspective on brain damage is a bit skewed. Most of the bad trip reports I've read on Erowid had to do with already stupid people taking excessive doses or mixing drugs and getting serotonin syndrome or just toasting parts of their brain. It's not necessarily the drug that's directly "zapping" your brain; if you're dehydrated and overheated and your serotonin receptors are maxed out, but because of impaired judgment continue to pop DXM, X, or whatever your poison, the resulting high fever and dehydration will definitely kill some braiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2597

>>2580
>Both times I suffered (minor) brain damage

what kind of brain damage?

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 No.2598

>>2582
Depression she is taking pills for and bipolar symptoms.

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 No.2609

>>2598
Depression can be a side effect after a lot of abuse, but it's usually coupled with other issues with cognition. Does she have trouble stringing sentences together or anything like that? If so, she was probably popping molly every weekend at the club and doesn't want to admit it.
If she is just depressed and bipolar then it's probably not really related to the MDMA she took. As others have said, certain drugs can bring out latent mental issues, but those would be issues that were going to surface anyway.

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 No.2622

>>2579
Thing about changes/damages to your brain is you never know at what point you could possible have.
I mean you could change at any moment and then look back on past memories with new bias.
Spoooky shit,



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 No.2386[Reply]

My waifu is interested in purchasing some illicit substances from overseas on a Tor market. She is in the US.
The vendor is very well rated, and apparently their stealth is quite good. My waifu is a little bit worried though, since this vendor is in the Netherlands and she has never ordered from somewhere outside of NA.
The illicit substance in question is unavailable from US vendors. Have any of your waifus ever done something similar? Is my waifu being paranoid because she thinks that stuff coming from the Netherlands may face extra scrutiny?
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 No.2446

NEVER buy outside national borders.

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 No.2447

>>2446
I wouldn't go that far. Canadian orders almost always make it through because customs hardly examines packages. A lot of Chinese packs make it through too due to the bulk of useless soykaf coming out of China.
It all depends on independent vendor stealth. Never buying from Western Europe without a drop address is a better rule of thumb.

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 No.2459

>>2446
Yeah, international boundaries are fine. Mai waifu had a sheet of LSD coming in from the Netherlands seized. All mai waifu got was a green slip.

For reference, a green slip is a common way international drug shipments are dealt with in the US, as long as the amount is small. Instead of the package, your waifu will get a letter from the Dept Homeland Security stating that your packaged contained contraband and has been confiscated. There is a number you can call to follow up further, if you wish. Obviously your waifu doesn't do this, and that's it, end of the story.

Things like molly, LSD, mushrooms, speed, RC's, that shit doesn't smell, at least to the human nose, so whether national or international, you're probably good. I'd suggest your waifu only order weed from national, though mai waifu has ordered international as well with no problems.

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 No.2618

i'm in a strict euro country and wouldn't trust mail from NL, but many people do it successfully or NL vendors would blacklist those countries and i also had mail from CZ inspected once. apparently they didn't open it because after weeks of delay it arrived with a sticker by some customs office on it.

ask the vendor if he can seal it in mylar, that should hold. or ask on The Hub or your market's forum, people there really know their shit (or used to, before shills and newfags arrived?)

be careful about britain, they're kinda hardcore, wouldn't surprise me if they check outgoing mail. but ask on the forums.

Never FE.

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 No.2619

>>2618
Any international vendor should use vacuum sealing and mylar. Check for reviews on reddit, people usually list how protected the shipment is.



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 No.2610[Reply]

Hey, lainchan, first time poster here. I didn't know where else to go with this (apart from my doctor).
I got a problem related to psychadelics. When I take them one of my eyelids closes involuntarily without me noticing... I didn't notice it until one of my firned I do psys with pointed it out (dickhead said it during a trip and I've been wondering about it ever since... maybe it was a good thing). He said that whenever we take psys my eyelid closes as if I was really tired, but the other eye is open and I seem to be listening to what he's saying during that pretty attentively, so I'm not falling asleep or drifting off. He said, that sometimes, but very seldom it happens also on weed. I connected the dots and remembered, that last time trying DMT my brother told me, that I had one eye open wide and one almost closed - which I didn't pay attention to at the time, because I attributed it to me being fucked up and tripping out - it was before my friend pointed it out. I started paying attention to it and sometimes I maybe even feel it and I think the visuals get kinda stronger when it happens... Does it happen to any one of you? Should I be concerned? I'm going to visit a doctor soon about it and also because few times in the past years (when sober and usually when dehydrated and when I stand up too fast - at least that's how I explain it) I pass out and have a bit of a seizure (I don't completely pass out, I'm just almost out of it usually... but I kinda lose control of my body for a while... I don't know if it's related, but I'll report both of these symptoms to my doctor... I've always been a person with kind of closed eyes, but this makes me concerned... Has anything like that happend to any of you guys? I think psys has shown to me an underlying neurological problem... I hope they didn't cause it... I was usually taking one of the nbome family, not sure about which... could it be because it's a vasoconstrictor? hope so...
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 No.2611

tl,dr; My eyelid closes involuntarily when taking psys, does it happen to anyone else?

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 No.2612

I get it when I've taken a lot of downers eg weed, xanax etc

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 No.2613

>>2610
I used to get it with DXM though I think that was just lack of muscle control

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 No.2614

>>2613
yeah, tbh when I focus I can keep it open.... but also if I focus I can kinda let it drop down which I'm unable to do sober, lol... but thanks guys for making me feel better, I will go to the doctor anyway



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 No.2591[Reply]

Wikipedia says solanine, which is produced when potatoes start sprouting, can cause hallucinations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine#Symptoms

However, the side effects don't sound very nice and i couldn't find any info on erowid or similar sites so it probably is not a good idea.

Nonetheless i wanted to ask if anyone knows more about this topic.
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 No.2596

>>2591
Buy datura if thats what you want.

Or DPH.

It's deliriant and your really don't want to do it.

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 No.2599

first off, commercial potato strains won't ever have high enough amounts for a trip, as tripping on potatoes is considered poisoning in farming, and hence were bred out years ago.

second, if you want deliriants, what you want is in the same ballpark with mandrake, datura, brugmansia or belladonna. However, these toxins have a small difference in dosage between harmfully toxic and hallucinogenic, and the chemicals are slow acting, meaning adjusting your dose to be effective but not deadly is a challenge. it's possible but not easy.

third, all of these plants will have wildly differing amounts of chemicals in them, so dosage that's accurate for one plant won't be the same for others.

what happens if you overdose? you might die.

tripping on these is not impossible, but not easy. I would advise anyone to stay away from these unless they know what they are doing very well. the trips themselves are seldom fun or recreational. try reading datura trip reports on erowid. most of the time trips will be weird as fuck, and you will most likely remember very little afterwards.

just stick to buying drugs from deepweb or growing your own shrooms. You really can't go wrong with shrooms.

you might also go for a walk in the woods and try to hunt for muscarias.

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 No.2600

>>2595
>If you literally do not care about <side effects>
i do care, but aren't the same side effects listed for many recreational drugs as well?
i guess the question is whether you first start vomiting or first start tripping and how far the thresholds for those effects lie apart.

wouldn't recommend to try this at home either. if it worked well it would probably already be part of cultures around the world, considering potato poisoning is common in famine-ridden times and places.

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 No.2601

wow, that's almost as bad as middle schoolers eating nutmeg or smoking hops or catnip or something to catch a buzz

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 No.2602

>>2591
>Solanine poisoning is primarily displayed by gastrointestinal and neurological disorders. Symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps, burning of the throat, cardiac dysrhythmia, nightmare, headache and dizziness. In more severe cases, hallucinations, loss of sensation, paralysis, fever, jaundice, dilated pupils, hypothermia and death have been reported.

>Solanum glycoalkaloids can inhibit cholinesterase, disrupt cell membranes, and cause birth defects.[3] One study suggests that the toxic mechanism of solanine is caused by the chemical's interaction with mitochondrial membranes. Experiments show that solanine exposure opens the potassium channels of mitochondria, decreasing their membrane potential. This, in turn, leads to Ca2+ being transported from the mitochondria into the cytoplasm, and this increased concentration of Ca2+ in the cytoplasm triggers cell damage and apoptosis.[4]


The hallucinations happen in the more severe cases, meaning you will only start hallucinating after your digestive system destroys itself.

OP, this is basically poison. If you actually get any hallucinations it will be something along the lines of "FUCK I'M DYING WHY ARE THERE DEMONS IN FRONT OF ME" as you proceed to puke your intestines out. This stuff literally causes your cells to self-destruct.



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 No.2380[Reply]

How can I reduce the need for sleep (4-6 hours is optimal) without drinking too much coffee?
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 No.2556

Has anyone in the US ordered from Modafinilcat? They say they ship out of India. How likely is it that the package would get intercepted?
I know that any punishment is unlikely the first time you get caught shipping some petty bullshit, but I'd rather not get caught at all, obviously.

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 No.2564

>>2390
This
Coffee is delicious and very good for you. My Father and I drink about eight cups throughout the day, I nap when I get home, and wake up after thirty minutes. Then I'll have a cup of coffee, I guess based on >>2382 I'm biphasic, although around one PM I'm tired :/

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 No.2571

>>2564
>Coffee is delicious and very good for you

It's like any other drug. Eventually you'll need coffee for baseline function and in my opinion that's not bueno.

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 No.2572

>>2571
You can drop it cold-turkey within a week without too much trouble. (Read: Just headaches, moodiness and tiredness.)

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 No.2590

>>2554
she found that it really is best taken for longer periods, since it never really gave her the bursts of effort and attention that adderal and the like did (although she only tried it a few times, after already being on moda for a while anyway), and mainly just improved her ability to learn, and recall information over long periods of time. she found it's effects to be somewhat subtle, but really improved her focus and effort in lessons / study enough to show that it blatantly worked.

she never really experienced the sleep-depriving effects it's known for, and the only real noticeable side effects she experienced was bleach-scented urine and strangly after a while very vivid dreams (which really were a massive shock the first few times, they were not expected, and really were extremely vivid). It's best feature is that even after all this time, there still has been no tolerance at all develop, which really is what makes it so much better than the alternatives (in her opinion:^) )



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 No.2574[Reply]

So as of late I have been doing Yopo in high doses and regular dose acid every weekend and no drugs aside from cigarettes during the week. Could doing bufotenine/dmt and LSD have negative physical or mental effects I should look out for?
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 No.2578

HPPD. The actual facts surrounding it are shaky, but most of the people who report suffering from HPPD are those that did psychedelics as often as possible.

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 No.2581

>>2578
I thought of this too. Frequent trips might aggravate any underlying mental illnesses you might have. Even without these you have the risk of being too detached from daily reality.

Have a look at this too OP.

http://highexistence.com/topic/the-trap-of-overvaluing-peak-experiences-and-devaluing-mundane-existence/



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