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 No.1709[Reply]

i was going through some old txt files and a claim from a "git high from legal $hit"
saying that you can get high off on cloves, this seems like some bullsoykaf. So is this true or just a joke to play on some kids.
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 No.1737

>>1736
>There are quite a few really good research chemicals.
No objections here. What I said was easily misconstrued. I'll work harder on my phrasing in the future.
I advise against substances that are primarily advertised as a legal way to get high, not necessarily actual legal highs.
>San Pedro cactus and opium poppy seeds
Granted, but mescaline and all worthwhile opium-derivatives are illegal.

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 No.1742

if you want to feel like you have the worst flu ever for three days, eat about 20g nutmeg

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 No.1744

>>1742
First time I ever tripped was on nutmeg, and yes it can make you trip. It took me a week for the effects to wear off. The trip itself only lasted a day and was like DPH but with all kinds of bad side effects. and feeling like a zombie for a week. Don't remember how much it was, but it was a lot.

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 No.1770

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I just ordered myself some Kratom after hearing about it being a nice legal high.

Haven't got it yet but I hope it pays off.

Also there's nothing wrong with the odd DXM trip.

>>1736
There's also Morning Glory and Datura.
But only do Datura if you're a masochist.

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 No.1820

>>1744
I did this in high school

Would not recommend



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 No.54[Reply]

Hello, /drg/,

I've been taking ~30mg of the peptide Noopept daily for the last few weeks. The differences have not been extremely noticeable, but My Waifu could claim some enhancement in retrieval of existing memories, ability to retain more short term details, and heightened focus. The substance seems to have had an anxiolytic effect as well as an improvement in energy as well.

Noopept's distributors claim that it has similarities with the racetam family of nootropics which supposedly affect neutrotrophic factors and neural plasticity as well as spacial awareness and memory. Studies have demonstrated that Noopept has the ability to aid restore memory and cognitive functions in cases of hypoxia related trauma.

Has anybody here had experience with Noopept, or the racetam family? My Waifu should note that the compounds are legal, and in most cases not not require a prescription.
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 No.1531

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>>365
For max privacy and purrchasing power, I highly recommend https://www.modafinilcat.com/

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 No.1532

>>1531
If only they sold it in smaller packages.

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 No.1616

Can we call this thread /noot/?

So my waifu just got her sunifiram today, and tried 7mg of it on top of 27mg of methylphenidate ER.

Seems to intensify the stimulant buzz a lot, while making her even more focused. She says she's taking in everything around her, while she's still focused on what she's doing.

She'll note how she's performing during classes today. She'll also dose some piracetam later on, if she feels all right.

Some info about sunifiram:
It's a powerful ampakine that was discovered in 2000, and is supposedly 1000x more powerful than piracetam. Looks like the recommended doses are 5-15mg.

Like piracetam it's not very toxic, but unlike piracetam it's not very safe. At least two people have reported taking >100mg on Reddit and sustained some sort of brain damage, namely memory loss, I'm guessing from excitotoxicity. Hence the extremely low recommended dose.

The main risks associated with this ampakine seem to be combining it with stimulants. My waifu takes methylphenidate and caffeine very regularly, and consumes lots of green tea throughout the day. She'll be keeping tabs on her pulse, especially after taking the piracetam.

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 No.1617

Follow-up on >>1616
My waifu's alertness, focus, and clarity of mind were all increased while the sunifiram was in effect. After she took some piracetam, as expected, those qualities were enhanced even more. It's impossible to objectively measure her performance in class, but the STEM classes were at least more enjoyable for her, and she found the teacher easier to follow when working through formulas and problems.

One interesting observable effect was that the sunifiram caused her heart rate and pulse to increase (up to around 114 while resting), while the piracetam caused it to decrease (down to about 90), since piracetam is a vasodilator.

Her mood was strangely improved; my waifu felt much more comfortable around people she doesn't know, as my waifu is a complete introvert and is very avoidant. However, she felt the anxiety and restlessness associated with stimulants with the onset and first couple hours of ingesting the sunifiram.

All this having been said, this is a very "speedy" noot. My waifu would not have taken this stuff together with methylphenidate except for the fact that she consumes lots of stimulating substances, and seems to handle it pretty well. Sunifiram can cause brain damage, and the problem seems to be overstimulation and excitotoxicity. I could tell that had my waifu taken a larger dose of either concerta or sunny, then she would have been pushing some sort of threshold; she was plenty stimulated with doses given.

If you're here I assume you do your research, but this is not a noot you can play with and be guaranteed a healthy brain.

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 No.1819

My waifu went to the doctor today and asked for modafinil by name to treat excessive day time sleepiness. My waifu's doctor obliged in a way most uncommon of western medical practitioners. My waifu's modafinil is now covered by her health insurance, and she is so glad she had a frank discussion with her doctor before spending a fortune on mail forwarding services and dealing with pharmacies half way across the globe.

If only everybody had a doctor like my waifu's.



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 No.1781[Reply]

My waifu is very antisocial and doesnt really hang out with anyone offline and if she did they would probably be a bunch of nerds like her. However, she is interested in trying adderral but I convinced her to go OTC because she is too inexperienced otherwise. What are some good adderral alternatives that are OTC. She wants to use it to increase focus for studying mostly
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 No.1782

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Caffeine or modafinil are probably your best options. If you are going to take caffeine, please take L-Theanine with it to prevent tolerance build up. Read pdf related for more info

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 No.1786

>>1781
Fair warning to your waifu. If she has a penis, adderall can cause temporary erectile dysfunction and she should not panic like my waifu did.

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 No.1808

modafinil is controlled in America
try adrafinil instead

or 2-fa i guess

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 No.1817

>>1808
I've heard good and bad about 2-fa, the good being it's very effective, the bad being it's bad for your heart (which is true of most stimulants); does lainon think it's worth it?



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 No.1665[Reply]

So I'm probably going to start
antidepressants (SSRI's I think) due to childhood trauma I recently found out
about. I read some of the side effects
can cause loss of sexual ability among
other intimidating things. What are your
thoughts on antidepressants/SSRI's Lain?
Do you take them?
Please don't post any pseudoscience.
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 No.1793

>>1783
>>1784
That is not OP who you're responding to

I don't care about sex so that doesn't matter. Nor do I actively smoke.

I only want SSRIs to get rid of my emotions, I don't even care about getting help. If anything my waifu can sell whatever I get prescribed, but I keep telling her there's no market.

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 No.1797

>>1671
Yeah SSRIs are only used on kids because drug companies would literally sacrifice infants if they got paid for it. At least you didn't kill yourself.

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 No.1798

>>1700
Where do you live?

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 No.1813

Dont do SSRI, get Elontril instead if you are male. Those are way better and wont make you fat and impotent.

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 No.1814

Nortriptyline (TCA) + Duloxetine (SNRI) + Bupropion here: antidepressants definitely can work when you find the right combination. I'd also recommend therapy alongside your medications. I started off with Duloxetine and I showed moderate improvement. After upping the dosage I began experiencing suicidal thoughts and was voluntarily committed to a mental hospital. There, they put me on Nortriptyline which really seems to help with my energy level and helps me get to and stay asleep. With Bupropion on top of that I basically feel normal.



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 No.1773[Reply]

I'm thinking of purchasing some 4-fa or 2-fma, where would be the best place to buy research chemicals like this?
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 No.1774

Bad news, the Chinese FDA just derezzed both of those. Some vendors will still have them in stock though, check the list on reddit.com/r/rcsources

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 No.1787

Just ordered some 4-aco-dmt from bclsupply. It's going to be my first peer into the world of psychedelics (besides when I used to smoke a shit-ton of weed), and I hope it gets here quickly.

Just note that you will probably need bitcoins. I linked coinbase with my bank account and it worked just fine.

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 No.1795

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>>1787
Good luck! The first time I tripped was on 4-aco-dmt. I took 20mg (eyeballed, because my scale wasn't accurate enough) and had an excellent time.

Remember to think positive the whole time. Psychedelics are much stronger than you might realize, so it's important to always steer your mind in a good direction.
Plan things to do, watch, and listen to in advance.

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 No.1796

>>1795
Haha I forgot the first time I did psys- now like 70 trips later it's just like "of course that's what happens" but the first time I felt profoundly shaken



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 No.1365[Reply]

This is a story I wrote for my imageboard, but decided to post here too because it kind of fits. I'll paste it into the next post.
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 No.1423

This reminds me of high school, when i convinced a kid to snort Pop-rocks.

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 No.1424

>>1413
/thread

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 No.1771

Kek'd

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 No.1778

>>1423

Please tell me what happened, absolutely foolish.

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 No.1794

in tenth grade at my school there was a school wide ban on salt, I convinced a bunch of 9th graders to snort it for fun and they kept doing it. the rest of high school was truly bland in flavor



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 No.1461[Reply]

Anyone care to share their first acid trip?
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 No.1706

My first time with acid I was home alone, it was comfy. It was really enjoyable overall, and having a really textured wall was great, staring up at the ceiling all those rough bumps started assembling themselves into figures, the coolest of which were two /cyb/ looking robopolice girls who did like a beckon finger thing and the other was count chocula.

Another cool thing was the layers between the laminate or whatever the sealant is and wood of the floor were really pronounced, even though normally you would have to get really close to even see, it would look like it sort of rose around your feet.

I had went out for a walk as soon as I took it so the effects were starting as I was just about back home, slight discoloration of the sky and trailing clouds.

The texture of my walls was seriously awesome though, it looked liquid, and I could see the paint roll down them like drops of rain down a window.

LSD was the most entertaining visual drug that I've done besides DMT, which was a little too intense of a feeling for me.

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 No.1757

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well, i'm gonna start w/ a little disclaimee that i have never done lsd, but i have done lsa.
my older brother, a friend & i ate morning glory seeds: they both ate 300 seeds, & i ate about 200 because they were worried that i might trip too hard.
they threw up, & i couldn't throw up.
after about an hour, i could see tiny little triangles if i closed my eyes. i decided that was ok. after a while i could see obvious geometry & fractals even w/ my eyes open. it was this that made my brother & our friend decide that i ended up getting the strongest dose.
our friend & i watched some horse cartoons. i think the episode was about them having some kind of crazy dream. the irony was palpable, & the overall experience was magical. the horses had insanely altered figures & voices, & they were beautiful. i wanted to be among these fun & pretty creatures.
after another while, i had this crazy hallucination. i saw these really innocuous, indescribable moving images that i for some reason associated w/ death, but it felt like the beginning of everything for me — it was really uncanny, but i can barely remember the images themselves. i felt the cat clawing @ my leg really hard, but it didn't hurt.
when the images stopped, my brother & our friend were walking me home, & i could hardly articulate any thoughts, hell, i doubt i even had any thoughts. my brother & our friend were trying to communicate w/ me & snap me out of it, even slapping me more times than i even cared to count, but i didn't feel it, & i sure as soykaf didn't have any coherent responses. they were pretty scared for me, & i was none the wiser.
as we approached my apartment, i saw & felt some kind of karmic wheel made of lotus petals of all different colors turning behind my experience & actions. as the wheel turned, i did soykaf & soykaf happened.
eventually it ended w/ me thinking that i ended up being separated from reality, & i mistook the sound of the rain outside for the sound of my seemingly fictional existence fracturing & disintegrating until there was nothing. i was ok w/ it. i let it happen.
& then there was just nothing.
& then i woke up not remembering much of anything until weeks later

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 No.1758

>>1757
o yes, i forgot to mention. the wheel was kind of more like a clock w/ innumerable time indicators & the lotus petals were the things that happened

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 No.1772

>>1758
I had a similar vision the last time I took lsa. I could see this pinwheel with "abc" and "123". I wouldn't go away so I decided to go draw something. Every sketch I made had subtle 123's and letters. When I sobered up it all looked like scribbles.

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 No.1775

>>1463
>fuarrrking



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 No.1753[Reply]

hey guys.
i'm wondering about a proper method of rinsing pesticides & other bull soykaf off of seeds. i have no interest in performing any extractions, i just want to clean the seeds
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 No.1759

yeah no... get some lsd or shrooms from the dark net and never think about this legal high soykaf again.
some people get crazy stomach problems even from pure lsa and you only find this out when you already took it. trust me 6h vomiting bile and shitting yourself while your bathroom shakes and you get lost in the thaught that you are going to die because of this is not worth it.
lsa not even once.

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 No.1760

>>1759
i had none of these problems from eating morning glory seeds.
i didn't have any nausea or the shits @ any point while i was high. i only had mild nausea a little while before i was coming up, & i can deal w/ that

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 No.1761

>>1759
>>1760
besides, i already ordered the seeds



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 No.1611[Reply]

So can I buy psilocybin containing shrooms on the internet legally? I live in the states. Ostensibly for research reasons or some shit? Where?

I'm looking on Amazon for shrooms and feel like quite the nerd.
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 No.1615

>>1613
It is surprisingly difficult, be prepared to put a lot of effort in.
Get a spore syringe instead of a spore print if possible; in my country spore syringes are illegal and I couldnt even get one on the darknet at the time, and I completely failed at dealing with it (it was on foil and trying to scrape the spores off just ripped the foil no matter how careful I was. This soykaf is so fiddly).

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 No.1748

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OP here, ordered a week or so ago from the site mentioned earlier, received my package a couple days ago. Got a syringe of 'Golden Teacher'. Gonna go shopping tomorrow and get my growbox/substrate/errythang sorted out.

Suggestions on purchases would be neat.

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 No.1754

afaik, it is illegal to buy or sell shrooms. however, if you aren't living in states like california or idaho, you might be able to get spores, but don't quote me on it

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 No.1755

>>1754
>afaik, it is illegal to buy or sell shrooms. however, if you aren't living in states like california or idaho, you might be able to get spores, but don't quote me on it
--Anon

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 No.1756

>>1755
you know what i meant



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 No.1632[Reply]

Anyone here suffer from an addiction? Did you get over it? Or are you still battling it?

I use to be addicted to heroin, but got clean over two months ago. So far everything is going good, but sometimes I still have the urge to use. The drug also pops up in my dreams every once in a while. Whenever these things happen I usually just think of all the soykaf that drug has gotten me into and how shitty the withdrawals made me feel. It's amazing how fast you can go from "never wanting touch that shit" to shooting up in the bathroom at work.
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 No.1699

Yah I ran through some tough times in middle school where i started taking oxy and cough syrup as well as drinking and smoking regularly, attempting to kill myself using oxy and alot of cough syrup with tequila. I quit the hard way and still have problems with cravings, not so often anymore since i got more help but cannot afford any professional help. fuarrrk the Medical System in America.

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 No.1702

MXE addiction. In between relapses now, yes I plan my relapses, nothing quite like a good relapse you know what I mean? I'd be on some right now if the god damn mailman wasn't so lazy, fuarrrk I hate them.

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 No.1704

>>1702
How do you even find MXE these days? Since both China and Europe derezzed it the supply has really collapsed and all the Chinese vendors have been sending MXP.

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 No.1712

>>1704
Yeah soykaf is a pain in the ass to find these days. There's a few vendors you can find on the DNMs. So many people that became addicted from when it was legal and there's always people on the darknet making bank off this. MXE is here to stay, just need to know where to look.

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 No.1749

In highschool I had a big problem with amphetamine my grades were good but I was sleeping about 2 hours a day. I was interning for the IT guy at my school for 2 periods every day and that got me access to the teacher bathrooms that locked so for most of my senior year I would go to the teacher bathrooms in between classes and do a couple lines off the sink. Then my fuarrrk ing dealer got shot so I was basically begging kids for their addy that's when I decided to quit and I've been clean for about 1 year and a half.



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