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TPP Hoarding Project. Anonymous 2015-11-21 20:41:07 No.19652 [Last 50 Posts]

Hey /cyb/ and lainchan, the shazbots over at 8chan's /a/ are making a share project against TPP and we would like your help

==The fuarrrk's this soykaf and why should I care?==

As you know after TPP the cyber police will backtrack you IP and arrest you for any petty thing big companies want to sue you for.

To counter it we started this, our plan is to hoard soykaf pre-TPP and then share it around with I2P.

==What do I do?==

We are still planning shit, so there are four things you can do right now

>hoard shit

To share it afterwards. /cyber/ books, perturbator albums, anything goes.

>download I2P

Might as well get used to it now

>Suggest soykaf and help in the /a/ thread

https://8ch.net/a/res/371581.html#q372385

>spread it around

We need as many anons on this as possible, contact other small boards and chans.

https://geti2p.net/en/download
https://geti2p.net/en/about/intro
https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent

Anonymous 2015-11-21 20:56:27 No.19654

>>19652
just picked up some hdds and fired up the seedbox,commencing hoarding

Anonymous 2015-11-21 21:12:51 No.19656

>>19654

god speed, lainanon

Anonymous 2015-11-21 21:49:25 No.19658

I'm in but probably only with music and ebooks.

Anonymous 2015-11-21 21:51:31 No.19659

Is there any reason to believe that TPP is actually going to change life as we know it for the lowly US/CA media junkie?

Anonymous 2015-11-21 21:52:51 No.19660

>>19658
If i decide to join all i will contribute is music and ebooks.

I might be getting offtopic but how are private trackers affect by this? And we as users are we at a risk even on private trackers?

Anonymous 2015-11-21 21:55:59 No.19661

>>19659
Yes there is, but what I'm more concerned about is how we're taking a "save what you can!" mindset instead of taking direct action against the TPP. The implications of this deal go far beyond what anime you can torrent.

If we really want to stop this thing there needs to be some kind of activism that goes beyond signing another EFF petition or writing to your senators to stop it.

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:06:59 No.19662

>>19661
>there needs to be some kind of activism
Has there been an extremist group concerned with the freedom of digital information yet?
Note: @kalyx topics like this are why we need posting through tor enabled

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:10:46 No.19663

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>>19661
>>19662
what I'm hearing is burn down the data centres? at the very least we need to put a laughing skull on their computers, that'll show them

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:17:57 No.19664

save your data from social media profiles and delete them all if you still have any left

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:31:53 No.19665

gotcha lainon. i2p locked and loaded.

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:40:45 No.19666

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https://8ch.net/eternalarchive/index.html
8ch board, we'll use it as a central. **ignore the KS thread**
>>19660
Anything is good as long as you are sharing it. I'll share a soykaf ton of books as well as anime and games.
>>19659
Probably only a few are going to get arrested to scare the rest, but it's probably going to affect uploaders. We are doing this so that we won't be those few and in case the feds go full nuclear.
>>19661
>If we really want to stop this thing there needs to be some kind of activism that goes beyond signing another EFF petition or writing to your senators to stop it.
Webm related, it probably won't work. Even if it does they'll just push it again later once we forget about it.
There were plans to raise the bus fares where I live, my country went full nuclear against corruption and soykaf . Eventually the protests ended. The corruption continued, the taxes are still high as fuarrrk and the bus and gas prices went up.
Politicians are cunts and people are satisfied with it, so there's nothing we can do about it in this oligarchy soykaf .

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:47:08 No.19667

This explains all the new anime on postman's tracker.

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:55:58 No.19668

there is an irc channel now
#EternalArchive
on Rizon

Anonymous 2015-11-21 22:58:14 No.19669

>>19666
there are a few US presidential candidates rn who are promising to gut the TPP, and contrary to what you might think presidents are usually pretty good at attempting to fulfill campaign promises.

Anonymous 2015-11-21 23:00:33 No.19670

I'm having problems with creating torrents with i2psnark and their forum doesn't load.

Gib help.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 00:33:29 No.19674

If any activism is going to stop tpp it's going to come after the fact when people realize it's soykaf . For now I'm downloading lots of music and stuff.

Any general recommendations on good stuff to have for the oncoming shitstorm?

Anonymous 2015-11-22 00:54:08 No.19676

>>19669
Not the anon you were talking to, but...presidential candidates are the exact people that I have great difficulty trusting. Assuming they actually do tell the truth, we can only hope that one of the anti-TPP candidates will win the election, -and- our socialist president Obama doesn't ram it through during his last year of dictatorship--err, presidency.

>>19674
Music? Music is highly subjective. The only stuff I'd really recommend is anything you won't be able to find in the future via streaming botnets like Spotify & iTunes. Examples being Tool, any lesser known bands/songs/soundtracks (think of the stuff you've only ever seen on YouTube or on torrent sites).

Other than music:
If you haven't already, download the Gentoomen's Library (~26 GB)
and most of the stuff from http://rostudios.org/rantmedia/
That link contains a sackton of cyberpunk media et al. like NewsReal and Afternow.
And the new NewsReal: http://www.newsreal.ca/p/episodes.html - right-click all the mp3's & Save Link As.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 01:18:27 No.19677

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>>19666
Here's the study in question.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 05:04:34 No.19685

But I am poor and my HDD is already full.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 06:39:50 No.19688

>>19676
>Obama
>TPP
>socialist

HA

Obama's a moderate at best, and the TPP is as capitalist as it gets.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 07:16:59 No.19689

>>19688
No anon he is exactly the same as Marx and Stalin and CEOs are secret USSR sleeper agents who never woke up.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 08:17:51 No.19690

>>19689
>CEOs are secret USSR sleeper agents
I'd read the hell out of that story, honestly
A CEO slowly comes to the realization that he was an embedded USSR agent and gets filled with self doubt as to how deep the hypnosis goes and many other things about his identity

Anonymous 2015-11-22 08:50:18 No.19694

I suggest fellow hoarders to hit up the massive Rutracker before the Russian ISP ban coming December.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 09:06:48 No.19695

>>19694
we should be using bitcannon.io to backup torrent sites too

Anonymous 2015-11-22 09:44:02 No.19696

>>19676
>Tool
>lesser known

If we end up trapped in a future of nothing but Tool albums, I'm going to hunt you down and kill you, lain.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 09:55:38 No.19697

Anyone going to upload The Anarchist Library?

http://theanarchistlibrary.org/special/distro

Anonymous 2015-11-22 10:08:46 No.19699

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THE BEACONS ARE LIT! OTHER BOARDS CALLS FOR AID!

And lainanons will answer.

Time to buy more hard drives.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 14:08:14 No.19701

CONTINUE IN THIS BOARD

IF WE WORK TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE IT ANONS

https://8ch.net/eternalarchive/

Anonymous 2015-11-22 15:39:58 No.19705

>>19652
wouldn't GNUnet be more secure?

Anonymous 2015-11-22 16:30:56 No.19706

>>19676
>Telling everyone to dedicate 26Gb of storage to a single thing

If we are wanting to protect material, I get the idea that duplication is neccisary, but should not everyone go and seek the gems no one yet has safegaurded? We need to produce more of the Gentoomann's library type material, not just clone what already exists.

>>19670
I am not sure that you are using it all correctly. Probably you just need to read carefully through their instructions on configuration and starting up.

>>19669
But I am still waiting for rather a few of them to be fufilled from all the presidents that I can remember the campaigns of.

>>19705
No. Gnunet is not more secure.

What is more secure is both. Having both avaliable makes it an option for one to break.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 17:23:39 No.19708

>>19685
If you install I2P you'll already be contributing with your internet. You can also upload whatever you have.
>>19697
The torrent is only 3.4 GBs with all languages included. I'll download it but my internet is soykaf so it would be better it others do it as well.
>>19705
Never heard of it, but if it's safer than I2P you should make a thread in >>19701

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:14:24 No.19711

>>19690
>A CEO slowly comes to the realization that he was an embedded USSR agent and gets filled with self doubt as to how deep the hypnosis goes and many other things about his identity
that sounds cyb as fuarrrk.
this reminds me, we should get a mirror of the scp-wiki running on the i2p. for the sake of content.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:15:37 No.19712

>>19674
In terms of music?
like are you looking for suggestions?
>rusko and caspa's album fabriclive37
>amon tobin's album 'out, from where'

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:25:44 No.19713

>>19701
I really want to take part in this but I dont want to go near 8chan...
>what services on i2p are well used
>how can I help
>can we create and organize pseudosocial sites like imageboards (are there some that already exist?)

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:29:35 No.19714

>>19713
what's so bad about 8chan? Sure the community is mean and usually stupid but it's not anything traumatizing.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:30:46 No.19715

>>19714
Just stay the fuarrrk away from /b/.
/tech/'s alright if you don't mind the smug freetards.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 20:55:44 No.19718

>>19714
i didnt say it was traumatizing, i just dont want to bother with edgelords and people who think being more of a dickwad on the net then they would otherwise be IRL gives them cred.

Also theres the whole GG thing. and /Baph/... good lord these people. I just dont want to be connected to them.

In any case if anyone that already knows their way around i2p could help me find active sites on it that would be rad.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 21:06:21 No.19719

>>19718
>i just dont want to bother with edgelords and people who think being more of a dickwad on the net then they would otherwise be IRL gives them cred.
It wasn't like that in the beginning, but all the big boards are full of cunts now. Most smaller boards and >>19701 have helpful people though.
>Also theres the whole GG thing. and /Baph/
/baphomet/ started as a **fun** edgelord place, it's pretty much dead now, GG was popular as fuarrrk back then but now it's somewhat calmed down and they keep it to their board and the daily thread at /v/.
If you still don't want to go there there's the IRC
#EternalArchive on Rizon

Anonymous 2015-11-22 21:10:15 No.19720

>>19719
ill chill in the IRC, thanks.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 21:43:22 No.19724

Does this mean XDCCing anime is no longer an option? ;___; My way of life is over

Anonymous 2015-11-22 21:54:38 No.19725

I'm afraid there will be underrepresentation amongst Lainons who back upexotic/old OS-es, rare graphics, multimedia and music software/plugins, as majority seem to be concerned mostly about anime (not that it's not important, especially older ones, but everything should be taken under equal consideration)

Anonymous 2015-11-22 22:03:23 No.19727

>>19724
XDCC is already insecure since it plainly displays your IP. It might be safe with a trustworthy VPN, but it's better to help this project. If it works we'll have a virtually unbreakable p2p network full of content.
>>19725
The anti-TPP network started on 8/tech/ (full of weebs) and this idea to make a I2P P2P network started on 8/a/ to archive anime so it's not a surprise. We're contacting other boards and chans though, so hopefully we'll have a soykaf ton of non-anime stuff as well.

Anonymous 2015-11-22 23:38:06 No.19731

So we should start using ipfs it already has a bunch of plugins that work great and you can host things like images on your site and have it display for anyone who is running ipfs.

Anonymous 2015-11-23 01:32:31 No.19734

>>19725
>>19727
>back upexotic/old OS-es, rare graphics, multimedia and music software/plugins
my waifu knows of a healthy collection - she will be of help. She has been expecting this call for yrs!

Anonymous 2015-11-23 11:21:44 No.19744

>>19731
I have heard things about ipfs being in many cases highly undependable and buggy.

Is your experience different?

>>19725
I for one would back up anime under pressure, but sooner than it a good book or peice of software.

But to each his own.

Anonymous 2015-11-23 15:53:44 No.19745

>>19744
>I have heard things about ipfs being in many cases highly undependable and buggy.
Haven't used it yet, but it's still alpha so bugs are expected. The guy is trying to get it working with I2P and making it better so I'm hoping it'll be good enough soon.

Anonymous 2015-11-23 16:57:37 No.19747

>>19744
ive been using it for a bit and it works well. you can find some sites that anons have been filling with links to videos and cool stuff.

The videos stream pretty fuarrrking fast and you can even use vlc to watch them.

i can see a lot of websites similar to animeflavor.me moving to hosting on ipfs and getting a seedbox to seed all the videos like that

Anonymous 2015-11-24 00:47:51 No.19760

Anybody have good books about producing food in the wilderness, or creating a permanent remote settlement with agriculture?

Anonymous 2015-11-24 03:15:51 No.19764

File: 1448334951410-0.pdf (6.85 MB, Long Term Survival Guide.pdf)

File: 1448334951410-1.pdf (11.99 MB, Micro Eco-Farming Complete.pdf)

>>19760
I think I have a few.

Anonymous 2015-11-24 19:33:22 No.19790

Update
Compression discussion: https://8ch.net/eternalarchive/res/263.html#373

Uploading to: http://tracker2.postman.i2p

Continue to check https://8ch.net/eternalarchive/ for more

Anonymous 2015-11-28 23:43:49 No.20092

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>>19652
Kinda a newfag to all this, but i would like to try help.

What should I be downloading, the application, music, e-book
Etc. Or the actual .torrent file?

Anonymous 2015-11-29 01:51:08 No.20095

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>>19652
What I will share when my internet is better:
>hacked team files
>all of the defcon torrents up to-date
>tens of thousands of ebooks from my website
>a stack of videos ranging from anime to popular tv series like bobs burgers, breaking bad, V (not the 1980 edition), and japanese cinema. More to come
>For games, add an extra 200gb

Anonymous 2015-11-29 04:20:30 No.20100

>>20095
all in one torrent, or neatly organized?

I might want some of this.

Anonymous 2015-11-29 04:50:58 No.20101

I've got me a fresh install of Plebian with the Xfce DE.

wat do

Anonymous 2015-11-29 05:49:27 No.20103

>>20100
Neatly organized. I hate information clutter. Even the dokument and gentooman library have been organized, renamed better, and had duplicates deleted. Luckily I made a script that applied a html wrap around the files for the website, otherwise it would have taken me a month instead of ten seconds. I can organize it into one single torrent though, takes a minute to move the folder.

Anonymous 2015-11-29 05:51:10 No.20105

>>20101
Store it and seed it to others. You'll probably never use it.

Anonymous 2015-11-29 08:36:31 No.20111

>>20103
>I hate information clutter
I've got the opposite deal goin' on. I love having folders inside of unrelated folders and completely useless file names. It makes finding any particular file a trip through a decade of forumboard posting, archive keeping, picture saving, and file stashing. It's completely impractical from a usability perspective, but that's why I love it so much. Finding something is like trying to find it in an ever-changing dimension of my own distant memories.
I put some work into a Perl script that scrambles directory contents a while back and it's sitting around waiting to be finished. Coming to an .autostart near you!

Anonymous 2015-11-29 08:51:52 No.20113

>>20111
Bookmark this thread anon because I will be checking up regularly for you to post links for the script. It might come in handy at some point for me.

Anonymous 2015-11-29 11:07:03 No.20120

I'd love to help out and seed some of my stuff but I'm worried about my own security

How do bittorrent and p2p work over i2p and why doesn't it have the same problems as bittorent over Tor?
Will running a p2p client on Tails OS configured to connect through i2p also not suffer from these issues or will it compromise the Tor network and myself in some way?

Anonymous 2015-11-29 11:41:10 No.20121

>>20120
Tor does not work really well with bittorrent. I am not sure all of the details of why but basically bittorrent clients tend to run and jump around TOR and make direct connexions to peers outside the network.

I2P is built to work with bittorrent, and has its own internal system for doing torrents. As far as I know you cannot use i2p to torrent except within i2p, so it has some limitations, but the anonymitiy of it is sound.

If you run i2p on tails there will be no problems for the TOR network because you are using I2P. They are different entities and do not effect eachother directly. Tails can use both, and you will be as at risk from torrenting over i2p on Tails as you would be from running i2p over Tails without torrents.

Anonymous 2015-11-29 12:54:42 No.20125

>>20111
I would freak out if my files weren't carefully organized

Anonymous 2015-11-29 22:02:29 No.20148

Can anyone recommend some HDDs i can pick up online?
preferably quite cheep, since i would like to get a good few of them.

Anonymous 2015-11-30 12:50:53 No.20195

When is the deadline for TPP?

I will also join when I got more time (much going on in school at the moment) and got my RS to work...

I will try to fix everything before sunday

Anonymous 2015-11-30 12:56:52 No.20196

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>>19652
Also everything feels like this... But I will join in case of

Anonymous 2015-11-30 14:11:42 No.20199

>>20148
As dodgy as it sounds, visit secondhand computer sellers. I had 2 80gb drives I got in a computer worth $60 and they ran for a good 2-3 years. They actually still run and I have the same computer still, which works. It runs manjaro because I kinda like it, but I never use it because
>80gb
It's a hgst(am I remembering the letters right?), the brand that merged with WD.

Anonymous 2015-11-30 18:20:16 No.20212

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>>20199
>Save All The Things
>80Gb
(pic related)

Every anon should make it duty to at least grab, BACKUP, and share 1TB of stuff.

Bonus points for:
Rare stuff,
Software,
Source Code,
Plugins,
Music,
OS's,
Books,
Info,
Historical things/versions.

Minus points for:
Lame mainstream films (they become irrelevent as soon as the publicity dies) + lots of Data for little gain. (recomend only going for films older than say 3 yrs - that way your selecting the best with better perspective.) - e.g. don't need Transformers or the Hulk, etc.
Lame TV series (same)
Also, would be ashame if this project just yeilded 100000000hrs of Anime.

>Grab the Gold, Covet the Silver, Drop the Bronze.

Anonymous 2015-11-30 21:51:16 No.20221

got around 600GB of music, 400gb of which is heavy metal, only problem is, I have a bandwith cap of 700gb up and down a month

Anonymous 2015-11-30 22:28:05 No.20222

>>i2p up and running, soon also sharing torrents...

I am hoarding as fuarrrk now, mostly pr0n...

Anyhow, I am looking for good movie collections.

I like animation (kung fu panda), anime, comedy and some classics like fightclub / hackers etc...

Does anyone got any collection to recomend?

Anonymous 2015-11-30 22:43:54 No.20223

I think I'll grab myself all of Squarepusher, Flashbulb, Clark, and perhaps the Warp Records and Rephlex torrents from rutracker.

I'm not sure to see this as a threat or an opportunity regarding Anime. Should getting it become hard, it would be my chance to quit. However, I do feel like archiving at least Texhnolyze, and perhaps Boogiepop, Lain and Rahxephon. Ergo Proxy maybe. With soundtracks of course!

However I don't see myself sharing all this over i2p at 120 kilobytes a second, so think of this post as a recommendation instead.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 01:11:10 No.20229

im getting Network: Firewalled even tho i added my udp port from confignet to both incoming and outgoing firewall.
any tips?

Anonymous 2015-12-01 01:52:48 No.20230

>>20221
Flac or mp3?

Anonymous 2015-12-01 02:39:16 No.20231

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>>20092
We're preparing for the worst case, so the file itself. If TPP goes as we're fearing the cops will crack down on people pirating, making torrents really unsafe.
>>20111
>I put some work into a Perl script that scrambles directory contents
Jesus Christ anon. I think my pictures folder is already unorganized as fuarrrk even with the pics being separated into folders though it's messy as soykaf as of now.
>>20120
>I'd love to help out and seed some of my stuff but I'm worried about my own security
If you can wait a while IPFS will support I2P and I2PD soon. It's better and safer than torrents.
>>20195
Around January IIRC.
>>20196
It pretty much is. It's kinda like nuclear-war fear. We don't know when the nukes will come, or if they'll ever come, but we'll still build a bunker full of korean cartoons.
>>20222
>I am hoarding as fuarrrk now, mostly pr0n...
sharing is caring, anon.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 03:34:03 No.20233

>>20223
>ergo proxy
pls <3

Anonymous 2015-12-01 04:11:14 No.20236

>>20230

seriously? We need files we can trust and in the highest possible quality. mp3 is not FOSS and also lossy. The whole reason this archive exists is because we will not be able to trust non-FOSS software and clearnet once TPP passes; hell, we can barely trust it now.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 18:01:43 No.20245

>>20236
Is it worth converting mp3s to FLAC?
If so what is recommended app? (can it batch process through multiple folders and create a mirrored structure but output as FLAC?

Anonymous 2015-12-01 18:13:02 No.20250

>>20245
Don't convert mp3 to FLAC. mp3 is lossy and can't be upconverted.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 18:47:23 No.20251

>>20250
I imagine you want to convert your MP3's to a lossless format because you'll be copying and sharing them a lot. i.e. you don't want to lose any more data in the process.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 20:32:55 No.20254

>>20250
I know this - but if the archive does not want mp3 then kiss good bye to LOTS of music.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 21:00:26 No.20255

>>20245
avoid doing so at all costs
if you end up doing it anyway, make sure you leave a comment in metadata that the source if mp3 and perhaps even say it in the file name
the whole point of people getting stuff in flac is that they can be relatively sure that it comes from an original source (or can likely verify with tools)
mp3s can come from the same original source, or converted from some other format, or converted from another format converted from mp3, or ripped from youtube, etc. it's hard to tell - with flac rips, you usually have some safety regarding the source, because the average joes who rip their music from youtube with xxxyoututubexxxmp3xxxripper.com would never use flac anyway, because "mp3 is the best!"

Anonymous 2015-12-01 21:11:10 No.20257

>>20251
Please tell me that this is sarcasm.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 21:12:15 No.20258

>>20230
If you need a lossy format, use Opus.
Avoid MP3 like the cancer that is it.

Anonymous 2015-12-01 21:17:16 No.20259

>>20245
>If so what is recommended app?
>app
It is called a program.
You want FFmpeg.

>can it batch process through multiple folders and create a mirrored structure but output as FLAC?
With a Bash script.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 00:11:47 No.20265

Data can be lost through compression and multiple copies, as this VHS copying experiment illustrates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mES3CHEnVyI

Stick with high quality source files that are FOSS and therefore can be observed.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 00:27:13 No.20266

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>>19661
I wish punks weren't dead...
All that exist now are sheeple, people who disagree but do nothing and SJWs who think that they're punks but are actually petty authoritarians trying to get people arrested for the way they act and speak.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 00:38:38 No.20267

What seedboxes do you guys use? I see an abnormally high number of peers from the Czech Republic, probably a lot of seedboxes there.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 00:41:33 No.20268

Anyone know of a good way to download all the documentation ever? I mean documentation for things like the linux kernel, gcc, clang, ffmpeg, firefox, that kind of stuff.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 01:26:15 No.20269

>>20254
What kind of music do you currently have in MP3?

Anonymous 2015-12-02 01:33:38 No.20270

>>20268
All the documentation for Linux is in the git repository.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 02:41:01 No.20272

>>20259
app is short for application... its a legit term.

Anonymous 2015-12-02 09:54:45 No.20287

>>20231
>If you can wait a while IPFS will support I2P and I2PD soon.
Really? That's neat. And very good news.
Is the idea to ultimately have the whole archive p2p network running through IPFS over I2P?

Anonymous 2015-12-02 13:03:33 No.20290

>>20287
>Is the idea to ultimately have the whole archive p2p network running through IPFS over I2P?
Yes. If everything goes as planned we'll have a mesh-net made out of porn, vidya, actually important soykaf and weeb soykaf .

Anonymous 2015-12-02 13:45:50 No.20291

>>20290
>If everything goes as planned we'll have a mesh-net made out of porn, vidya, actually important soykaf and weeb soykaf.

with the real order being porn, weeb, vidya, other useless shit[1..23], actually important stuff.

Is there some darknet without the soykaf which is just loaded with information like the wired in sel? or some kind of filter to block the useless shit? I want to have this feeling again of a whole world of knowledge at my fingertips. without lewd anime girls and porn ads everywhere.

sorry for off topic

Anonymous 2015-12-02 21:18:13 No.20310

>>20291
>with the real order being porn, weeb, vidya, other useless shit[1..23], actually important stuff.
>neurosuggesting weeb soykaf isn't going to be the most abundant
> I want to have this feeling again of a whole world of knowledge at my fingertips. without lewd anime girls and porn ads everywhere.
I haven't used IPFS yet so I can't say, but I think there will be an easy way to filter shit, so probably yes.

Anonymous 2015-12-03 03:13:46 No.20327

>>20196
even if it blows over like sopa did, I think we ought to get rolling on a censorship-resistant alternet anyway instead of playing whack-a-mole with governments like we do now. Ideally I'd work on eternalarchive over a mesh network but I don't think anyone near me is into /cyb/ stuff, so I'd be a node with no connections :/

Anonymous 2015-12-03 03:18:06 No.20328

>>20266
welcome to archivepunk, lainon.

Anonymous 2015-12-03 16:09:56 No.20366

>>19676
>Obama
>Socialist

Pick one

Anonymous 2015-12-07 07:12:23 No.20664

>>20607
Good post.

Anonymous 2015-12-13 23:17:20 No.21274

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>>20327
>>19652
My feelings about the interenet past, present and future (webM related).

>Save All The Things
>The gets will be just a memory

Anonymous 2015-12-14 00:37:40 No.21278

>>19652
Why does i2p need java to run of all things? That makes it really unsecure.

Anonymous 2015-12-14 04:02:12 No.21288

It says a lot that the i2p infographic refers to Tor as "TOR".

Saying that i2p is more secure than Tor is laughable. Tor is probably one of the most studied and well-maintained codebases in the history of programming. It's not designed for anonymous services, but the people working on it are much smarter, much better equipped, and have much better track records than the random sketchy /g/entoomen writing an anonymity network in fuarrrking Java.

Just look at the i2p codebase sometime and marvel at the nest of 0day it is. Small enough to easily sybill as well.

I really wish that Freenet would get some love. It's written by people that are in the same community as the Tor devs, they're highly technically competent, and Freenet has been the haven for pedos since its inception. Sadly, because it's so small it's now possible to sybil attack as well, so we're starting to see that.

Another option is GNUNet -- less proven than Freenet and so less content, built by highly competent people, but with less scrutiny on the codebase.

>bracing for people who have never written a line of code to tell me I'm wrong

Anonymous 2015-12-14 04:04:26 No.21289

>>19662
Kalyx is by necessity not anonymous. Don't fuarrrk with zem by planning illegal soykaf on zir board. It's not hard to get your own communication infrastructure and you can still recruit on lainchan.

Anonymous 2015-12-14 04:14:59 No.21292

>>20120
>>20121

Spend a little bit on a VPN that has a good Torrentfreak rating for not storing your data. Even if torrenting becomes criminal, they won't have the data to prove anything about you.

The Tor Project discourages using BitTorrent over Tor because BitTorrent parallelizes file downloads by creating lots of connections to download a small amount of data. Because of inefficiencies in the way Tor allocates connections to Tor circuits (a set of 3 nodes you relay traffic through), this can induce a LOT of strain on the network. I think there was a big incident a few years back when Vuze tried to bundle Tor.

i2p doesn't have a 1:1 mapping of circuits to connections, because everything in i2p is some loosy-goosey guess-it-might-work bull soykaf . I've never thought a lot about how this works with torrents, but especially given how smaller the i2p network is compared to Tor (sybil city!), what it probably equates to is that you'd get a fanout of circuits that essentially deanoymize the connection.

>>21278
i2p is written in Java. Most of the Java vulnerabilities are in the Java web plugin, because sandboxing is hard. This doesn't mean that programs written in Java are insecure.

That said, it does say a little about your developer proficiency if they can't allocate their own memory... see the Tor source code for some excellently designed, tight and secure systems programming.

Anonymous 2015-12-14 23:39:50 No.21341

Bumping to spread awareness that i2p is shit

Anonymous 2015-12-14 23:48:27 No.21343

>>21341
List problems with i2p so we can be aware of them.

List avalible solutions, or possible future solutions.

>>21289
Sure not using Lainchan as the plotting device, but as a discusion about such things, should be ok... but just looking and partaking in such a thread might make you interesting to some powers.
>+1 for TOR posting (no images)

Anonymous 2015-12-15 00:00:16 No.21344

>>21288
Nice - pitty I had hoped i2p was more than that... Your sure its basicly not even worth it? (we need proper security and strength)

Freenet looks ok, but it does need more content. - So should there be a call out to all chans to move data to Freenet? (is there an ABC graffic for Freenet (including hosting/serving files)?

Wot do?

Anonymous 2015-12-15 00:08:24 No.21346

>>21288
I was almost with you until you mentioned the line of code thing. That was a bit unnecessary and pretentious. Trying not to be offensive here.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 02:09:47 No.21352

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>>21288
>bracing for people who have never written a line of code to tell me I'm wrong
I wrote some programs in Atari BASIC and I was one of the first Cub Scouts ever to win the new computer badge when it as introduced. Am I allowed to say you're wrong?

Anonymous 2015-12-15 05:25:19 No.21364

>>21352
No, only enlightened SICP-reading EXPERT PROGRAMMERS and of course 10x ENTERPRISE GRADE SCALABLE SOLUTION HACKERS are allowed to tell me I'm wrong, and even then, only when they show me i2p's code review policy and a proof that it would cost more than a few grand an an hour on ec2 to sybil attack it.

>>21346
Lainchan is for well reasoned well argued discussion of /cyb/ and /cyb/ accessories. It's not a hugbox. And the level of competence of the average i2p user is literal soykaf /g/ tier.

>>21344
i2p is definitely not worth it. Freenet is incredibly slow, but is actually censorship-proof: there's virtually no way for a file to be destroyed from the network. The problem with freenet is that it doesn't have enough capacity to avoid sybill attacks now, and I've heard of it being actively attacked (because it was so secure and because a link never died on it, it was and is VERY popular for cp distribution).

So, maybe if we could increase Freenet's resilience by a few orders of magnitude. I'll try to dig up some dox on the cops attacking it when I'm back at my Navi.

>>21343
See
>>21288
>>21292
Also, its Tor, not TOR. Mother fuarrrk. Go read the last 5 years of PET symposium archives and come back when you have a clue. Did mommy buy you a 'puter for Christmas or something? Geez.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 06:49:43 No.21365

>>21364
>Lainchan is for well reasoned well argued discussion of /cyb/ and /cyb/ accessories
>Sentence literally translated to "I'm better than all of you because I can code"
No you obviously can't. You don't code, you program. Your programming contains code, there's a significant difference. That's like writing <stdio.h> on a piece of paper and saying "look ma, I'm a programmer!" when you just wrote one piece of code. But of course I don't expect you to understand this because of your elitist attitude.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 07:31:07 No.21368

>>21288
>>21364
I'd just like to point out that I2P does not claim to be resistant to sybil. See https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/network-database#sybil and https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/threat-model#sybil.
From the first link (updated December 2015):
>Some possible responses [to Sybil attacks] for the I2P network are listed below, however none of them is completely satisfactory

And from the second (last updated in 2010):
>We currently have not implemented any particular technique to address Sybil

I'm not trying to say you are wrong about its vulnerability to Sybil, but criticizing it for not protecting against an attack it doesn't claim to protect against is idiotic.

Also, Tor has had its fair share of vulnerabilities, so its not perfect either. See >>21294 and, for a more recent example http://news.mit.edu/2015/tor-vulnerability-0729.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 08:15:34 No.21369

>>21368
>not realizing that resistance to sybill attacks is a function of the number of legitimate nodes and their proportional bandwidth/resource contribution in the network
>not knowing that literally every peer to peer system is in principle vulnerable to sybill attacks
>not knowing that the practical expense compared to other attacks is what prevents sybill attacks
>not understanding that even local LEA can perform sybill attacks if the network allows it because of how dirt simple it is

Are you stoned or stupid? Come back when you can beat level 5 on hackthissite.com.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 08:16:57 No.21370

>>21368
Also thanks for linking me to my own post mother fuarrrker, lulz were had.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 08:29:05 No.21373

>>21364
It's not like these p2p networks magically come with hordes of users to resist sybil attacks. Freenet sounds way better than i2p, so personally I will start adopting and contributing as soon as possible. Feel free to join...
>>21365
Please stop with the pedantry. I realize calling you out isn't much better, but I can't help myself; it contributes nothing.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 08:55:19 No.21377

>>21369
>>not realizing that resistance to sybill attacks is a function of the number of legitimate nodes and their proportional bandwidth/resource contribution in the network
Of course I realize that. It even says in the links I posted:
>This attack becomes more difficult as the network size grows.

>>not knowing that literally every peer to peer system is in principle vulnerable to sybill attacks
I understand that, but there are ways to make it more difficult, some of which are referenced in the links I posted.

>>not knowing that the practical expense compared to other attacks is what prevents sybill attacks
That is applicable to every other attack on any system. Why would an attacker use one attack if there is another attack available at lower practical expense?

>>not understanding that even local LEA can perform sybill attacks if the network allows it because of how dirt simple it is
I can't tell if you mean that local LEA can perform Sybil attacks if the network allows any Sybil attacks, or local LEA can perform SYbil attacks if the network allows local LEA to perform them. If the former, then you are wrong. See: your first point. As the network grows larger, local law enforcement will not have the resources to perform the attack. If the latter, then obviously local LEA can perfrom the attack if the network allows local LEA to perform the attack; to say anything else would be nonsensical.

>Are you stoned or stupid?
Neither. Are you a troll or just a giant fuarrrking asshole?

>hackthissite.com
So l33t.

>>21370
You're welcome. And if you understand some of Tor's vulnerabilities, why are you so quick to defend it as though it is a perfect network. >>21288 makes it sound like Tor is fuarrrking perfect for everything, which you obviously know is not the case.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 10:45:04 No.21379

>>21373
But some of them don't have shitty design. i2p has no userbase for a reason.

>>21377
Tor is without question the best implemented, most secure anonymity system in existence today. Nothing else even comes close because Tor is both the subject of massive amounts of research, and is developed by talented experts with great process and management. Obviously it has vulnerabilities, but very rarely are these exploitable, and they're found fast and patched immediately. Virtually every Tor vulnerability you hear about is patched before you hear about it. The Snowden leaks admitted that the NSA could compromise some Tor users some times, but couldn't break the network fully and possibly never were able to.

Think about all the research that's gone into Tor, all the attacks proposed and defended against, all the hardening and review and eyes on the code. Seriously, have you read the Tor code? It's fuarrrking beautiful. Now think of all the time i2p has been around, studied by nobody, hacked on by some pseudonymous hobbyists. There's literally no comparison.

>Are you a troll or just a giant fuarrrking asshole

Obviously both, and I'm also far more knowledgeable about this than you, and that's entirely your own fault because this isn't even my area of expertise. Did you read the papers I posted or just link me to them to try to shore up your argument?

>fücking casuals

Anonymous 2015-12-15 15:55:55 No.21385

>>21379
>>21377
>>21369

2: Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks.
3: You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf.
4: Don't respond with aggression to perceived flames or trolls (or at all.)

Let's not let kuntishness ruin an interesting discussion.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 17:03:35 No.21388

Anyone on URC in I2P?
Is there any cool URC channels?
Anyone have some I2P stickers? I have a few left and I put them up in my town.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 17:20:59 No.21390

>>21379
>Nothing else even comes close because Tor is both the subject of massive amounts of research, and is developed by talented experts with great process and management.
If nothing else ever gets visibility, nothing else will get researched. i2p has had a small amount of research and can benefit from some of Tor's research (https://geti2p.net/en/research), but I agree that it is
not enough to be completely confident in the network.

>Virtually every Tor vulnerability you hear about is patched before you hear about it.
But how long did an atacker know about it? A vulnerability is a vulnerability, regardless of how it quickly it gets patched. And addressing your point in >>21288 about i2p being a nest of 0days, there are other,
non-java implementations, like i2pd. That being said, all software is going to have vulnerabilities, and neither of the networks is in a final state where problems cannot be fixed.

>that's entirely your own fault
It is, but unfortunately I cannot spend all my time at home reading about anonymity networks, although I would love to. I have other things to do in life, so I learn what I can when I can. I'm not tryin
g to imply that you are a NEET who spends all day reading about Tor, and based on your level of knowledge it does not seem unlikely that someone would hire you for something.

>Did you read the papers I posted
I have read what I could so far, but I had a final exam yesterday and I have another later today, so I have been focused on studying. I will read more when I get time. Just to be clear, I'm not >>21312
if thats what you think.

Clearly, you are very knowledgeable about Tor. Still, it's not perfect, and I suggest you read i2p's comparison between itself and Tor (https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor) to see some benefits of i2p over Tor. It also gives benefits of Tor over i2p, but you seem to already be familiar with those. It will take you five minutes, and might help you see my perspective. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to say Tor os bad,
I use it frequently, I'm just trying to point out that i2p is not as terrible as you are trying to say it is.

>>21385
You're right, I'm sorry. It was 4 a.m. when I wrote >>21377 and I was tired. I will try not to let it happen again. I'm surprised I and >>21379 have not both been derezzed .

Anyways, I have a final to study for, and I think we could all use a break, so I'm going to leave this thread for a while. If you want to argue with this post, go ahead, but it will be a while before I respond.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 17:22:44 No.21391

>>21390
Not sure what happened with all the newlines there, I guess it's because I wrote it in vim. Sorry.

Anonymous 2015-12-15 23:46:15 No.21414

>>21390
>But how long did an atacker know about it? A vulnerability is a vulnerability, regardless of how it quickly it gets patched. And addressing your point in >>21288 about i2p being a nest of 0days, there are other,
non-java implementations, like i2pd. That being said, all software is going to have vulnerabilities, and neither of the networks is in a final state where problems cannot be fixed.

Well, what's the ratio of malicious versus benevolent attackers for i2p and Tor? Again, Tor has a massive community and is used for a LOT of research. For every paper you see published in a top tier venue about Tor, naïvely we can expect 5-10 more that didn't make it in because USENIX ATC/SOSP/Oakland have 10-20% acceptance rates. Maybe less. For each paper, that's 2-3 PhD students or post docs that are eyes on the Tor codebase. How many people look at the i2p codebase in a day? Orders of magnitude less. There is really no comparison.

So, we can expect vulnerabilities to have a MUCH shorter window in Tor than in i2p. This matters a lot, because if you're a targeted user and you're smart about picking guard nodes, you can go months without being vulnerable to many attacks (that require being the guard node).

>It is, but unfortunately I cannot spend all my time at home reading about anonymity networks, although I would love to. I have other things to do in life, so I learn what I can when I can. I'm not trying to imply that you are a NEET who spends all day reading about Tor, and based on your level of knowledge it does not seem unlikely that someone would hire you for something.

I learned most of what I know about anonymity systems by reading papers in high school and then just keeping an on the Tor mailing list. It's really easy to grasp with just a little bit of probability knowledge and an understanding of how networks work you can get from Wikipedia. Anonymity systems are not my career area but they're also very easy to be involved with. (I also had the opportunity to hack on Tor for an unrelated project, which was such a pleasure, one of my all time favorite codebases.)

My point is, you're probably smarter than 17yo me, so really, just do it.

>>21391
Lol vimmer

Personally I'd feel very disappointed in lainchan if I got derezzed for aggressively bantering (via quotes from seminal cyberpunk film no less) while dropping more knowledge than the rest of he thread combined, I feel like kalyx understands the difference between brewing soykaf and being a smart asshole. Any good luck on the exam lainon.

Anonymous 2015-12-17 09:58:45 No.21480

>>21414
>So, we can expect vulnerabilities to have a MUCH shorter window in Tor than in i2p.
I will concede that point.

>if ... you're smart about picking guard nodes
I did not realize there is a way for the user to pick their guard node, I though it was always done automatically unless you use a bridge. Can you elaborate, or provide a link to instructions? This is very interesting.

>I learned most of what I know about anonymity systems by reading papers in high school and then just keeping an on the Tor mailing list.
That's basically what I've been doing for the past few months, ever since I learned what the Snowden leaks were about, and got enough background knowledge to understand this stuff. When they first came out, I had no idea what they were and didn't give a shit, so I didn't learn about them until about a year ago.

>My point is, you're probably smarter than 17yo me, so really, just do it.
Thanks, I'm doing my best.

>Lol vimmer
I only recently started using it and barely know it, so I wouldn't really call myself a "vimmer."

>good luck on the exam lainon
Thanks. I got a D on the exam but passed the class, and it was my hardest class, so I'm happy about it.

Unrelated to Tor and I2P, has anyone ever implemented bittorrent on a meshnet? Is that feasible? If so, we could possibly combine our TPP hoarding efforts with the Lainet project from >>21224, making a sort of private torrenting network of just lainchan users. I don't know much about how bittorrent or meshnets work though, so if this is a terrible idea or has already been done, please say so.

Anonymous 2015-12-17 19:44:27 No.21502

>>19714
If familiarity breeds liking, and people trust anything that looks familiar, then the only thing stormfront really needs to successfully brainwash all of 8ch is persistence. If nothing else, people will become desensitized to fascism.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 06:02:39 No.21523

>>21480
>I did not realize there is a way for the user to pick their guard node, I though it was always done automatically unless you use a bridge. Can you elaborate, or provide a link to instructions? This is very interesting.

Tor clients are in control of picking the entire path. I'm not sure what the actual flag is to set guards, but at the very least you could use a controller to manually set your guards.

I might look through the source and see exactly how next week sometime, too busy to lainchan when I'm not pooping this week.

>Unrelated to Tor and I2P, has anyone ever implemented bittorrent on a meshnet? Is that feasible

Are you familiar with TCP/IP layers? Meshnets are physical-media, framing, and routing protocols, so assuming the meshnet can encapsulate IP at the end of the day, you can run anything that uses IP on a meshnet. I don't know about all meshnets, but I'm sure the bigger ones encapsulate IP. It wouldn't really make sense otherwise.

That said, would a meshnet provide low enough latency for bittorrent to really get anywhere is the real question.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 06:03:15 No.21524

>>21502
Too fuarrrking true. Look at where we are today.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 10:25:14 No.21531

>>21523
>Are you familiar with TCP/IP layers?
I am, but I wasn't sure how it would be applicable to meshnets. Thanks for explaining that. Would that mean that bittorrent is at the transport layer? I looked at the Wikipedia page, but it does not say.

>That said, would a meshnet provide low enough latency for bittorrent to really get anywhere is the real question.
I've never used one, do they tend to be slow? And if so, would torrenting be any slower than just directly downloading it from one person on the meshnet? I don't see why it would be, unless there are a lot of leechers and few seeders.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 12:56:49 No.21533

>>21531
BitTorrent is the application layer. TCP is the Transport later. Bittorrent is over TCP and UDP, idrk which and it might use both.

>I've never used one, do they tend to be slow? And if so, would torrenting be any slower than just directly downloading it from one person on the meshnet? I don't see why it would be, unless there are a lot of leechers and few seeders.

It depends on the routing protocol. If your mesh has high overhead/latency per connection, making lots of connections that have low throughput and short lives might very well be slower than just downloading a single file at the maximum throughput you can achieve on the network.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 14:57:07 No.21538

>>21533
I'm 90% sure bittorrent is udp only

Anonymous 2015-12-18 20:24:35 No.21551

>>21538
It doesn't always have to be UDP. Case and point, you can SSH tunnel bittorrent (TCP only) so long as you have a non-UDP tracker.

Anonymous 2015-12-18 23:46:08 No.21560

>>21538
Could be; you can use SOCKS proxies with bittorrent though, and if the mesh supports IP it doesn't matter.

Anonymous 2015-12-19 03:46:46 No.21580

>>20269
Not him but nearly all my music is like that.

Anonymous 2015-12-19 06:39:49 No.21593

>>20290
is there a reason IPFS was picked over Tahoe-LAFS? just curious.

Anonymous 2015-12-19 06:44:40 No.21594

>>21274
Exactly. (also, saved.)

Anonymous 2015-12-25 15:57:45 No.21923

reminder, you can download the entire library genesis book collection over torrents

Anonymous 2015-12-26 06:08:36 No.21952

>>20290
Can a user choose to use Tor? Or is it limited to i2p?

kalyx ###### 2015-12-26 09:06:56 No.21956

Someone try to post through Tor please..

Anonymous 2015-12-26 09:46:38 No.21957

>>21956
>Your IP address is listed in tor.dnsbl.sectoor.de.

Anonymous 2015-12-26 14:36:56 No.21959

>>21956
Go to a test board kalyx why would you post that here?

Anonymous 2015-12-26 14:54:16 No.21960

>>21959
>>21957
>>21956
it still doesn't work so nbd

Anonymous 2015-12-26 22:53:06 No.21973

>>21956
You banning tor now?

kalyx ###### 2015-12-27 00:19:01 No.21975

>>21973
quite the opposite.

Anonymous 2015-12-27 03:29:11 No.21981

>>21956
yes

Masami Eiri 2015-12-27 09:24:54 No.21997

I have a lot of PDF files ranging from android to woodworking. 7gb, about 10,000 + files. I would try to increase that collection. Is it good enough?

Armitage 2015-12-27 12:13:37 No.22000

>>21997
Give us a magnet link plox

Karl Haushofer 2015-12-27 13:45:26 No.22004

>>21997
>>22000
This

Also >>22000
Checked and Blessed!

Mentat 2015-12-28 04:27:53 No.22048

I have a bunch of rare music in MP3 (they were only distributed as such, early 00s music that was only released on filesharing networks, no commercial release.) What should I do with them?

Linda Lee 2015-12-28 04:36:17 No.22049

>>22048
share them of course. i personally use flavs but mp3s are pretty good. some lainanons wont like it but the whole point it to share the most we can

Emmanuel 2015-12-28 04:39:26 No.22050

>>22048
You could make a torrent for us and upload it to archive.org for everyone else.
And whatever they're doing at 8/eternalarchive/.

Hacker 2015-12-28 05:20:08 No.22055

>>22050
it seems rather slow over there

Masami Eiri 2015-12-28 07:54:04 No.22059

4gb are uploaded on Google Drive. Those are used by the normie quizzer squad. The topics are Electrical Engineering, Mathematics, and Engineering Science. 3gb are not yet uploaded.
>>22004
>>22000

The Plague 2015-12-28 09:16:39 No.22061

>>19669
The TPP, yes, it's going to become mired in the politics of the elections and nobody is going to want to put ink on anything generating that much controversy. It'll likely be defeated, SOPA style, as a result but this soykaf is a Lazarus that'll inevitably slip through in a new form. The powers that be simply have resources to keep up the fight longer. Ergo, we take everything and move it somewhere else.

Neo 2015-12-28 14:08:24 No.22071

File: 1451311704951.pdf (204.56 KB, 13087631-How-to-Bury-a-Gun….pdf)

Would you guys be interested in the /k/ library? Physical sec, some field manuals, etc. Here's an example:

Dr. X 2015-12-29 01:47:41 No.22085

>>22071
The Do/k/ument and Mega Folder?

Crash Override 2015-12-29 01:58:13 No.22086

got 5 2 TB drives full of everything
a lot of music, books, tutorials, everything usable for ppl when warez will be killed

Ein 2015-12-29 02:02:09 No.22087

>>22086
Its useless unless you host it, though. 10TB of information sitting on your hard drive does nothing for the general public.

Morpheus 2015-12-29 02:58:42 No.22089

>>22085

Bingo

Cowboy 2015-12-29 03:27:19 No.22090

>>22085
Do you have the full Do/k/ument? The torrent is stuck at 96%.

f4294ed6278a78be6200131044a7e058017c2dbf

Nell 2015-12-29 06:35:45 No.22092

>>22090
The dokument has never gone past 96%

Ein 2015-12-30 14:16:12 No.22149

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So lets fill this up then. I want to expand on my extremely disorganized library. Anyone happen to have 8tb of knowledge to share?

Linda Lee 2015-12-30 14:31:01 No.22150

>>22149
would that 34 (TB) drive be Library Genesis?

Cutter 2015-12-31 01:59:23 No.22171

>>22150
This. Where can I find libgen now that it's gone?

The Plague 2015-12-31 02:55:05 No.22172

>>22149
>>22150
if it is you must upload it to ipfs in a manageable/browsable way

Cypher 2015-12-31 04:14:44 No.22175

>>22171
its not gone last i checked. you can get to the site through a non us proxy (tor works good) and there should be torrent and database dumps. if they arent there then i can dump what i have.

Mitnick 2015-12-31 04:16:21 No.22177

>>22172
not that anon, but how ipfs currently works it takes the original files and cuts them up into blocks, which end up on the system. you would need double the storage to back them up on ipfs currently.

Molly Millions 2016-01-03 05:50:20 No.22353

When does soykaf hit the fan?

Jet Black 2016-01-03 10:17:25 No.22359

>>22353
July I believe.

Right now we are watching the agonizingly slow approach of the soykaf towards the fan.

Masami Eiri 2016-01-03 13:25:45 No.22363

>>22359
Why July and what do you think is on the horizon?

Spike Spiegel 2016-01-03 18:56:24 No.22372

>>22175
Libgen isn't down, what're you guys talking about: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

Zhora 2016-01-04 06:13:53 No.22413

>>22372
Have you tried, I don't know, downloading anything from that site?

Switch 2016-01-04 06:35:37 No.22414

>>22413
Not that guy but it's working for me. Randomly looked for a book. You may have to try the bookzz link. It's the only one that seems to work anymore.

Switch 2016-01-04 06:40:55 No.22415

>>22413
>>22414
I've just downloaded something from the libgen.io mirror.

Cypher 2016-01-10 21:40:07 No.22837

>>22414
>>22413
Libgen mirrors are occasionally taken down or changed, so it's not uncommon for one or two of them to 404. I've never had all of them be offline though, and if that was the case I doubt it would last for very long. You were probably extremely unlucky if it happened to you.

Drifter 2016-01-10 23:30:04 No.22843

Am I the only one here who thinks that this whole project is just a sensationalist knee-jerk reaction on /tech/'s part like usual and that nothing is going to change aside from a few sacrificial lambs being v&'d for torrenting music - you know, like what has always happened with things like this?

Bob Arctor 2016-01-11 02:34:37 No.22862

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>>22843
Better safe than sorry.

Tank 2016-01-11 14:41:55 No.22919

I hoard everything anyway. So I'll have some goodies after the bomb hits.

Lady Jessica 2016-01-12 11:00:29 No.22992

>>22085
Mega Folder? Huh?
Can spmeone please tell me what is it?

Miho Iwakura 2016-01-13 14:11:18 No.23092

How broad, numerous is the current content of I2P's Postman tracker?

1. How does the amount of music compare to, let's say that of What.CD?

2. How does the amount of film, games compare to that of, let's say TPB, or KAT?

Cypher 2016-01-15 09:53:11 No.23220

[b]Bump[/b]

>>23092

Lain Iwakura 2016-01-16 04:14:18 No.23265

>>23092
You can find super-popular shows like Evangelion or internet/cyb-related stuff like Serial Experiments Lain, but outside of that it's pretty sparse. Nowhere near TPB or KAT.

Chani 2016-01-16 05:53:21 No.23271

Does your ISP know you are connecting to I2P, I know they know if you connect to TOR and probably could assume the same here. Sorry for the basic bitch question but I gotta know.

Trinity 2016-01-16 09:33:12 No.23277

>>23271
Yes, but they can't know what you use it for. You should download and seed torrents to add noise so they can't even speculate when are you actively using it based on traffic.

Trinity 2016-01-17 09:17:37 No.23323

File: 1453022257171-0.pdf (13.74 MB, Wilderness Survival.pdf)

File: 1453022257171-1.pdf (6.85 MB, A Long-Term Surviving Guid….pdf)

>>19760
Hope these can be of use

HELIOS 2016-01-17 09:19:57 No.23324

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>>19652
Is there a known date for when this might be enacted?

Shogun 2016-01-18 06:31:47 No.23386

>>23324
Nevermind

Cutter 2016-01-19 20:08:09 No.23472

>>23324

mindcontrol in what sense?

The Fin 2016-02-04 12:54:32 No.24452

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It finally happened.

Faye Valentine 2016-02-04 12:58:42 No.24453

>>23277
Torrenting over Tor leaks your IP.

Shogun 2016-02-04 12:59:36 No.24454

Why can't I just use TailsOSfor any copyright infringement I wish to take part in?

Armitage 2016-02-04 13:15:06 No.24455

>>23271
Use a tor bridge to avoid alerting your ISP. (obfsproxy)

Technician 2016-02-04 16:41:29 No.24456

>>19661
If one of you ends up bombing the NSA I wouldn't mourn the loss of life.

Zhora 2016-02-04 17:33:43 No.24459

Well, the moment we've been dreading is here. Question is, did we do enough?

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/obama-just-quietly-signed-the-tpp_022016

Armitage 2016-02-04 18:42:28 No.24460

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>>24459
>did we do enough?

Did we prevent the emerging corporate dystopia and death of the clearnet? Obviously not.

Did we do all we could? I think Sunde was right; the fight for people's hearts was over before it began. Even with the evidence before them, most people simply don't care.

Project 2501 2016-02-04 19:59:37 No.24461

>Even with the evidence before them, most people simply don't care.

What could people do? Complain to local representation?
"Ah jeez it'd be really swell if you didn't do that!"

Zero Cool 2016-02-04 22:23:48 No.24464

>>24460
so what does tpp mean
i cant get my waifu to legally acquire anything anymore?

Czech 2016-02-05 03:29:14 No.24470

>>24460
Can I be honest?

I'm excited for it.

I want to see the oligarchs control everything and once again for properties to emerge the likes of which this world has never seen before.

Tequila 2016-02-05 03:35:22 No.24472

>>24470
Of course you can be honest, it's actually preferable that you are.

That being said, why do you want to watch the world burn? I can understand giving up hope and believing people deserve the future they allowed to happen, but actually being excited about it?

Armitage 2016-02-05 03:36:50 No.24473

>>24470
>>24472
Or are you thinking of it from an accelerationist perspective?

Special Agent Bob 2016-02-05 03:56:31 No.24474

>>21365
>>21346
>>21385
>muh feelings
Ignoring his valid points to tone police is the only thing getting in the way of the discussion, buttmuncher

Czech 2016-02-05 04:04:58 No.24475

>>24472
>>24473
I like to watch change in motion. A dynamic enviroment, especially one with uncertainty, is truly a dream of mine.

I'm really sick of waking up every day and knowing exactly whats going to happen to the note. I want no one to ever feel monotony again. I pray for the end.

Void 2016-02-05 04:27:27 No.24477

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>>24459
>>24452
>>24460
It's not over yet. It has to be ratified by Congress. Once TPP is officially presented to Congress (likely this month or the next), there will be a 30 day period for them to read it. Then TPP is publicly released (remember, the only reason we even know their terms now is because of the leak) and then there will be a 90 day period before the final vote.

That's when the populist phase of the fight begins: make it clear that approving the act is strongly against the wishes of their constituents and turn the vote against TPP.

Keep an eye on EFF's campaign center for easily spread, conveniently streamlined actions when the time comes:
https://act.eff.org/action

A well-researched FP article on the importance of both public opinion and interest group money on the vote's final outcome:
>The TPP Train Could Still Get Derailed
https://archive.is/JeIgL

We can beat this.

Case 2016-02-05 04:27:39 No.24478

>>24475
Vote Trump

Roy Batty 2016-02-05 04:52:08 No.24479

>>24477
Do you know if the EFF will be coming out with good, normie friendly resources? I plan on going door to door and handing out pamphlets.

>>24475
That anon isn't wrong >>24478 if that's what you want. I don't want to tell you what to do, but it sounds like you need to change your lifestyle. Maybe try living in a van as a nomad, moving somewhere new every few days/weeks, working new temp jobs as you travel. Idk.

Special Agent Bob 2016-02-05 06:33:48 No.24481

>>24479
Kalyx does this. Maybe email him and ask for tips.

Lain Iwakura 2016-02-05 06:50:26 No.24482

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>>24464
>i cant get my waifu to legally acquire anything anymore?

Your waifu will be repossessed by the Great West-Pacific Broadcast Confederacy as an illegally derived copy of a protected property. You will have to lease an NHK-certified print of your waifu and your original will be impounded and then destroyed.

Your new, genuine waifu will be under warranty for the duration of your lease, provided you make no illegal alterations (i.e, case mods to hair colour; non-approved behavioural firmware; dissembly of non-user-servicable components; &c&c)

pic related: prohibited content.

BloodCat 2016-02-06 10:26:36 No.24738

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NZ minister gets dildo in face after TPP signing.

Shouting the words “that’s for raping our country,” the woman threw a huge pink rubber penis, hitting Joyce square in the face. Security quickly led her away.

https://www.rt.com/news/331376-tpp-joyce-protest-dildo/

Lady 3Jane.. 2016-02-06 18:50:19 No.24746

>>24738
I love it.

Armitage 2016-02-07 00:47:53 No.24758

just come here in russia. here no laws. no lobbyists.

Neo 2016-02-07 02:11:40 No.24765

>>24482
so where am does my waifu get content now

Masami Eiri 2016-02-07 03:23:59 No.24767

>>24758
As bad as the US is, even the US doesn't go as far as censoring pirating websites and archive.is (for now).

Chani 2016-02-07 05:35:44 No.24769

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>>19652
So now that it's all signed, how long do we have for it to take effect?

How much longer do I have to complete my stockpile?

Spike Spiegel 2016-02-07 07:06:22 No.24771

>tfw recently lost 2tb of data i've been hoarding for 2 years due to drive failure
Couldn't have happened at a worse time.

Splicer 2016-02-07 07:18:58 No.24772

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So are SSDs the best option for long term storage? HDDs seem to die in a few years but the average lifespan of an SSD seems pretty long, especially if you fill it once with all your stuff then only read from it.

I'm not too knowledgeable about hardware though, can anyone verify this.

Czech 2016-02-07 07:40:59 No.24773

>>24772
Solid State Drives corrupt over time, even when not read.

The half life of a hard drive is longer but not practical for extreme storage while running constantly.

The longest lasting, most sturdy option would be magnetic tape. Specialized magnetic tape drives can store archived data almost forever and can be had at capacities of up to 5 tb. The read-write speed is soykaf though.

Rick Deckard 2016-02-07 07:49:36 No.24774

What are your guy's favorite games that are worth archiving? Doesn't have to be cyberpunk, old or modern.

>>24771
A seedbox should help you get things in time. Oh, and seriously, backups.

Czech 2016-02-07 07:52:33 No.24775

>>24774
Fallout 1 and 2; Planetscape Torment, Cube 2, Stalker games.

Roy Batty 2016-02-07 08:10:27 No.24776

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>>24773
So if I were to buy something for long term storage at consumer grade what would you recommend if tape is too expensive and out of the question?

I was looking on newegg and according to spec lists there are some reasonably priced SSDs that last >1,000,000 hours. Is this some bull soykaf number used to move product? Could you give an estimate of what might be a more realistic lifespan for drive that is on 24/7 but is typically only used for reading off files?

Specifically the ADATA SP550 stood out with 5/5.

PS totally not shilling I swear, just looking for advice.

Lord Nikon 2016-02-07 08:16:40 No.24777

>>24774
Yeah, I couldn't back it up. All my drives were full, so I only had that external Segate piece of soykaf I got for Christmas to hoard stuff on. Also, I have about 400kb/s download speed, so I'm not even going to bother trying to download all that stuff again.

>>24772
SSDs for mass storage is a terrible idea unless you're just shitting cash. Instead you should just get a bunch of HDDs and set up a RAID 5 or something.

Czech 2016-02-07 08:37:35 No.24778

>>24776
Well the drive will run for that long, but the data will be corrupt long before.

Time before your average video file is unwatchable ~1.8 years of continuous use depending on manufacturer. Samsung EVO's of the new generation are my SSD recommendation. Tape storage is cheaper than you may think and can be unpowered for decades.

The ones I linked below have really good read/write speeds and I have a few with all anime of the past 10 years on it.

http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Dell-Compressed-Magnetic-Cartridge/dp/B00ERF31HS/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1454834141&sr=1-6&keywords=magnetic+tape

Czech 2016-02-07 08:39:18 No.24779

>>24776
Oh and no joke wrap your SSD's in mylar if you want them last longer, EMR from older microwaves and ham radios can actually fuarrrk with them quite a bit.

Rick Deckard 2016-02-07 08:52:23 No.24782

>>24776
Enterprise class hard drives are the way to go. Traditional SCSI or SAS. They're a bit pricey but you have to remember they were designed for reliability. I've worked on servers that have uptimes measured in years and some still have original drives dated 1999 to 2006 spinning happily along.

Get one now and clone your data onto a newer drive every 10 years or so. I personally prefer the Seagate Cheetah series.

Ender 2016-02-07 08:57:12 No.24784

>>24777
>>24778
>>24779
>>24782

Thanks for the tips, I checked out RAID 5 and LTO tapes. RAID 5 is pretty cool but I might just go with the tape solution for longevity purposes.

If I were to use tapes would I be able to get by with just a basic X in {1, ... , 6} LTO X Ultrium reader off amazon and some LTO X tapes or are there any other technical compatibility points to match up?

Apoc 2016-02-07 09:04:55 No.24785

>>24784
If you do raid, do raid 6 (double parity), preferably with a filesystem like ZFS that is meant to handle redundancy, error checking, fixing corruption, deduplication, etc. If you go the ZFS route then I'd strongly recommend ECC memory. Modern hard drives are large (1-8 TB) and so if one fails there's a good chance another will during the rebuilding process due to how much stress the disks are under and how long the rebuild takes. Also don't use hard drives from the same batch, if one of them has a problem the rest of them probably will too.

Joey 2016-02-07 09:07:37 No.24786

>>24785
Also I'll spout this meme again, but raid isn't a substitution for a backup. Ideally, you want to have three copies of the data on at least two different medium (hard drives, tapes, optical disks, cloud storage, etc.)

The Plague 2016-02-07 10:20:52 No.24790

>>24786
>optical disks
Let me just make an archive split into 1,000 parts and burn them all onto disks every week, then.

Czech 2016-02-07 19:53:01 No.24802

>>24790
>week

what a n00b

you are supposed to back up your data every 35 mins.

Hagbard Celine 2016-02-08 22:44:53 No.24849

>>24802
have 200 disk burners working in tandem to continuously copy chunks of your hard drive, and make a machine that automatically stamps them with their date and offset in the hard drive. Store in another machine that catalogues them and can retrieve them as needed, and if you're really brave make a machine that automatically writes the correct disks to your hard drive when requested.

Lady 3Jane.. 2016-02-09 19:42:33 No.24912

So will we have to start a ring for physical data sharing? Or is the suggestion that we share our hoarded data over i2p/other services? I like the idea of physical sharing but it would be either costly or time consuming if you tried to transfer like a 100gb of anime

Czech 2016-02-09 23:49:56 No.24939

>>24912
Mail an sd card to a gud friend.

You'd have to have a P.O box or something.

Faye Valentine 2016-02-09 23:54:10 No.24941

>>24912
its got to be either i2p or Freenet... and eventualy a freenet over a meshnet - I can dream!

I might start populating both with a few of my gets soon!

Mentat 2016-02-10 00:34:39 No.24946

>>24912
I wouldn't mind doing this, but I don't want to give my address to some random person or send encrypted data to some undercover FBI agent and get arrested for pirating chinese cartoons.

Dozer 2016-02-11 05:08:40 No.24998

>>24939
Bootleg comeback

Void 2016-02-26 21:09:32 No.26243

>>24912
Physical trade is easier

Zero Cool 2016-03-26 16:07:33 No.27456

>>24912
>>24912
Yeah, I'll upload MBs by pigion.

Lady Jessica 2016-03-26 18:39:01 No.27459

I'm a European so wondering if I'm affected by this in some bad way & if so how.

I'd like some actual fucking arguments though.
Some clear quotes from this treaty within context because alarmist campaigns like these tend to be so utterly & completely full of shit that it quickly turns into a 'boy who cried wolf' scenario in my eyes. Like the Dutch referendum on the EU treaty with Ukraine or the anti-TTIP campaign.

Cutter 2016-03-26 20:06:50 No.27460

>>27459
>anti-TTIP campaign
Good call, the greens in my country yelled the hardest but didn't even show up when a current TTIP iteration was presented to the politicians to examine. That's a bit beside the point tough, sageing it.

Although I also would love to hear some key points from a random person.

Hacker 2016-03-27 03:26:34 No.27472

>>24912
The way I see it is another distributed system running a frontend site on i2p / some darker ipfs-style protocol. It would be communally funded through some crytpocoin to launder money and identities. Might even require you to "pay" to participate in the community, either in upload credits or coins.
Some content is going to be lost to storage and transfer nodes disappearing, but at least it's not the soykaf D M C A on the clearnet.

The problem with physical sharing is inherently the identity problem. Hard to establish a root of trust as well once you get to a certain size or the net tightens enough.

Liet-Kynes 2016-03-27 22:27:19 No.27485

>>27472
anyone have the balls to actually make this a thing? imageboards seem to be all talk and no play...

Wintermute 2016-03-28 06:45:07 No.27497

>>27472
Until they start putting bounties on smashing said rings. Which all in all would still be pretty cyb.

Hagbard Celine 2016-03-28 11:28:11 No.27500

>>19669
It is much, much harder to get out of a trade agreement than it is to get into it, as you are restricting trade and making things more expensive, so don't count on it.

Anonymous 2016-03-28 16:58:13 No.27503

New to lainchan, what does soykaf mean? I've seen it posted a lot here but duckduckgo doesn't return anything relevant

Void 2016-03-28 17:13:22 No.27504

>>27503
Used to be a wordfilter for the word "shit", but people do actually use it as a substitute without it as well. It is a more "cyberpunk" way of saying it. "Fuck" becomes fuaarrrkk, "banned" - "derezzed", "faggot" was "glitterboy" and some others that I don't remember at the moment.

Anonymous 2016-03-28 17:18:34 No.27505

>>27504
Cheers

Netrunner 2016-03-29 01:03:58 No.27510

>>27504
Got confused with this one as well, I thought it was an auto filter and promptly felt mortified after f-bombing the hell out of a post.

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