cyb - cyberpunk

Sci-Fi in space tends to be set in the far future, because that's how long it'll take us to achieve travel outside of our own solar system.

Cyberpunk is set in the near future because a cyberpunk setting is plausible within even as quickly as 25 years from our present.

Thus is can be said cyberpunk is thought to be approaching us much faster than space travel.

Another thing is that Space Sci-Fi tends have an optimistic, hopeful view of the future and technology, where science dominates culture and everything is clean and modern.

Cyberpunk is pessimistic and doubtful and full of grunge ascetics.

There have been cross overs, but generally because of the reasons above the two subgenres are seen as being different ends of the spectrum.

didn't neuromancer have some space stuff?
I dunno, I guess it's that space exploration is too often seen as utopian and distant while cyberpunk is in the right here, right now

and if cyberpunk is meant to be in the 30 years from now it says something rather pessimistic about our space programs if space exploration isn't an element

>>18445
It had some, but society was still largely earth based (correct me if I'm wrong).

>>18443

We live in a world where the Russian mafia takes in a ton of cash via botnets, people are using working voice-recognition on their phones to run their lives, the current political bombshell news is that a presidential candidate had a private email server, and drug dealers are proficient in asymmetric encryption opsec.

Cyberpunk is now.

>>18443
What about having a setting where science used to dominate culture, everything used to be clean and modern, space travel got possible, humanity spread far in the cosmos, but, for some reason (figuring that out is part of making the story), it is now declining.

Well Neuromancer, and Blade runner are both pretty seminal cyberpunk works and both imply humans regularly visit space. I also consider planetes to be pretty /cyb/ and it's basically all about space.

Also you guys can argue with me all you want but the Alien movies are cyberpunk as fuarrrk.

This is all not to mention System Shock II.

>>18461

Like Asimov's Foundation series?

To OP, MrBtongue is the soykaf . I wish he had more videos. I think space is considered to much a part of space operas or other kinds of scifi to be considered /cyb/. It's pretty arbitrary though.

>>18445
Gotta love space rastas.

>>18463
alien is in a /cyb/ world for sure and when Roy is talking about all the off world stuff in blade runner it is exactly what I think it would be like but it doesn't have any of the noir element to make it a truly "cyberpunk movie" in my opinion.

>>18441
Space Exploration has always been an afterthought in cyberpunk fiction with good reason.

The spaces in which these stories take place in are fundamentally heterotopian; meaning that the characters we become invested in live in environments that are so multicultural, no singular identity will ever have a chance at forming. You have various people and groups battling it out over the veracity of competing truths; everything is in flux and we're left to our own devices.

Space is merely the absence of everything; instead of staring into a mirror, you're staring into a black hole.
>>18443
Space Sci-Fi offers ample room for injecting grand narrative and modernist sensibilities; cyberpunk is postmodern and rife with deconstruction and nihilism. It shouldn't be very surprising why Space Exploration isn't used.

>>19641
This is kinda how I feel too. It's not that space travel doesn't exist in /cyb/ worlds it's just that the stories themselves don't focus on it as their primary setting.

Though I suppose the Martian city and the resistance there in Total Recall is pretty /cyb/. I watched the original film recently and thought this.

you can argue that EVE is as cyberpunk as you can get and that you have varying degrees of it within each society.

the mega corps of the caldari, the old clans of the amarr, the rebels from minmitar, and the freedom loving goat fuarrrkers that are the gallente