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 No.16692[View All]

Hello fellow lainons,

seeing a similar thread on 4chan's /g/ I decided to start one here.

Just think for a moment. We use a somewhat decentralised network filled to brink with data... daily. Most of it is trash or another content that bears no significance to us. If you know the right way, though, you can siphon through it and hit a cluster of something very interesting (like The Do/k/ument or The Gentooman's Library). Imageboards are a specific place, because unlike another websites they have their unique, yet volatile and prone to change culture.

I'm a sick hoarder myself. Yes, sick, because it is a sickness indeed. I sometimes think of all that data that will be lost sometime and I won't be able to see it again. Everything changes. I'm poor though, so I can't afford a 5TB cluster to archive all music I like, some older games, chinese cartoons, valuable chunks of data (textfiles, whole book libraries, websites that can be taken down one day /remember Geocities?/ etc.), internet culture, old websites (as you can see, all of them start to look the same: http://www.novolume.co.uk/blog/all-websites-look-the-same) and other valuable content.

So... tell me about your hoarding. Do you hoard data? If you do, how and what do you keep?
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 No.19483

>>19087
I don't believe you

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 No.19495

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>>19427
Can I get that Square pusher, and all the synthwave in there also please

Also, you should get into soulseek, I bet some people there would really appreciate it

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 No.19504

>>16706
>>need ebook reader
>epub readers for desktoo

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 No.19508

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I have about 8TB of porn. Most of it consists of JAV, western porn, and hentai (animated and drawn). There are a few games and a bit of bestiality in there. I am not ashamed.

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 No.19510

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I hoard wallpapers of landscapes and various anime

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 No.19512

I am not sure about data hording. A few months ago I widdled all that I really felt obliged to keep (as far as data) to about 8GB. Of course I have more, but I would be willing to give it up on a moment's notice. This includes some programs, a bunch of pdf's, important information. Most of it is my creation, I am not too attached to other people's stuff, most of the time. I save sourcecode for some programs that I like, but only on rare occasions and where there seems a real chance that it could be lost.

The nice thing about having so little is that I can easily set it on a flashdrive. I can make copies easily and carry it on my person. A flashdrive like that is pretty cheap.

As far as physical hording I feel that my inclinations tend to be similar. I keep my work. Papers. Important documents. Things that are rare or difficult to find. I have a lot of maps and school work from years ago, as well as notes that I habitually take about things in general. I find it very difficult to throw away things like this, and so I keep them filed and accessible.

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 No.19513

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>>19508
>8TB of porn

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>>19513
>>19508
interestingly, where 3d people are concerned, high definition is often detrimental to my enjoyment of porn for a variety of reasons.

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 No.19518

OP still here,

>>19087
What the actual fuarrrk.

>>18969
>>19495
I didn't see the whole list, but you'd be my musical neighbour. Also, get on Soulseek. I use it, there are many people like you there with many priceless things on their disks.

>>19508
This might be vintage one day.

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 No.19522

>>19518
>Soulseek
>not gnutella, amule, or any other non-proprietary filesharing service

Fucking why?

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 No.19524

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>>19087
>181TB

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 No.19533

>>19087
whats your oldest file

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 No.19572

>>19518
>This might be vintage one day.
Some of it already is, vanished from trackers and sites altogether.

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 No.19607

Ordering my second 1tb drive soon, so far got around 600GB of videos, 120gb of heavy metal, and 90gb of assorted docs

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 No.19611

>>19607
I hope you're going to use that second drive for backups.

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 No.19613

>>19611
Guess I might need more storage after all


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 No.19646

>>19645
https://www.murdercube.com
Saluto Nex Alea Ave Nex Alea

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 No.19848

8tb drive won't turn on anymore. It was full with content. I'm freaking the fuarrrk out. What do I do holy shit

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 No.19857

>>19848
You fuarrrked up by buying 8 TB disk.
Multi-plate disks are more prone to mechanical failures.
I'm sorry, it's probably gone anon, remember about backups next time.
You can try some things like try to turn it on with another PC or something, but I'm not sure if it'll help anything.

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 No.19864

>>19848
ALWAYS KEEP BACKUPS

Every HDD is like a timebomb waiting to explode, especially the larger ones.

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>>19864

Hey now, watch your tone there. Wouldn't want anyone to get any 'strange ideas'.

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 No.19941

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>>19848
Dunno the ins and outs, but...

If external, remove from case and conect directly in PC or put in another case. Might just be power supply.

If its still dead - or was a naked drive, you have a bigger issue...

Any power or rotation at all from the drive? If so - maybe try:
(not FOSS) but for failing drives this can work well

https://www.grc.com/sr/whatitdoes.htm

Beyond that, 90% of fails are the electronic controlers - get a drive EXACTLY the same as yours - as close as possible serial n.o. (important as they do have board revisions) Then swop the electronics out (the bit on the outside of the drive that connects the power and data cables).

The other 10% of fails is gonna be a slog... you can remove platters and swop out to a new drive but its hard to do and might require a hydralic press depending on the drive design.

But somthing like this will be your next move:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZx-tU1_gOw

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 No.19942

>>19864
This - I have lost a RAID 6, 4 drive setup and a RAID 10, 4 drive setup in the space of 2 months!

Backup saved the day! - now I run 2 raid setups mirroring each other and then also have stand alone backup drives.

is like kicking dead whales down the beach balls - but I was very very close to losing alot of data not to long ago!

Never have to much backup or organization of your data!

Reminder RAID is definatly not a backup!

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 No.19946

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>>19941

The hdd won't spin up at all on power. It's most likely an electrical problem. After I did some digging around I found this place which sells hdd pcbs or accepts broken hdds for pcb replacement.

http://repairmyhdd.com/st8000as0002-1na17z-568-ar13-9737-e-seagate-sata-3-5-pcb.html

That's the one I'm looking for. According to this pcb replacement also involved desoldering a certain rom chip from your original pcb to the new one in order to work, otherwise the data becomes garbage and may be iretrievable. http://www.donordrives.com/pcb-replacement-guide

I called up the place I got it from and they said they could add a note to the warranty provider saying if it can't be fixed don't replace it and just send the broken one back.

I've never had this problem before and I'm unsure how to react really. All my hdds both new (1-2y) and old(5+ years) are perfectly healthy. I'm getting some seriously bad vibes from all of this. I check my hdds health report regularly and this one was perfectly healthy. Makes me paranoid the others will break like this too. Guess its time to rethink my storage methods.

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 No.19949

>>19942
>This - I have lost a RAID 6, 4 drive setup and a RAID 10, 4 drive setup in the space of 2 months!

what kind of POS drives were you using?

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 No.19954

>>19949
Seagate... Greens - I know, i know... Found out the hard way!

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 No.19961

>>19954

I have a couple of wd greens here. Going strong 3 years now

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 No.19976

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>>17301
Guys, I'm a digital hoarder. I only have one laptop with 500GiB space.

>tfw having to delete entire collections of things because I'm low on space.


It's not a nice feeling.

I was about to buy a seagate external hard drive, until i saw this.

I don't know soykaf about hardware. What should i get?

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 No.19977


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 No.19978

>>19976

Anything is good really. Numbers mean nothing in my experience. If it doesn't fail within 6 months it's ok to start storing better things on it, if it lasts for 12 months ur golden and the drive can be considered reliable.

All components have a certain probation time where if they don't burn in that time they should be good for at least a few years. It just so happens hdds have the longest such period. Make sure to check their health report with hdtune or some other hdd utility so theres no impending mechanical failures.

Or get a nas with raid 5. That should cover you unless 2 drives decide to die at the same time.

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 No.19979

>>19978
Anon, he just said he knows soykaf about hardware, what makes you think that he knows what raid is?

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 No.19982

>>19979

A quick search on the internet would tell you everything you need to know about RAID. I figured it'd be common sense.

Hell all you need to do is search amazon or whatever for keyword NAS and see if theres RAID5 in the specs which I think pretty much all of them have it. Making a raid array today is fairly consumer friendly. The corporations need it to be so they can sell it.

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 No.19983

>>19982

Also you can't be a data hoarder and not know at least the basics of how your hardware functions. This is a good thread to get your keywords so you can search what everything means on wikipedia.

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 No.19984

>>19977
>>19978
>>19982
Thanks guys!

>>19979
I have always heard of it, but I haven't really checked out how it works and what it actually does before.

>>19983 Is right, i gotta learn my soykaf or I'll spontaneously combust.

Thanks for the tips guys.

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 No.19994

>>19984
If we're throwing around keywords you need to know obviously learn about Cat5, Cat6 and other versions of the CatX series of ethernet cables. That's my contribution.


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 No.20035

Hi guys, I'm still suprised this thread's still kicking.
Here's a website that you will absolutely love.

http://rml527.blogspot.com/

I came across it by accident after my friend told me I shouldn't buy HDDs that have more than 1 platter. So here you go. The less platters the better.

I've got my mind set on buying WD10EZEX, but I'm so fuarrrking poor. ;_;

Have fun.

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 No.20036

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>>20034

Any hdd will work in a nas. What you're looking for is the actual NAS itself like http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-EX4-Diskless-High-performance-reliability/dp/B00G4JZ2T0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448657359&sr=8-2&keywords=NAS

You buy the hdds and put them in it. You then use an ethernet connection to hook it up to your computer.

To be more clear, the NAS will perform the RAID function. You will need 3 or more hdds for raid 5.

Also if you're just looking for storage high performance drives are an unnecessary expense. Look for something cheap with high storage and a long warranty (2-3 years). In a RAID 5 setup a drive can break and you won't lose any data. It is unlikely that 2 will break within the timespan of replacing your broken hdd, tho I did hear stories of this happening.

Also keep in mind that with any raid other than 0 you will lose total storage space. In RAID 5 for example if you have 3 drives you will only store as much as 2 drives. The formula is 1 - 1/n. This is the downside of your one drive fault tolerance.

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 No.20040

>>20035
It's kinda hard to browse. So.. no platters bigger than 1TB yet it seems?

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 No.20051

>>20036
Thanks! I appreciate the explanation.

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 No.20082

>>20035
Well, the thing is that more platers == more things that can fail.
If you have one platter, then the disk fails only when 100% of the platters fail, because only one.
2 platters mean that if 50% fails (one of them), everything fails, etc.

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 No.20109

>>19572
You should pick out some of the better/rarer/more interesting pieces and upload them somewhere for us then.

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 No.20110

>>19857
Where possible it's probably better to have multiple smaller drives, like 4 2TB or 2 4TB, to minimize data loss if a drive fails. Especially when you don't have backups.

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 No.20150

First time buyer looking at a Synology Nas.

Do i have to worry about compatibility if my main machine runs Linux?

I'm running Arch Linux, and I'm wondering if I'd run into any problems.

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 No.20161

>>20109
Sure thing. What would you anons like to see?

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 No.20330

>>16707
I strongly recommend you look into the Eternal Archive project and I2P

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