cyb - cyberpunk

>>15510
Who did you kill, lainon?

I don't know if the raspberry pi is really a good choice, I have one and if I plug too many devices into it the raspberry may not have enough power to sustain them all. I think that the rpi will be able to deal with a keyboard+mouse+wifi dongle combo though. I think I'd personnaly go with the cheapest eeepc I'd find, it is much more easy to move with a single device that with with a small computer and all its peripherals. If even an eeepc is too expensive for your needs, why wouldn't you keep your smartphone? You could remove the battery when not using it and connect to wifi networks when you need it. It's pretty easy to conceal and move with.

>>15510
I don't know anything about PO boxes but where I live there's a bunch of stores and even specialised businesses you can have things delivered to, they are all monitored with at least security cameras and sometimes you have to talk to someone behind the counter.

As far as picking up packages goes though, it's nice that you don't have to go to the same place every time.

Good luck on your journeys please keep in touch.

>>15512
Cheapest one I've found is $80 before shipping - an RPi with everything I mentioned is about the same price, so you make a good point. I've always been fascinated by it and its uses, though, and it takes up less valuable space when you're trying to pack light and keep room for clothes and food and such.
Smartphones are expensive and mostly impractical as far as actually communicating with people, in addition to privacy concerns. But I suppose when my contract runs out on my current smartphone I could keep it and use it on wifi, you're not wrong.

>>15514
I'll look into businesses like that around here, I wasn't aware that they existed. The cost of a PO box is debatably cheap - around $100/yr - but don't offer a lot of space. I'll really only be ordering computer accessories, ecig gear and perhaps eventually soylent, so I guess I don't really need that much space.

>>15517
A lot of propper P.O. boxes do not allow for reciept of shipments larger than a manilla envelope. Look at places like UPS stores and Maiboxes Etc. They will sign for packages for you, and you generally get a code for the door so you will have 24/7 access to your mailbox.

Good luck lainon. Also you should check out https://squattheplanet.com if you haven't heard of it.

>>15512
You can use something like a USB hub to fix the power issue.

If your area does not have robust public transportation, perhaps invest in a folding bike - though many have uselessly tiny wheels, so you may wish to save up for a more full-size one, though you sacrifice size for usability. Up to you. Also when I was in high school I used to ride pennyboards with my friends, so there's that. They tend to bend if you're heavier than ~160 lbs though.

Former homeless-by-choicer here. No better time to do it.

Live light, live on the go, don't do anything stupid, never let your stuff out of your sight and don't be afraid to shed it if it's too heavy. Listen to your gut.

If you can, hook up with the Rainbows. Part family, part cult, but they can take care of you in a jam. Chances are if you see a hitchhiker wearing cobbled-together clothing, they can point you in the right direction. They're weird and will offer you a lot of drugs. Don't take them, just say "I'm not in the right headspace." They'll understand, but as a new person you will be looked upon with suspicion for awhile. Just be cool, help out around the camps, and be straight with them and they'll be straight with you. Don't be stingy and they'll take care of you.

Avoid the dirty kids, by my experience they're kind of assholes. They'll probably demand to see your asshole. It's part joke, part serious, part initiation, part hazing. Just do it.

If you happen to meet the boy named Sue or GnP, tell them Mannequin says hi. Hope you learn a lot and I wish you the best of experiences!

>>15551
I'd rather sleep in a church or the roof of a building, to be perfectly honest. Like I'm glad they helped you out, and I'll be sure to keep that in the back of my mind, but jesus god that sounds sketchy.

Been thinking of doing something similar myself once I graduate and pay off my debts. At that point, I have nothing left to live for and can (attempt to) be free. This should take about a year; afterwards, I would most likely continue working in IT until I've saved up enough money to get one of pic related and start living out of a van.

The advantages to living in a van are kind of obvious. More mobility and independence, some living space for yourself that can be outfitted to your liking, more soykaf you can lug around, more privacy/security. Disadvantages are being less ascetic (having more shit, possibly more than you need), needing to pay for gas, and more potential for being harassed by pigs. Depending on the van you get, it could also end up being claustrophobic and uncomfortable.

Reason I would be aiming for a Sprinter is because it gets pretty decent mileage for a van (20-26 MPG) and is nice and tall. People use them for campers sometimes. It would be even better if I could somehow carry a motorcycle with me, but I'd probably have to settle for having a bike rack on the back. The advantage to having a van over a car is obviously space, but the subtle advantage to it over an RV (aside from gas) is less potential for cops to harass you due to thinking you're living out of your car and setting up camp on the street (which is illegal).

Aside from getting the actual van, I'd need to be able to outfit it for living. Solar panels on the roof and a nice big boat battery inside, a hammock to hang from the ceiling, a microwave and a hotplate - maybe a small fridge if possible - and as much monitors and computers as I can cram into this thing without having too high a power draw.

As far as making money is concerned so that I can continue to buy more hardware as I see fit: I've heard some people talk about freelance programming for this sort of thing. It sounds to me like this would be a very unsteady source of income at best, and that's assuming you're a top-tier programmer (I'm very far from that). My waifu could also always attain money through less-than-legal means (what's more /cyb/ than selling warez out of a h@xX0r van or brokering stolen data?), but my waifu also knows that this isn't any less unsteady nor does it require you to be any less skilled at what you're doing.

The biggest problems with this would be water and sewage. Using public restrooms would be a must, and water would need to be stored for whenever any wasn't going to be available. Also the amount of weight I'd be carrying would start to decrease my gas efficiency, and that in turn would be a problem with how much income I would potentially be earning.

Obviously this is just a rough sketch and I'd need to figure the logistics into this when I started actually putting money towards this (which will likely not be for two years), but what do you lainons think?

If you get a van, get a diesel van.

>>15560
if you ever accomplish this I had better see your setup in a battlestations thread.
But yeah, honestly this sounds wonderful and comfy to boot. I'd be careful, though; for the line of work you're looking into I think solar panels would be prohibitively expensive. that being said, I don't know of any other solutions... again, I think Raspberry Pi is your friend here. Freelance website design seems to be, from what I've seen and heard, a fairly reliable way of earning money if you've got the skill and business model.
There are various water delivery services around the nation, such as Deer Park, but the problem is just that: they're delivery. giant packs of off-brand water bottles can be bought at places like Walmart on the cheap.

>>15561
this. diesel is such a money saver, though i dont know if there are diesel Sprinters.

>>15560
I've been wanting to do exactly this for like 2 years now.

>>15562

In europe, diesel is the preferred fuel for vans. Here in the UK finding a petrol van would be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

>>15562
You bet I'd be posting that soykaf in a battlestation thread.

Solar panels would up the cost a fair bit, but from some cursory research it doesn't look like it'd be to an unreasonable extent: http://www.sprinter-rv.com/rv-solar-systems/

Using some single-board computers (I'm not a fan of the RPi myself; BeagleBone Black has better specs and more freedom for an extra 20$) would be fine for using the Wired and writing code, and power draw would definitely be an important consideration, but muh games.

As much as I despise bottled water, it wouldn't be difficult at all to have drinking water. The thing I forgot to post is water for washing stuff. You'd need to use a public restroom to give yourself a partial spongebath at least every couple of days (depends on how sweaty and gross you get though), and to brush your teeth. But you're not going to be any better off in this regard than if you were being homeless on foot.

I could see freelance web design being more potentially profitable than writing software freelance. But you've got to be good. Fortunately I have at least two years to get my programming and HTML/CSS skillz to a respectable level. And my waifu can continue during this time to practice lockpicking, netsec/pentesting (for entirely legitimate purposes of course), and pickpocketing for attaining income through other not-necessarily-legal means.

I had also been considering doing the homeless-by-choice thing sans van. I feel like if you can make it work having a van be a slightly better choice, but Sprinters ain't cheap and outfitting one to live in would require a bit of investment. It's the kind of thing you need to spend your time looking on Craigslist for, possibly making a trip to pick up a van someone was selling for remarkably cheap.

>also, getting a 4x4 mod would be fuarrrking sick
>but also expensive

>>15566
no water necessary for washing, really. laundromats still exist, as do dry shampoo and dry toothpaste. Dry shampoo is a god damn life-saver. If you need a complete bath, there's always YMCAs or other gyms, as well as the showers you can often find at beaches, if that's the area you happen to live in.

to be honest, living in a van kind of defeats the purpose of choosing this kind of life, but at the same time it doesn't. you know? It's expensive, yeah, but it allows you the freedom to go anywhere and is still significantly cheaper compared to a mortgage and utilities.

but the idea of getting paid to program inside of a dimly-lit, self-sustaining van is too fuarrrking cool to ignore. something cheap cooking on the hotplate, a fridge full of liquor, the hum of monitors and fans all running... jesus.

Valuable resource is reddit.com/r/vagabond

>>15568
the loneliness.

>>15568
soykaf man I hadn't even thought of dry shampoo/toothpaste, actually. Yeah, that would mitigate the disadvantages of the homeless van life significantly.

But yeah I can see what you mean. I think that you could look at it maybe as one last burst of wage slave life saving up the startup money for a ticket to freedom - as much as we're able to attain in our present society, at least. If you're able to play it thriftily, I'll bet you could get a van together with solar power and all the soykaf you need to live in it for probably under 15K, maybe 10K if you get lucky dumpstering.

It's one of the most /cyb/ lifestyles I can imagine.

>>15570
Aside from the low life aspect of being that alone, I think it's all perspective. Maybe some people are able to maintain a friendship/relationship for a very long time without it getting dull. I feel like if you were okay with having that kind of stability, this kind of life wouldn't be for you.

Each new person on the road, each new girl you hook up with or a friend you make or a helpful stranger you meet, commands entirely that moment that they're in your life for the first time. And when you leave, you'll have the unspoiled memory of meeting them and the sadness of leaving them to bring with you. Better that than being given the time to grow tired of someone.

>>15582
Plus we'll always have our chummers in the Wired.

Wow I thought I was the only one. I've been contemplating the idea of living in a van recently. The one thing I worry about is parking overnight. Most places will tow you or the cops will harass you. You'd have to plan ahead a lot.

I'm looking at a '99 7.3L diesel ford van

upgrades-
-dual high capacity batteries
-heavy duty alternator
-led lighting inside
-mini refrigerator/freezer
-foldable/transformable bed/desk thing
-curtains

Some way to use the bathroom in an emergency thats sanitary?

>>15585
And a VERIZON 4G LTE modem.

>>15585
For a bathroom, a bucket with a bag of sawdust or bleach works. Poop in the back, dump it in a dumpster. Walmart, for all it's evil megacorp ways, has always been a safe haven for van dwelling. There's actually a really good reddit for this at /r/vandwellers.

You'll need a good inverter as well, that's going to run you 200-300usd. not bad in the grand scheme, but you will also want to use as much 12v equipment as possible. I've got a really good book on 12v maintenance written with boats in mind. It's on my retroshare. Hit me up.

>>15589
could you upload it here for us?

youre talking about wanting to be "off grid". having a vehicle, you will always be on the grid to a certain extent with licensing fees and petrol consumption.

as far as having a vehicle goes:
i have a fair bit of experience living out of my vehicles.

whatever you do, youll want something that
you can lay down in when trying to sleep. youll want padding and youll want the ability to heat or cool yourself without running the engine.
its not like sleeping outside, there is no breeze, and unless you have something circulating the air, it tends to get very humid.

i started out with a compact jap wagon, id crack the moon roof to allow for some fresh air. i folded down the seats, blew up the air mattress (with an electric pump), and moved all of my soykaf to the front of the vehicle every night.
the windows were completely untinted and fairly large. that was great for visibility while driving, but not so great for privacy (although they did fog up pretty fast, see: humidity) and made it more difficult to sleep during daylight.

the next iteration of my live-aboard was a compact truck with a very nice camper shell. this was a marked improvement. while it had an almost identical footprint, i could utilize all of the space as it wasnt taken up with rear seats and oddly shaped spaces. my camper shell has tinted windows and bug screens (highly recommended). as it happens, my wagon was awd, but my truck is only 2wd, so its not quite as good on fuarrrked up maintainance roads and fire roads, but decent driving and 2wd can get you most of the places that 4wd owners go anyway (im not saying you can hang with the rock donkeys, but if its on ag or oil land, it can probably be done 2wd). my only qualms with my current setup are the lack of climate control in the sleeping area. if i was going to improve this setup, i would probably install a battery bank (plus solar panels, which would be useful regardless) in the back that could power a small air conditioning unit whose inlet i would mount to a deck-plate opening in the top of the shell.

air-conditioned sleeping and great mpg...

to get any more than this, i would likely have to sacrifice the mpg and move even more toward the live-inside approach.
were i planning to stay in one place whilst living out of my vehicle, this is probably the approach i would take.

in fact, its the one ive been planning on:
id go with a dodge ram van because theyre usually pretty cheap (im guessing because their unibody construction didnt make them very popular with contractors and the like). they can also be found optioned to run on cng which is usually (in the states) half the price of 87 octane - a bit harder to come by as far as fueling stations (vehicles that run on both, dual fuel, are out there and obviously choice). usually these desirable examples are being sold by the city, state, or county agencies and as such are low mileage and reasonably mechanically sound.
i would take this ugly hunk of soykaf and proceed to install the aforementioned battery and climate control equipment, some modest shelving, an inverter, roof-rack mounted solar panels, and a ramp so i can load and unload my trail 70, and a spot to secure my cooler. a gas stove or even just a pan and youre set to live the good life.

do i need to say it?
a gym membership.
if youre not feeling the idea of shitting outdoors, bathing in bodies of water, and getting drinking water from random faucets and fast food places, a gym membership is a great option.

>>15591
It's in the retroshare thread. You'll need to post yours too so I can add you. I'd rather not derail this thread.

>>15602
I think it's pretty relevant. I don't want to setup retroshare right now and lainchan supports pub/pdf. pls?

>>15603
Oh, i thought you meant the retroshare key. Lol. Lemme try. If you see this it worked. Wouldn't let me on a diff thread.

>>15599
Sauce?

I'm one click away from buying this.

I have reluctantly decided to sell my 1989 Ford hippie van. This van has been awesome for trips and cruising around the entire time I have owned it, including most recently a trip to NY state. It originally was a delivery van for the local furniture store, hence the low miles. The second owner converted it to a bit of a hippie van, including a complete tint job (worth $600 easily), sidepipes, and large wheels and tires, which are almost brand new still. However, this was a factory Hobo conversion, which means the ladder, carpet and plush seats, and the bed in the back (which sat covered in the attic of the furniture store until 2013) were all factory. It has rear air, heat and AC work great, recent tune up and oil change, runs great and shifts good. Needs nothing, ready to go. I have a clean title in hand. The only things I have ever noticed wrong were the front seats (which swivel 360 degrees) bottom cushions are ripped a bit, hence the towels, and some wood trim is broken. Come check it out today!!! $1750 takes it obo! It has 160,000 original miles, 302 v8, auto, all power Windows and seats... still has factory cassette/am-fm.

>>15605
https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/

>>15607
Looks like a steal. Some tips. My van had low miles on it. Turns out, tachometer was broken. Make sure the mile dial turns. Also, that 160,000 could be 260,000, if the tach is 5 black 1 white. Check the dipstick for rust/signs of water. Means the head's cracked cause they overheated it. Make sure your radiator fan spins. Make sure there is liquid in the radiator. Also look for metal shavings in the oil. These are all deal breakers. Look for dripping water, means the water pump is about to go out. Make him knock 300 off the price. Air filter? 50 bucks. Other things like that. Sight unseen though, looks pretty good. (Note: I have a 90's model gmc sierra. Asking was 800. I got it for 425.)

so many replies since yesterday! all of the information has been extremely useful, especially that on vans and RVs.everything d8a's contributed, too.
I need a big bag to keep everything in. there are no military surplus stores around here, so those huge army backpacks are out of the question (as are MREs, unfortunately, though I've heard that they can be expensive even relative to the amount of calories they offer). the bag of holding from ThinkGeek seems nice in theory, but fuarrrk do I loathe the idea of giving that place my money. there's got to be somewhere that offers something similar for cheaper and without the ridiculous branding.

>>15650
If you've got the skrill the link below are amazing and super durable packs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extra-Large-Swiss-MIlitary-Rucksack-Backpack-rubberized-canvas-w-leather-/281792186238?hash=item419c1f877e

>>15510
Why are you doing this to yourself? Unless of course you plan on camping with your tent and moving around different places. That's not homelessness. That's a nomadic lifestyle.

>>15608
It's got a 302 in it and that year had fuel injection. I'd swap the head out for the GT40 head. I think those came in some 5.0 mustangs that had the 302.

>>15560
>>15585
I used to find the idea of living in a van or minivan quite intriguing when I was ~10. Of course, this was before I had any need for Internet, so I didn't take your tech considerations into account.

...

My plan, seeing as I'm not self-sufficient, is to live in an in-law apartment alongside my parents' house. I could pay a certain amount in rent, have my own space & degree of privacy, and still be able to depend on my momma for the things I cannot do. My question is, why don't you guys just stay/move back in with your parents? If you promptly paid rent every month, would they really object?

>>15713
Yes, they would.

>>15510
Hi Kalyx.

>>15713
>My question is, why don't you guys just stay/move back in with your parents?
Because I hate living with my parents... Because I hate paying rent... Because I want freedom (implying you can't crack wifi in whatever area you're setting up camp if you can't find any unencrypted networks)... Because I want excitement and adventure in my life...

I mean, these are just some general reasons. Do I need to keep going?

>>15731
>Because I want excitement and adventure in my life
To each his own, I guess. I prefer routine & predictability. Everything else you've given seems reasonable. Best of luck, wherever your life takes you.

>>15769
Fair enough, same to you lainon. Routine is nice but I get myself stuck in ruts and become too content with it.

>>15731
Do you parents actually expect you to pay the rent when you live with them?

>>15795
They would probably be willing to let me live there rent free to work and put all my money towards paying off my student loans, but otherwise yes they would make me pay rent or kick me out.

@ all the solar van lainons, I recently had this thought: what would stop people from just stealing your solar panels? I know I'm a heavy god damn sleeper and wouldn't feel someone climbing on top of my van at three in the morning.

>>15817
1. Make DIY lift sensor, place it under panel and fasten panel with belts
2. Thief unfasten belts and lift it.
3. Siren and red torch above your bed goes off
4. Make him run away
5. ?????????
6. Panel secured

The big issue I keep having trouble answering is how to shower even when innawoods. A gym membership is great if you're in town, but when your out in the sticks then good luck getting to a gym regularly.

The one option I've found that seems viable would be to use a pvc pipe resovoir shower pressurized via a tire valve stem + tire pump; however, the winter that doesn't seem to be the most pleasent option unless you're a polar bear.

>>15869
Saw some leg pump shower the other day. You place one hose in bucket (probably with warmed water?) and pump water with this flat rubber... uhm... pump. I thought that most RVs have shower cabins. Otherwise you would have to pitch a bathing tent and warm it before showering.

What is a van I can live in for $4,000?

>>16227
peugeot 806 is cheap and practical, you need a bit of wood (build something under the mattress so it doesn't get too wet).

>>15559
It was sketchy, super sketchy, but they never did anything to actually cause me harm, so no harm done.

Just keep cameras and soykaf away from them. When you do that many psychedelics and fry your noggin out like that, they can get twitchy. They thought I was a fed for awhile.

>>16228
i live in america
that isn't an option , nobody is selling that

>>15560
Stay away from any standard electric appliance if you want to do some van dwelling. The only one I would consider is a DC Fridge as they are made to be very efficient but your looking at 1-2k for that alone.

Microwave can be fine but a propane stove made by Coleman is perfect for this. Electricity is too expensive and heavy for a hot plate. It isn't worth it.

>>16227
Dodge conversion van. they are everywhere.

>>15510
You guys keep on talking about goddamn mini-vans...

Just become a cyb trucker. Make like 80k a year while driving and hacking when you get the time.

>>16442
Nevermind, hours are fuarrrk ing terrible.

If you want to be homeless go for it. Get a Greyhound bus ticket for $150 or train hop to wherever you want.

Break into a hotel room with keys and other means like that. Or just live in an old abandoned factory and buy a pre-paid 4GLTE card like Im doing right now. (Ting)

If you need food just get a job seriously go work at a fuarrrk ing gas station or a pet-store.

>>15521
I'm not OP, but thank you very much! Although I'm not their target audience at the moment, I've always had an interest in that sort of thing, and I'm sure what I learn there will come in handy regardless.

>>15560

I have been thinking of making the same for a long time, Lainon.

I made the math, and if you want to live off the grid with a 100W solar panel, forget about having a desktop computer or other powerfull electronics, think about a Laptop with a good GPU with CUDA support for cracking wireless networks with strong encryption, throught that might depend on your country, here in Europe, wifi networks are pretty updated, at least in big cities with high speed connections. You might also just consider a data plan with a telecom company, but it may be expensive and have a too small download limit for primary connection use.

The biggest challenge I see about this is finding a reliable source of income while living on the road, and by extention, pay for gas, which can be really high at some places, especially if you have a van.
As far as I know from others people's experiences, this might be possible to do with freelancing, but you need an extense network of contacts from which you can create a steady stream of workload, which might proove difficult if you are just out of college or extremelly bad at talking with people. Another way, and this may be the best I know, is by passive income, either from webpages, blogs, youtube videos, owning home and renting it... Or maybe go full ilegal and become a nomadic hacker who deals with drugs from time to time for costing his search for significance in a empty world...

Security might also be an issue in some places, but if you can't be able to solve the problem with a baseball bat, then you should just get the fuarrrk out of there in your nice car/van.

Once you have all of this, then you only need the balls to do it, and the will to make a complete change of your lifestyle and the way you see the world, which can be fuarrrk ing disruptive for middle class people, who usually assume all the comodities of 1º world lifestyle like cleaning the place where you poop with perfectly clean and potable water, or having more than one shower per week.

I will make a tutorial if I get to make this one day.

Good luck Lainon.

>>16489
>if you can't be able to solve the problem with a baseball bat, then you should just get the fuarrrk out of there in your nice car/van

Good rule of thumb, I would follow that for encounters but would still arm myself with some sort of gun. You should try to have the upper hand in any encounter you might face, just in case you need it.

Income really would be a problem for everyone here. Outside of illegally earned money, there aren't too many options.
One thing you could do is buy and sell stuff off craigslist. So when you arrive in a city, try to score something for relatively cheap, or easily fixable, and sell it in the next city over. Selling would be a problem because you'd have to stay in town for maybe a week, and the margin of profit you would have to constantly calculate.

What the fuarrrk anons. Living homeless by choice is a thing here?
Not judging but extremely surprised. I could live without commodities but fuarrrk if I do it happy and willingly.
As for being off the grid, I keep a bunch of fake ID's and keep a bunch of different personas, I do mostly freelance jobs and receive payments via bank accounts linked to disposable phone numbers. I tought I was pretty hardcore with my tinfoil hat, but being homeless is a no-no, at least in my shitty country.

>>16443
not to mention the years of the trucker are numbered; that shit's getting automated m8.

>>16492
I traveling, guns bad. Laws are different from state to state. Good way to end up in jail. Also, baseball bats don't leave nearly as much evidence.

>>15510
>Then a Raspberry Pi with wi-fi dongle, TFT screen, and keyboard/mouse could act serviceably as a much cheaper laptop for programming, online purchases, etc. with the ability to function as more (a wardriver, for example, as has been pointed out in another thread)
What would the advantage of that be over a cheap tablet? I've priced out cheap Raspberry Pi portable builds but it always ends up costing more than a cheap x86 tablet with a keyboard case that will have more processing power than the Raspberry Pi and has more Linux flavors available. Just the Raspberry Pi + a 9" non touch screen alone comes to about $85 (can bring it down to about $50 if you want a 5" screen, but I don't see that replacing a laptop), then you have to add the battery, case, power adapter, USB wifi adapter, keyboard, and mouse.

>>16548
>Bank accounts linked to disposable phones.

What? Sounds interesting

I've also fantasized about this. Just imagine driving from megacity to megacity, reading lainchan at three in the morning on stolen wifi while the rain falls on your cars celling with a cig in your mouth, scavenging parts from broken electronics, selling broken TVs you "found" on a junkyard. Jesus.

What about making your van run on Ethanol? You could make your fuel on the go right in your van out of anything really. There's gotta be some way to make it work efficiently.

Or what about collecting rain and cleaning it? Wasn't there a way to do this with stones and earth? I recall reading about it on /k/ at least.

>>17026
Installing solar panels on your van would also be a good option. However they seem like they'd be stolen easily unless there's some way to conceal them to where they still have access to sunlight

I have no advice on van dwelling, which is the direction this thread is going in right now, but I can chime in.

I live a somewhat traveling lifestyle. I'm currently in NY state working through winter and saving cash. I'm from the south and have never experienced a northern winter so, aside from saving cash, that's why I'm up here. When spring comes around, it's back to hitching around. I ride trains and hitchhike. Hitchhiking is much easier than riding trains, but it's so much faster to catch a good freight.

Anyway, my plan is to hitch around all summer and see various people across the country and maybe get my passport to make it to south america for next winter. I've met several people who have made the voyage and most people say great things about it.

Anyway, a smartphone, an 8" laptop, and various cables. The rest is all clothes food and survival gear. Heading to work now, so I'll expand more on my situation when I get home if anyone wants.

I've gone from the florida keys to southern california to mid-Oregon and now Upstate NY all riding trains and hitching.

Oh yeah and a longboard.

pic related is TN

>>17062
What are the logistics of this like? I've always wanted to do something like this, to live on the road.

For example, how do you eat well on a budget? Do you carry a camp stove? Where do you sleep in as you travel? How do you actually hop a freight train? How do you stay out of trouble from the law?

How does one successfully execute this lifestyle?

>>17212
There are always going to be issues. Doing this will not always be comfortable, but really, that's the point. I personally sleep outside and only carry enough food for two days or so. I usually do not cook as it's harder to find opportunities for that than you might think. Every pound you carry is crucial, so if you're not going to be using it daily, ditch it. Hence, fuarrrk a camp stove. Eating on a budget will be different for everyone, personally, I carry something like bread and lunchmeat(which is fine for at least a couple days without refrigeration) fruit(although pretty expensive) Peanut butter and on and on. I'm used to living poor and don't require much. Also, in a case like this Soylent would be ideal if it were less bulky.

Mostly, unless you get caught hopping a freight, you won't be doing much illegal. Maybe the occasional trespassing or something, but you shouldn't have to worry about the law much. Throughout all of my travels I have never once had my bag searched by police and most encounters are pleasant. Often if cops see you hitch hiking they will pass you right by. Think of it like this, You're leaving their town.

As for hopping freights, it's mostly common sense. They have to stop somewhere. That's where you get on. If you're going east, wait on the west side of the yard. Trains often side for a moment before entering a yard. There's your chance. Do a couple dry runs. Scope out the different types of cars to look for places to sit and remember: ****The steel does not care about you. One fuarrrk up and you are dead.****

There really isn't a successful way to execute this lifestyle. There will be disasters and you will miserable from time to time. A month can feel like several. If you feel like you need something like it, it'll be worth it for you. It is seriously not for everyone. I personally think it's exhilarating and it stirs up a sort of primal satisfaction in the moments where you are comfortable and everything has worked out in your favor. I know I'll have some stories.

>>16962
>cheap x86 tablet with a keyboard case that will have more processing power than the Raspberry Pi and has more Linux flavors available.
It may have more linux distros available, but good luck finding drivers for all your hardware so you can use your tablet with said linux distros.

>>17533

As someone who's fought with trying to get Linux working on cheap x86 tablets, I'd rather go with the Pi.

There's some insane non-standard 32bit EFI stuff that Microsoft did to get Windows booting on those cheap Baytrail tablets with 2GB RAM. (For gory details, google "T100 magic stick" and read the more technical threads that pop up.)

I'm hoping that Linux is easier to boot on Cherrytrail tablets with 4GB RAM or more, where the hardware has to stick to standard 64bit EFI booting.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWbu81bU83wRKbS8bQQqIg

Watch this guys vids for info on the van life. Really informative.

i'm moving to my choice of college next year and i was told not to expect housing because first and second years always get first picks.

That being said i don't have enough money to get a house because i am paying community college out of pocket while living with my parents.

Does lain have any advice?

>>17591
>That being said i don't have enough money to get a house because i am paying community college out of pocket while living with my parents.
>while living with my parents.
Are you seriously asking this? If they have no problem with you living with them then keep living with them while you can and put away all the money you're saving. Having a good amount of money in savings instead of living from paycheck to paycheck is the intelligent thing to do. Also if your parents won't let you stay with them, having a roommate is great for saving money, when I moved out due to my parents moving out of state (2nd year of college) I started living with my brother (who luckily was going to the same college) and we were spiting the $680/month that a 2 bedroom apartment costed instead of individually paying the ~$500+ that a one bedroom apartment costed. All of that combined with working a full time job while in college and living well within my means helped me graduate with thousands in the bank instead of being thousands in debt.

I've been wageslaving for a month now and will continue wageslaving well into next year to achieve a content life in a van.
This thread's got some great information on it, here's my contribution.

>>17568
RasPi requires nonfree software to even boot
get a BeagleBone Black instead

also, calling GNU `Linux' is like calling VLC `libav'

>>18615
Why would you want to live in a van dude? Like, it's cool that you've got ambition but why

>>18617
Just for the slightest sense of freedom and the ability to go wherever I please whenever I please.
I'm not a materialistic guy and have always wanted to be one of those homeless by choice kids who just go out and adventure. As long as I have a place to sleep and a computer, I'm happy.
/blogpost

>>18615
Trying to do that home free thing and currently live in an rv. This van is perfect, but goddamn are those batteries expensive. Do you happen to have source?

>>15510
Why not just use post restant instead of a PO box?

>>15589
Nice subreddit. I've been thinking of living in a van too, starting when I graduate.

How do you homeless people deal with winter? Like over here it gets -30 C and less. If you don't get to some place warm to sleep you are almost guaranteed to die or have some severe frost bites.

I have heard that paper recycling bins are pretty good places to sleep in. Any experience with this?

>>18709
Depends only on the country you winter at. In my country there is a common practice of building a heat plant that provides hot water and heating to a town district. Homeless folks usually sleep under those pipes that provide hot water to city blocks/condos, also laying cardboard and old rags (such placed is called teplak). Best teplaks are where heat pipes run in some maintenance building, thus they provide cover from cold wind. You can also burn wood if there is a forrest nearby, though you would need to contruct fireplace carefully - make it long by laying big logs and make heat-reflecting wall that would reflect heat at your sleeping place.
So, essentially you need:
• Heat source (fire, boiler room, heat pipe)
• Protection from wind (buildings, underground)
• Sleeping bed to protect from cold soil/concrete (crates, rags, plastic bottles, cardboard)
People, especially homeless, still freeze to death, so take this seriously.

>>15510
Hey man, if you get access to tech and it isn't difficult please write a blog talking about some of your experiences and share it here.

I would read it, and I'm sure that lots of other people would as well. Could be a good way to also earn some money on the side from advertising/other stuff. It wouldn't be much, but it all adds up and that could be worth it if you're living on the street. Plus it'd be a fun way to kill time.

If you're picking up a Raspberry it might be worthwhile to pick up a software defined radio and an RFID reader for the raspberry. Could be valuable for stealing.

>>15510
Why a rpii and not a cheap regular laptop?

>>15713
Because I can't have loud sex living home without it being awkward.
Also remember some people have some fetishes that you can't hide while whipping your gf, etc.

>>18725
sounds interesting, but how would that aid in stealing stuff?

>>18615
Who needs that many pants?

>>18784 Cars and houses that use remote controls to unlock garage and security?