cyb - cyberpunk

>>18978
>>18995
college loans.

mortgage. i got it well under control but i hate the feeling of being in debt.

Go into debt. Buy more products without being paid more. Can't strike for higher wages cause your in debt. Slowly whipped back to serfdom over generations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1onXAaI

This video explains everything about what modern debt is

>>18863
Obviously the most free and democratic country this world has ever known.
The country where the government cares more about Israel and ancient dinosaur water than their own citizens.
The country with more aircraft carriers that the rest of the world combined.
That country.

The media has made it look dangerous. Alot of people think that appearing like they live on the edge makes them better in some way.

>>19031
The media has made it look dangerous because it isn't controlled by the government

>>19077
Well the amount of child porn sites and hitmen sites doesn't help.

Deep Web = "Pages/Data not indexed/indexable by search engines or a URL"

Dark Web = "Encryted, generally untraceable/observable pages/data which can only be accessed through specific means."

>>19081
The child porn sites are a lot more prevalant on the clearnet. I'd honestly rather have pedophiles protected by Tor than have them view it on the clearnet and run the risk of the site being found by somebody unaware or ending up arrested/raped in prison.
Unfortunately, reforming or reconsidering laws to better fit public interest isn't as high-priority as prosecuting people who might as well be living buzzwords (pedophiles, terrorists, vandals, thieves, ideological extremists).

>>18908
Thanks, I also found the options in the PirateBox app itself (I am not so familiar with this phone) and you can change a lot of stuff there.

I've included some downloads for i2p and the TOR browser bundle as well as some documentation pulled from the site for offline viewing to help people along. Seems like a good thing to try spread.

>>18727
Cool interface OP. How much traffic have you seen on the piratebox?


>>18730
This gives me an idea. It would be simple to write a python script to monitor a directory for file changes, then upload new files to virustotal for analysis. Gonna put this together tonight for fun. For a piratebox, it would be a matter of taking output from the python script and writing it to the page for each upload so users can click a link to the appropriate report.

Not applicable in OP's case since he's using a cell phone, but good for linux-based pirateboxes.

I've tried to set up PirateBox on my Nexus 7 2012 running Paranoid Android 4.4.4 but upon trying to connect to it my phone and laptop just continually try to connect yet are unsuccessful.

>>18945
Does regular WiFi tethering work with that device?

>>18994
Woops, on the 2012 device it would appear not. Damn. The screen is messed up (registers random presses on areas of the screen sometimes) so it would've been good to use it for something like this.

so , how did you guys practice social engineering ?
i kind of read the art of human hacking yet i can't get myself to test it on people .

>>18200
Here's something helpful for you

http://www.net-security.org/article.php?id=1342

>>18151
He doesn't need a psychologist. What made you think lying is wrong anon? It's just popular opinion and not even one that most people actually follow. They'll tell little lies that they think they can get away with, without even thinking about it really, the only real difference is you've realized you're able to get away with a lot more than people realize.

And when you describe it being boring otherwise - is it really wrong to lie for the sake of entertaining yourself? A lot of humor relies on lying, making people believe whatever bull soykaf just for a laugh.

I wouldn't lie to people who trust you. I mean, without 'revealing' the lie, like when you make it clear you're joking with your expression or just coming out shortly afterwards. Otherwise, I don't see the problem.

It is stressful because there is a stigma against 'liars', people tend to think in terms of 'bad apples'. If you do one bad thing, you're probably simply bad in general. If you lie, you'll probably cheat steal and kill, too. I think it's rooted in the idea of sinners.

But for most cases, there's little actual consequence to be found out you told a lie. Who takes that seriously? With an acquaintance, they'll be annoyed with you, but it's mostly confused why you even bothered. Like, why did you say you were born in Russia when you weren't? It's just an odd thing to do.

>>18383
In this culture of moral relativism (e.g. "don't label people, you bigot!") it is difficult to construe individual actions as good or bad.

I'm aligning more with some kind of moral pragmatism these days: what's good is what works. Of course what "works" depends on your goal, so not documenting your code is still bad, if your goal was to have someone else understand it easily.

>>19042
>what's good is what works
that doesn't work because it doesn't analyse the end goal's moral weight. also it must mean it if something does not work it cannot be moral e.g successfully raping your sister to death is more moral than messing up a sudoku puzzle.

>>18879
>There was probably loads of metadata analysis and active surveillance happening on these people.

Telegram is cloud-based, which means the authorities can easily request all that metadata to be streamed right into their hands just by saying the magic word: "terrorist". In other words, it's a honeypot, just like Skype. Anyone who knows anything at all about security knows that you can't trust servers that aren't under your physical control, even if the data is encrypted.

>>18879
Or maybe they just planted a dude on the Telegram group?

>>18790
>Give it time and it won't be around anymore.

Perhaps, but could the same not be said for previous social media outlets such as MySpace, and (God forbid) Geocities? Though Geocities is a different sort of case, the principle remains the same - if the Facebook giant is ever snuffed out, there will always be the next best thing for the masses to latch on to. I think the issue of always being a step aside of social media will always be a thing considering that Facebook is very unlikely to be the last megaservice. From a standpoint of ethics, it may be more beneficial to seek an alternative, as opposed to playing the waiting game.

I personally think that if Facebook ever gets the boot, LinkedIn would swiftly pick up the remains. But then again, who knows. Considering the sheer size and market share of Facebook, >>18801 isn't too conceivably far off with a 20-year estimate.

>>18885
>you can't trust servers that aren't under your physical control

long story short

OP, if your friends can't bother to invite you by some other means than through facebook, it may be time to find real friends.

>>19016
Yea but now he won't stop talking about inverse earth

>>18926
I never "posed" as anything.

>as soon as democracy is mentioned you revert to "mob rule", as if organized labor wouldn't have the structures to mitigate this.
The fact that democracy has to be "mitigated" is evidence that democracy is bad. In a democracy, everything important, whether it be a necessary maintainance of infrastructure, defense against foreign threats, or the rights of citizens, has to be placed outside of the influence of democracy. The alternative of "mitigated"(ie fake) democracy is mob rule. Ben Franklin knew that.

I never said anything about scarcity.

>in messy reality these systems don't actually exist. they're abstractions any way you cut it
There's no difference between saying "in reality it's all the same", and "in reality, they don't exist". If two things don't exist, they are the same.

So thanks for agreeing with me.

>>19017
What the fuarrrk is inverse earth? Is it what I think it is?

>>19007
don't argue if you can't make a clear point or actually even make a point at all. So far all you've done is told him to read other peoples works or look up X which I can only assume means you yourself don't know them enough to explain.

We would see a resurrection of ideology; people who get ass enragement from the idea of lies/slander being peddled are really just afraid of the media losing control of information. When there is a diversity of opinion, it's easier to identify which "truths" are false.

> Not OP

>>18987
In my case, I need to get better to really help... though it's kind of shitty that aside from software projects, nothing can be done sufficiently anonymously.

Never shut up.
Just never stop talking to people about it. Tell everyone. Talk to everyone.

>>18976
Tech ignorance doesn't help. Some people just don't have the need to retain enough tech skills or understanding to affect their daily lives.

Talk to the people who can affect other people. Encourage group solutions (SSL/HTTPS, 2FA) that benefit everyone without directly engaging them.

Also yes to everything else you mentioned.

How about not setting up meetings, but having signs. Ones hidden in pop culture. The wondrous part of global police architecture is the fact that its base it more bureaucracy then anything, and bureaucracy is really good at half assing it. A lazy government is a good target as all bureaucracy become. So we just hide in plain sight. Make codes with series of images, or even just the right image in the right spot. Like a smiley face sticker in the right hand corner of a laptop, except exactly 1 cm away from the corner. Something that shows but will slip past bureaucrats.

>>18982
well the ones that need swaying are the groups running these surveillance programs.

a not entirely true analogy, when communists began spying on other communists it all fell apart. when even the head honchos knew the fear it couldn't stay for long that way.

hopefully you get what im suggesting with this kind of bad analogy here.

>>15510
Why a rpii and not a cheap regular laptop?

>>15713
Because I can't have loud sex living home without it being awkward.
Also remember some people have some fetishes that you can't hide while whipping your gf, etc.

>>18725
sounds interesting, but how would that aid in stealing stuff?

>>18615
Who needs that many pants?

>>18784 Cars and houses that use remote controls to unlock garage and security?

I think the real question is, how different would it's reception have been if it was released in 1991 instead of 1995

>>18666
Why?

>>18665

It was because Zero Cool's refusal to cooperate meant more legal problems for him.

Can we stream hackers?

>>18663

script: http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=402

Found this:
MARGO
Jesus. You know, you're sick, Eugene. You...

PLAGUE
Sh, sh sh sh sh.

Hrm. looks like the script was OCRed and they never finished hand-corrections.

>>17851
i dont, my biggest evidence for people being incapable of suicide is that I myself am. yes i know how that sounds.

so in your case i would then make the assumption that you still arent thinking things through or arent understanding what death will entail. the other third possibility with suicide cases which i didnt mention was that being genetically defect could render a person capable of suicide. i mean that not in a bad way either, i really do just mean that the person was somehow not wired with this strong sense of perseverance.

again i know how much this sounds like im just making exceptions for every case that doesnt go with what i think. but i will say again that i believe this because I know myself, who has thought about suicide and contemplated it so much, is completely unable to commit suicide no matter how hard i try. id argue that the act of me arguing with you is just my brain rationalizing this irrational need to survive by any means necessary.

its funny because this isnt even as stretched or the farthest i take these views. i actually believe people cant even contemplate that they will truly die by natural causes. they always want to leave an impact on the world, or have kids, or "do something with their life" which i see as a way to extend their life past death which is impossible without actually extending your life past death, or so i believe.

i do know these are just my beliefs though. I also dont read much and i dont really borrow from anywhere, most of this is just from me walking my dogs and thinking. my point being that maybe if i read a bit more philosophy and what not i might be able to argue my points better and come up with better explanations.

Who's the artist of the middle picture??

>>17896
Literally not a single sentence in this post makes any sense. Grats bro.

>>17926
Shintaro Kago

OP here.

I'm glad this conversation is still here and the majority of it are thinking seriously about it.

When this revelation hit me, I honestly did weep. I was doing some work outside and just thinking when it happened. I realized how truly small and powerless that I was. It's been a couple months since then, and I still do feel small and powerless. But I also feel more brave, like I can take control of my situation, if not necessarily rein in the world toward a more empathetic will. I've realized that you can be small, but you still can set an example for others to follow. There's been this enormous cycling of my morals and ethics and... people have noticed.

I've stopped dressing to impress, and only wear what I find comfortable or personally interesting. If my hands are idle I will busy them in service of another human being, not for profit or recognition, but for the simple joy of seeing them smile. This includes cleaning my friend's homes, playing party dad and keeping stupid drunk college kids safe, treating even insects respectfully despite their lack of ethical capacity. Standing up and calling out bull soykaf with my voice, AND my actions. Lying is a thing of the past. Cheating is despicable.

It is in our best interest to be honorable, kind, and firm. We fuarrrk up sometimes, but that's human nature. We move on.

Be a light, Lainchan, even among the lowlifes. Be your best.