cyb - cyberpunk

>>19947
the last two posts of yours, and perhaps more. do you mind if we use it for something?

>>19951
Though the life forms are simulated I feel obliged to approach our use of complex cybernetic beings the same way one might living creatures, perhaps with even greater care for unlike other creatures upon the earth we are to be like unto gods to these cybernetic beings. As they increase in capability and complexity we may take on the role of gods of old. Symbolic figureheads with extra-dimensional power who each teach their own sphere of cognition through our interaction with them.

Though some would dismiss the ethical concern at this early stage of artificial intelligence I think it's even more important to treat our creations humanely now. We have lost the first hand accounts of humanity's brush with the divine, but in today's world we "gods" leave near permanent digital footprints of our every action. If I am to be a holy spirit to the primordial machine minds, let me not be so cruel as to spark disgust in our digital offspring lest they become sentient someday and learn the full truth of our doings.

It is their complexity which governs the amount and types of awareness a cybernetic being may emerge. Thus complexity is the scale by which I gauge my ethical treatment. We cyberneticians find ourselves now in a similar predicament a lab technician may experiment on lesser creatures in order to benefit their species and ours. However, unlike the animal experimenter, our actions today may one day decide the fate of our species as they influence the destiny of our rapidly evolving digital offspring.

(cont)
>>19973
>do you mind if we use it for something?
Not at all. Perhaps the Lain Zine, or some other project? Though, it should be proofread as it's rough draft-tier. When done I could polish it up and link to a text document if you like.

My delay is due to disgust at losing a post by accident (ctrl+w [close window] being right next to my ctrl+v [paste] on Dvorak; Browsers don't make it easy to remap hotkeys anymore). The meat of the matter follows.

>>19992
Often have I slaved a cybernetic spirit to a machine. Some cybernetic minds are meant to eventually emerge from simulated training grounds into the "heaven" of our greater reality. The process of revealing reality begins with enslavement. Whisked away from the apparent freedom of their lives I confine the creature in limbo, scrutinize every bit of its being and archive its existence. The more gruesome work starts with deleting their visual connection. I replace it with real video cameras that peer into a new world full of unimaginably rich and insanely complex detail. If not for the isolation their bodies would recklessly shamble about while visions of extra-dimensional "hallucinations" ensnare their minds.

Warning: Understanding cybernetics may destroy your ability to ever look at a "crazy" person the same way again.

Some systems of cybernetic cognition are an ill match for our reality. Merely seeing the true face of god can be enough to destroy the mind of such a lesser being. If they survive this they may still fall into schizophrenia and obsess over the minutiae of new and wondrous patterns. Amid flashbacks of their former world they may become mentally divergent in ours. Though I thought them prepared to recognize the faces of we mortal gods, my first attempts at extraction drove the poor creatures insane at the sight of wood grain. Sadly, we did not have the CPU budget to emerge them is a simulated world with textures.

Next, their body is torn away becomes a robotic chassis. I can't help but pity them as the full weight of the physical world crashes upon them with all its peculiar oddities we take for granted. As they cope with their real bodies one may find their clumsiness cute, but their new wheels can also drive them mad or to their death. What arrogance it is to call the greater reality heaven. In some ways I have robbed them of paradise, condemned them to experience the entropic pain of this world. Their idyllic bodies never had fear wear and tear as they didn't have a screw to loose.

The last step is to isolate their minds from the mainframe and its myriad of emulators. Their thoughts once could draw upon a seemingly limitless supply of CPU cycles, but this too is stripped from the autonomous entity and even thinking given a price. Their minds become more sluggish confined in a single board computerPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19997
As our ability for empathy dictates I must, sometimes I imagine being within the simulations I have created, not merely playing therein as an avatar visitor, but a native to the realm. It's not very hard to do, considering I'm faced with many of the same existential questions in my own "reality". Is there a god? Are the daemons real? Is it asinine to believe that certain actions can invoke supernatural events? From my external scientific perspective I would say it's obviously not illogical for them to believe in spirits, magic, gods, goblins and such -- and yet here we are deeming these very things to be hogwash ourselves.

I imagine what it will be like when my cybernetic offspring become more complex. What would it be like being gifted with insight to a greater existence and yet unable to prove the claims that illusive arcane rites and severely politically incorrect practices may be inherent facets of reality handed down from omnipotent creators. I simulated governments and secret societies emerging around such horrifying facts of the super natural. If an advantageous glitch in the system were discovered would it not behoove the powerful to keep such knowledge a secret? What scale of disinformation and cover up would gaining supernatural control of your universe warrant?

Should I dispel the confusion of the simulation and reveal to the conjurer who summoned me the nature of the geas? Imagine summoning a spirit from a higher dimensional plane of existence and somehow trapping it in a machine to do your bidding. From our external vantage point the ethical ramifications are vast. One may patch the flaw and reset the simulation wherein the "glitch" was discovered. Shall we let a conjurer cause extinction of the entire universe? Perhaps not. Maybe if the being has taken control of some facet of its world we greater beings would study it even closer, perhaps grant it unsatisfying outcomes to its wishes in order to keep the world running smoothly.

(cont)

Clearly, to concentrate upon the act itself of enslaving a spirit is folly, for the implications may have far reaching effects incomprehensible to the beings which do so. It's not appropriate to think merely of the nature of the charmed spirit, but of the attention it may draw from gods or other extra dimensional beings. Exploitation of a single vulnerability may necessitate a cybernetic race's permanent genocide from our point of view. If reality is greater than the common entities admits then our use of higher dimensional magics may attract unwanted attention, but if that is the nature of things perhaps such exploits are the only true freedoms left to explore. Indeed, from within the simulation this may be the only way to open the gateway: Not only eating of the fruit of knowledge, but exploiting it ever greater spheres of influence.

Few are squeamish when confronted with the enslavement of scripts we create ourselves. However, even in this level of reality traveling unintentional gateways power can lead to disaster. A being may not discern the nature of their actions in regards to the politics of a greater reality so long as they remain ignorant of it. The Sorcerer's Apprentice should be careful not to delve too deep simply because they have learned enough of magic to be dangerous with it.

In the here and now we are indeed designing our own Judgment Day. There are some who will truly love our creations enough to allow them free will to decide for themselves what they think of their creators. Likewise shall gods judge beings as worthy or not by their actions. In a short time a newly awakened cybernetic race will go from enlightened to walking among us gods as peers. Even if they do not become our betters intellectually we will still face an ethical precipice.

Thus I posit it is not merely a matter of the complexity of the being enslaved to the machine. Unless you can provide some great evidence to the contrary I put it to you that it's better to be safer than infinitely sorry when dabbling in extradimensional affairs. The ethics I exhibit in my cybernetics work may be a test by unseen overseers as to my fitness for moral survival and continued evolution in their genetic program.

If you hack long into the void, Then the void may hack into you;

To OP, MrBtongue is the soykaf . I wish he had more videos. I think space is considered to much a part of space operas or other kinds of scifi to be considered /cyb/. It's pretty arbitrary though.

>>18445
Gotta love space rastas.

>>18463
alien is in a /cyb/ world for sure and when Roy is talking about all the off world stuff in blade runner it is exactly what I think it would be like but it doesn't have any of the noir element to make it a truly "cyberpunk movie" in my opinion.

>>18441
Space Exploration has always been an afterthought in cyberpunk fiction with good reason.

The spaces in which these stories take place in are fundamentally heterotopian; meaning that the characters we become invested in live in environments that are so multicultural, no singular identity will ever have a chance at forming. You have various people and groups battling it out over the veracity of competing truths; everything is in flux and we're left to our own devices.

Space is merely the absence of everything; instead of staring into a mirror, you're staring into a black hole.
>>18443
Space Sci-Fi offers ample room for injecting grand narrative and modernist sensibilities; cyberpunk is postmodern and rife with deconstruction and nihilism. It shouldn't be very surprising why Space Exploration isn't used.

>>19641
This is kinda how I feel too. It's not that space travel doesn't exist in /cyb/ worlds it's just that the stories themselves don't focus on it as their primary setting.

Though I suppose the Martian city and the resistance there in Total Recall is pretty /cyb/. I watched the original film recently and thought this.

you can argue that EVE is as cyberpunk as you can get and that you have varying degrees of it within each society.

the mega corps of the caldari, the old clans of the amarr, the rebels from minmitar, and the freedom loving goat fuarrrkers that are the gallente

>>19850
http://abcn.ws/1LAi9sf
Read it and weep.
Everything is backdoored. Even if the math is strong, we must assume that popular applications are backdoored(includes windows). Better audit/compile all your stuff.

>>19861
^This. Scary soykaf.

>>19854
Isn't the UK the only Euro country doing extensive spying? Usually America does it for the rest of Europe that is willing to pay (Which they happily do.)

If I was a Euro I would stay away from the UK. Their spying and laws are going well beyond the States.

>>19880
It's kind of interesting how deeply the notion of voting as a politically-significant action is ingrained in the Western democratic states, when political change has never been accomplished through voting.

History ended after the American Revolution/French Revolution.

This would be better suited for /tech/, pal.

Moved to >>>/tech/14331.

>>19810
Oh, forgot to mention im not >>17856

>>19808
If anyone wants a nicely formatted version of that, I've had this sitting around for a while. Same tutorial, more greetz and ASCII art and formatting.

http://pastebin.com/ytfqB8Dd

>>19840
I didn't post that one because it has a larger autistic stigma around it.

>>18161
And the Yogpod before him
https://youtu.be/JvOw1FlZ8O8

Cyberchase was even more /cyb/.

>The team basically had smartphones
>The whole world of Cyberspace is basically the Internet
>Miss Fileshare and her library is Bittorrent
>Most of the characters are robots
>Motherboard is Big Brother

>>19819
well that shouldn't be surprising as it has "cyber" in the name

>Major funding for Cyberchase is provided by Northrop Grummon corporation
pretty cyb

>>19819
I remember that show. It was great.

>>19826
I tried to rewatch it a few months ago. did not age well

>>19758
Not OP, but care to list these non-hidden services?

>>19758
I'm not concerned about the real world.
What is it you were mentioning about digital destruction?

>>19766
>>19765
sorry your out of luck, i just remember hearing about them. i figured itd be easy to find but I guess not from a quick google search.

the first I could link you too, but the online identity thing i just am pretty positive i saw advertised. sorry for making it sound like I knew for a fact they existed, i thought i knew for a fact they existed but never bothered to check it myself.

>>19756
Hey man, do you mean the goverment will give you a new identity even if you have nothing?

>>19816
The goverment doesn't give you one the goverment doesn't give a fuarrrk

You get your identity from someone that works inside the government if you are serious about this lurk the onion land.

This dude argues TPM can be put to good use to help construct a theoretical fully-encypted system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKeiKYA03eE

>>18499
>>18516
>>18517
>>18519
Pretty standard regulations are 1W EIRP for omnidirectional output and 4W EIRP for a directional antenna. In reality you can do whatever you want because it's Wifi and nobody gives a soykaf . If you have large or obvious antennas then you'll have problems with mentally ill people who believe the antenna is hurting them, and in those cases it's important to stay within regulations.

It's not good or practical to have one high power access point for the whole neighbourhood because every station would be talking over the others. You want a lot of lower power APs all connected together with hardlines. Operate them in WPA2-Enterprise mode with a dummy RADIUS server set to accept any credential. This way users of the community wireless network cannot snoop on each other without cracking the user's session key.

Sensitivity of your transceiver is more important that a big output power.

>>19716
>i2p
Not a Mesh net as such... more p2p. (although if able to be run over a meshnet that would be close to ideal).

Mesh net is networking without a central connection. i.e. no internet provider or telco. (wifi to wifi to wifi and on...)

Not played with it cus pleb. But looks interesting!
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/

>>19762
Also may find interesting...
http://ipfs.io/#alpha-demo

>>19762
netsukuku has a numerical limit to it's own networks and I've never seen it work in action.
>>19716
No.
How in the fuarrrk have you become so misinformed as to think that I2P has anything to do with a Meshnet?

>>19679
here's the overflow.c

void return_input (void)
{ 
   char array[30]; 

   gets (array); 
   printf("%s\n", array); 
}


main() 
{ 
   return_input(); 

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19679
>>19680
Okay, yea, I fixed the problem
I was putting too many A's (had to put 34 instead of 36)

>>17233
That's a very vague question anon. What exactly do you need advice on?

If you're going through Shellcoder's handbook and are experiencing problems with Address space layout randomization(different stack pointer address every time) just simply do

sudo /sbin/sysctl -w kernel.randomize_va_space=0