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 No.17941[Reply]

Spy agencies in Britain will be given the explicit right to hack into smartphones and computers as part of a new law being introduced by the Conservative government.

https://www.rt.com/uk/319277-gchq-hack-smartphone-law/

Encrypt All The Things!
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 No.20204

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>Messing with corp sign boards. Inserting pro style anti-adverts.
10% cyber
100% punk

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34958282

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 No.20277

>>18031
Isn't that the nature of government? Countries are a relationship between the government and the governed, in which the government has the power to keep order. The idea that democracy works is flawed. Democracy only works when everyone is interested, and you can't get enough people interested unless your vote is statistically significant. The scale of our world is much larger than it should be.

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 No.20294

>>17941
Just never use social network websites. At least on phone. Better to not use them at all. And you are safe, you glitterboy.

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 No.20303

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>>20204

Pretty good work.



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 No.19137[Reply]

Can you guys list and detail some fictional /cyb/erpunk products and business? So for example the Fallout universe has things like Nuka Cola, Suger Bombs, Mr Gutsy brand robots, and RobCo Industries. Well, I'm looking for products like that from cyberpunk universes.

The reason I want them is because I want to make GTA Radio-esque ads for them on Lainchan radio to add a bit of flavour and humour.

The more detail you can give on these, or the more info you can link to at least, the better job I can do making an faux-ad for it.

So for example I could make an advert for Cyberia, the night/dance club featured in Serial Experiments Lain.

Sock it to me.
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>>19968
wow that is amazing

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 No.20216

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Freeside, a residential space station in Neuromancer.

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 No.20260

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>>19633
>>20216
i like the pre-2k-style T-A logo better

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E.Y.E. has some pretty good ads, cant find any good pictures of the better ones



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 No.19788[Reply]

Would any of you like to organize a sneakernet? I'm too lowlife to have internet at my home, but I'd like some soykaf to watch and read every once in a while.

To start, I can share my humble eBook library of 300+ books (I'd like more, btw, don't care what subject it is), 480p recordings of Serial Experiments Lain, and Akame Ga Kill, BBC's "Century of the Self" documentary series, a database of all books in Library Genesis, among other things (I'll update the tread later, once I take a closer look at what I already have).

If you're interested, send an email to neet_in_training@teknik.io.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is it worth the risk associated with giving your address to strangers, even if it's a specific stranger such as myself?
Any other lainons that don't have internet at their place of residence?
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 No.19884

Looks like OP is out for the holiday. I sent my address, so if I don't get murdered, I'll let y'all know how it goes.

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 No.20210

OP is back.
>>19884
Sent me his address, and offered me some stuff. I'm probably going to buy a USB drive and send it to him tomorrow. Hopefully the postman does his job right. Maybe I'll pay a little more to get it tracked.

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 No.20228

>>19815
>maps of planets? I have some pretty neat topographic maps if you are interested
Not who you were replying to but those sound neat. Can you put them up somewhere for others?

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 No.20262

>>19866
Are we talking about interconnected pirateboxes?

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 No.20264

>>19867
>>19872
>>19879

Another West Coast fag here. I can't afford to send hard drives or flash drives, but I wouldn't mind compressing and encrypting a bunch of soykaf and splitting it between a couple DVDs.



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 No.19823[Reply]

>Brandon works at Google megacorp
>lives in his truck
>millennial generation is now becoming encouraged to live it rough

More and more /cyb/, every day.

http://fusion.net/story/236635/millennials-housing-crisis-tiny-homes/
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 No.20246

>>20053
Flatness isn't everything. The managers and tech leads at Google are trained to lead without authority and there's very little done without the consensus of the team, at least in my area (developer infrastructure).

>>20029
I'm currently an intern there, but I interviewed for a full time position when I graduated.

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 No.20247

>>20033
>I'm sure he could find a room to rent in SF, maybe not his perfect appt but still.

Dude, why would you pay 2k+ a month for an apartment you don't even like? Anything less than that and you'd have to share a room or sleep in the living room.

Acting poor though, very spot on. It's only really the rich that can engage in this sort of theatrics and enjoy it because they know the money is going to keep coming in from Google and they might as well live a little.

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 No.20248

>>20052
Google Malcolm Harris, asshole. Stop brewing soykaf.

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 No.20249

>>20211
I actually don't think they used anarchism at all as a base, I think that by iterating on how to best run their organization they converged on something like anarchist communism. It's easy to see why this works so well in Google's situation: lots of smart, motivated people with all their material needs met.

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 No.20252

>>20247
I meant literally a room, renting one out of a house or sharing a large apartment with someone.



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 No.18795[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Did you guys get past this?
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 No.20012

>>20009
>Do not try to hack the Gibson with your mind, for that is impossible. Only realize the truth: Ken Thompson 1984

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 No.20015

>>19841

What the hell? The ride never ends, it just keeps going.

>>19894
Pretty sure that's a different Tim.

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 No.20050

>>20012
The quote doesn't appear anywhere I can find, and doesn't seem attributed to Ken Thompson.

> hack the Gibson

Obvious "Hackers" movie reference. The phrasing seems similar to "The Matrix" spoon bending scene meme.

> Ken Thompson

He's the original implementer of Unix.

> 1984

Not sure what this means, aside from Orwell's book.

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 No.20072

>>20050
"Reflections on Trusting Trust" is from 1984.

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 No.20208

>>19578

he wrote custom algorithm to decode actual js that is in variable 's'. after 's' is decoded it is then executed by eval().

deobfuscated and saved, will make for a good element of my homepage =*D.

I think it's also not worth the time, it allows only to bump into few errors and halt.



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 No.20206[Reply]

My uni has phone charging stations with micro USB + lightning adapters and a monitor displaying ads for stuff around campus + other sponsors. What kind of trouble might you be able brew with a Raspberry Pi hooked up to one of those and some sort of root privileges?

They don't get a lot of use by students who are right to not really trust the stations and consider them a waste of money, so collecting phone info with them doesn't sound like it'll yield much at all. The monitors themselves seem more promising since they could display whatever given the chance.
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 No.20118[Reply]

Is there any way we can objectively determine the reality of the world beyond our immediate first hand knowledge?

Since media is not only soykaf these days, but 100% corruptible, and has monetary motivation to do so and all.
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 No.20124

Your question implies that technology can magically fix fundamental human flaw. Of all things, it will be exploited by the resourceful and will just make it worse.
There are acquaintances who provide me with their first hand experiences around some recent events. Those are usually opposite of what government says. In other cases, rely on amount of data collected and use your own logic and discernment.

Another question for OP: does it really matter for your life and safety who downed that plane? Do you really need to know details of war half across the globe?

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 No.20145

>>20123
>Sciences generally assume that there is an objective reality, and that the scientific method is likely helping us get better guesses at what it is.

Alternatively, science is actively generating the 'objective reality' (as the collection of facts about 'reality' obtained through the methods of science). By doing so, it is raising the cost of access to the epistemic conditions by which one 'verifies reality'. In this sense, the ontology of science could be understood as a Plutocratic metaphysics.

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 No.20149

I don't think we can "objectively" determine reality but we can find common agreements between groups of people about reality.

I think the truth lies in the whole and not the essence. but we can only ever have a part of that whole. kind of unfortunate, huh?

So I guess my strategy is to pay attention to all the media you can, or at least the stuff you wouldn't normally be exposed to (stuff you might think is crazy but a lot of others listen to, for instance) with a good theoretical understanding.

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 No.20151

No I don't think so. There is just reliable information and unreliable information. Key word there is the reliable part though, doesn't necessarily mean its objectively true just that it serves you and can be relied upon.



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 No.13652[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Since the old one seems to have disappeared from the catalog, and I needed to post a new key that's compatible with the new version anyway.
>> DOWNLOAD <<
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/
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 No.20080

I added a friend of mine with his node's certificate and he did the same for me. We're still unable to receive messages or see us connected. Is there any additional steps to get things working?

I'll add you all later. I don't know yet if it's doable to run this as a server and access it remotely trough the web interface. My main interest with this is sharing (possibly rare) music and files.

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 No.20083

>>20080
see
>>19972
If upnp isn't working or you don't have your ports forwarded you're going to have a hard time. There should be no additional steps other than adding each others' keys.

It is possible to run it on a server. It has specific binaries for it. I tried to with the last version, but I had some troubles and couldn't get it to work. Can't remember what the problem was though. I should look at adding my server as a node of my current identity. Thanks for the reminder.

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 No.19907[Reply]

How do you think religion could work in a cyberpunk society? As a potentially positive force I mean.

I think most traditional religions either favored raw, untapped nature or they favored a slower existence befitting the largely agrarian lives people might have led when these religions dominated their respective societies before the modern era. I wouldn't say that a more traditional religious expression is incompatible with modern technology, but there is this sense I get that the current technological state of things has either weakened religion or has created a kind of religious atmosphere that reflects that technology in some ways and this religious atmosphere seems to have a very radical or very bland or overly globalized quality to it which stands in contrast to some of the older expressions, which I would say had a more genuine spiritual character to them, even at their most rigid or aggressive.

At least this is my observation. The question I think is less whether or not religion would fade away in a cyberpunk world, because I think it would always find a way to survive in some way. Instead, I think the problem is how technology impacts religion and vice versa.
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>>20001
Holy Church of the Big Blue E

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 No.20016

>>20008
Oh, I get it. So it's some sort of gender equality thing.

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 No.20025

>>19927
>and diversity will be dead

This is something that I fear, anon.

Recently I virtually moved to the other side of the world. If I want to go back in any reasonable way I will have an entire 24 or more hours of travelling to get back, just for perspective. And you know what I find where I am now? In many ways it is the same stuff here as it was at home. Sure there are some differences, people speak a different language and shake hands a lot more. But overall, when I just walk around, I feel like I could have moved like four hours away and gotten a similar sort of foreign ness.

>>19974
You remind me of a fellow whose hands I can see moving in front of me.

I do not really beleive in religion. But I do not really beleive in something else clearly either. Mainly my view is that we can understand some things, and that number of things is growing. We cannot at present understand everything and we probably never will. That is fine. I do not really mind if there is something that I do not understand, and wehn I do not understand it I sort of patch over it with trust and beleif.

The first question that I get when it someone learns that I do not beleive in God is often "so you beleive in Evolution?" or "so you beleive in the Big Bang?". I usually answer these questions wil "no". Partly this is to cause interest so we can talk, but this generally reflects my view. In order to understand anything I must beleive in something, and the main thing I beleive in is science. That through investigation, orbservation, and experimentation, we can understand truths from the universe. Therefore, I do not beleive in evolution; as far as I care evolution could be proven to be nonesense and flawed tomorow. What I beleive in is that we can get evidence and build understanding.

>>20016
Or ancient Roman/Greek Religions. But probably the gender thing was not an accident.

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 No.20044

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If we want to look at modern religion, two forms of it stand out as particularly "technologic":

1. Modern Religious Liberalism--a form of religion that tries to be embracing of a wide variety of different lifestyles and by and large encourages the adoption of modern technology as part of a progressive agenda. Modern liberals who consider themselves Christians in America, for instance, being progressives, have no qualm with modern technology which is one of the greatest signs of progress and they support the full enjoyment of this technology for any purpose they wish provided it doesn't "hurt anybody". Liberal leaning Christians in America for instance, are far more willing to accept something like cloning than many of their conservative counterparts.

2. Technocratic/Utilitarian Fundamentalism-- We see this in the Middle East quite a lot, but also in America. These sorts of fundamentalists are mainly concerned with technology's impact on social ethics, but they don't really have any problem with the technology itself and are often the ones championing technological progress until it oversteps a certain moral boundary. Contrary to what some people might like to think, the conservatives in America who oppose stem cell research are not against progress or technology at all. The fact that many of them buy up so much of our modern gadgets, the fact that there are so many hundreds of cell phone apps catering to that demographic of American society, and just how many modern businesses are owned or partially owned by them disproves this. Many Islamic fundamentalists too are not poor Bedouins and farmers who rant about modern technology's effects like Ted Kaczynski, but people with engineering degrees from modern universities. The use of the internet to spread radical jihadism or even to wage cyber-war is well known to many terrorism experts. Iran is also a very fast developing country as far as science/technology goes and this has happened under the direction of the fundamentalist government, it also has some of the most technological surveillance of its citizens of any country.

If one group wishes to pursue the liberating aspects of modern technology to the highest degree possible, the other wants to reap the reward of power and wealth the technology offers their countries while limiting many liberties it offers. However, both of these groups could probably be said to have been opposed to the traditional social order of each world rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>20002
>>20008

I know at one point the Pentagram was supposed to have been adopted from paganism as a Christian symbol symbolizing the five points of pain of Christ on the cross.



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 No.19936[Reply]

Batman is not a savior and Gotham is a capitalist fascism that isnt to be saved.

Batman is a tacit communal agreement amongst Gotham that the need exists for a means by which systemic inequality can continue without action toward determining or preventing its causes. Batman captures and detains criminals and the police arrest them, thereby lending validity to his cause. Batmans chief enemies are the mentally ill (the joker and the riddler), immigrants (bane), and minorities (catwoman, harley quinn, and disfigured villains such as clayface and killer croc.) The fact that batman consistently denies the ability for rehabilitation in many of these villains conveniently in turn absolves the city as well as his plutocratic double identity from ever doing anything meaningful to address inequality in gotham.

Gotham itself is no more than a collective of plutocrats governed by oligarchy. depictions of the city are a bastardization of the roaring twenties cast in italian fascism, and smattered with modernist superstructures from which steady streams of the well to do ingress and egress. Bruce Wayne, unable to reconcile his dark secret and in keeping with fashionable appearances, donates by his own compare a pittance to orphanages while never addressing the causes of and treatment for seemingly so many of them. his dark torment, the loss of his parents, is irrelevant when super-positioned amongst his endless riches and cloistered elite lifestyle. Batman has no axe to grind but the one layed in his hands by the society he "protects."

Batman is capitalist fairytale, spun from whole cloth and fed to an audience that must be constantly reminded that wealthy people are not only relevant, but helpful and meaningful in a society where they routinely reveal themselves as callous and greedy accessories to the misery of a nation.
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 No.19953

someone's been reading to much zizek

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 No.19958

>>19952
maybe this thread went political zero posts in but it's not like you have to assert your defense of capitalism every time someone says bad stuff about it

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>>19936
I think you're nitpicking batmans lore far to much to suit your arguement, and in doing so are leaving out some huge parts of his stories.
>> Batmans chief enemies are the mentally ill (the joker and the riddler), immigrants (bane), and minorities (catwoman, harley quinn, and disfigured villains such as clayface and killer croc.)

Batman DOES contentiously try to rehabilitate them, he doesn't want them killed, at least not most of them. There are many instances where past villains come back as not necessarily allies, but as more or less cured in particular Harley Quinn, Catwoman, and Bane.

>>collective of plutocrats governed by oligarchy


Who are major villians in the batman universe, in fact my personal favorite group of villains is the court of Owls, who are essentially the shadow oligarchs of Gotham, and who batman goes all out to destroy.


>>donates by his own compare a pittance to orphanages while never addressing the causes of and treatment for seemingly so many of them


While this is valid, it should also be noted that he has raised groups of orphans to fight and overthrow fascist and totalitarian regimes the world over such as in the Dark Knight Strikes again and the Batman Inc. series.

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>>19962
I've always envisioned a Batman who's built up Gotham to have supervillains and an incompetent police force to justify his role as Batman, sure he's doing good but only so far as he's also created the evil in the first place.

basically the dude is using Gotham as a giant playground but doesn't realize it because he thinks he's legitimately fighting crime and is motivated to do it by his dead parents

I dunno I haven't consumed any batman media so

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>>19962
>>Batman DOES contentiously try to rehabilitate them
Batman is the literal embodiment of revolving door mass-incarceration. he doesnt want them dead because they serve a purpose in re-enforcing the role of the state and its systemic inequality. villains are cured once they accept the role of the state through their savior, batman.

>>major villians in the batman universe

are manufactured. you learn who holds real power by asking about the people no one talks about. the governor? the city council? secretaries? all absent in the majority of storylines.

>>batman beyond and TAS

beyond is the storyline of a man cast into the role of the batman who cannot as bruce once did reconcile completely the schism between gotham elite and the pauper. And while TAS was an excellent series with accomplished writing and storyline, its still just the batman feeding invalids into the system. I cant speak for master race, but Im genuinely curious to see it.

>>19953
probably ;) but batman is hardly the least guilty. Iron man is much worse, but only in that he does nothing but fix problems he himself caused through his own largesse.



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