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 No.78

Any of you lainons make music? Or play any instruments?

I'm just starting on the former and I'm reading through Michael Hewitt's Music Theory for Computer Musicians. Dabbling with Ableton and Audacity while I'm figuring it out but I think I need to buy some hardware sooner or later. I guess it'll feel quite different when you have something physical to work with?

As this does cover all sorts of art I assume music is ok. I have no relevant pics so here's an album cover.
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 No.86

I'm kind of trying to play the guitar. I also have a glockenspiel and a recorder, but don't use these so much.

On the computer, I play around with Overtone (a Clojure library), but it's going slow, too.

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 No.95

>>78
I’m moving later this summer, and so my family will have room for our piano again. I am hoping to learn the basics of piano.
>TFW only person in family who never learned to play an instrument
;_;

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 No.96

>>95
iktf

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 No.97


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 No.99

starting the bass this summer, previously I've played the piano and stand up bass

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 No.109

>>78
yes is really different with hardware, please finish that book it will be very useful, also you will know what tools to get when you're ready.

I've got myself a Maschine, a 25-key midi keyboard and a turntable, I guess I cover a lot of ground with that. I'll upload as soon as I get something decent done.

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 No.111

>>78
I play piano, guitar and ocarina. I tried getting into making electronic music, but I don't know, it's not really my thing.

Since this is a music thread, have some music. Recorded this for 8/mu/'s new album.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55257111/remotelylinked/arf/w43%20-%20Prelude%20in%20C%20(Johnny%20B.%20cover).ogg

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 No.155

I play a lot of stuff. It's the only thing that keeps me interested in life, to be honest. I play lots of things, but usually piano, organ or synths.

Have some fresh music.
https://soundcloud.com/the-gravid-myrmidon/ithariel

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 No.159

>>111
You played this with a lot of feeling. Did you improvise the ending or rewrite it? Or did you just play it differently than I remember the piece sounding? Thanks for sharing.

>>155
Did you record this live with looping? Moogs sound so nice, I'm jealous you have one.

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 No.160

I kinda play recorder. I used to learn to play certain songs but now I just fuarrrk around and improvise. I have this cheap plastic soprano baroque recorder from when I was in fifth grade, but it sounds pretty good, especially when played in the woods for some reason.

I kinda play piano in a similar fashion. I had this 61 key keyboard for a few years, but only recently realized how good it feels to have the right support and the right chair and keep the right posture and all that when I tried a piano a friend had.

I have also tried starting to play guitar and harmonica, but why I knowledge in these is almost non-existent.

I can't really read music. I can decode it, if you get what I mean, note by note, but I'm far away from sight-reading. I must also say I haven't practiced in a long time.


But here's the thing:
For some time, I have been obsessed with music that doesn't use western tuning, "microtonal" or "xenharmonic" music; music that uses notes between the notes. That's why I lost some interest in these "standard" instruments.

I'm in a funny situation. It's like if all the colors I knew became boring after seeing some colors that I didn't even imagine. There's a bit of a snobish element to it, but there is also an element that I want to be able to be as free as possible to experiment. When thinking about learning an instrument, I tell myself that it can't play microtonal stuff, but at the same time, there is no "microtonal stuff", there is no such thing as a microtonal tradition or a microtonal repertoire (ok, here I might be wrong). But still, knowing that I'll be stuck in 12tet is disappointing, and most instruments seem to be stuck. Except fretless instruments, but it seems to me that they are incredibly difficult to play, could you confirm or refute, stand up bass lainon? >>99

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 No.161

>>160 continued

I am dreaming about an daw that wasn't built around midi. Midi is -- harmful? problematic? -- whatever... It forces you into 12 tone equal temperament and instead of being liberating, electronic music forces you into one single tuning. In such a daw, a note wouldn't be an int representing a note but rather a float representing a frequency or a pitch, and there would be the ability to bend the pitch and volume of each note independently while it's playing, as well as transmit other information for each note that can be synth specific. The piano-roll part would be a plug-in just like the synths, so that one could use something that looks like a piano, something like a tracker, or maybe just create Theremin type sounds by drawing bezier curves.

One day I would probably program something like that. Until now I only did this small thing in C with Portaudio that turned my computer keyboard into a two-dimensional musical keyboard. Unfortunately it was monophonic. Anyway, I did some fun recordings with it. I wish to program something bigger in some more elaborate language. Maybe Rust? From what I read, audio programming has its own set of specific problems and dos and don'ts, since almost always, the audio playing part is in a running separate context than the rest and can cause concurrency-type bugs, something that Rust claims to prevent.

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 No.162

>>160
I feel like you'd be interested in this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Partch
His music is /not/ any equal temperament scale but it is "microtonal" in the sense that it uses notes outside of our 12-tet scale. He essentially had to recreate an entire group of instruments; most of these are pitched percussion instruments like marimbas, but he has an organ and other instruments too. It is very odd going in between his music and "normal" music. I think if he were alive today he would work mostly with computers, though I'm not sure how he'd do it.

I personally believe the framework humans hear harmony through is fundamentally based on the harmonic series. Equal temperament provides a compromise, allowing for music to be transposed to be based in any of the pitches with which it is composer, at the expensive of never having any "true" intervals-- the fifth is barely off from 1/2 an octave, etc.

As someone who relies upon 12 tone musical instruments extensively for listening, experimenting, and creating, I'm willing to put up with this compromise. Realizing the limitations of the equal temperament scale is frustrating for me, but not totally discouraging. I believe there is plenty to be reaped from the 12-tet scale, which provides a great approximation of low partials of the harmonic series for having such a low number of notes (I believe the 24-tet scale does not come closer to a true fifth or third, nor any scale between 1-tet to 24-tet). I've done research with programming into an interesting aspect of -tet scales, the modes of limited transposition.

Anyway,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5ok_Ju_MY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXDYgYQYXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8NIpPhXpfQ provides a tour of his instruments and how he created/distributed recordings of his work

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 No.163

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>>162
It's nice finding someone who knows about this.

I know a bit about Partch. He used only just intonation if I recall. Thanks for the links. It's true that his music is really different from everything else.

I have heard that 31-tet would be a great step up from 12-tet. I must say I haven't experimented with it at all. It seems like a lot of notes but I guess it could be manageable with a keyboard like in pic related (the archiphone).

Also, what do you think of 19-tet? It sounds similar to 12-tet. It's like a meantone that was closed in a circle and has really good minor and major triads because of a almost just minor third.

I also find 17-tet interesting since you get them neutral intervals while being able to approximate some of the 12-tet scales and chords. It also fits really comfortably on a computer keyboard.

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 No.164

>>160
you ordinarily play with other people so using non standard tet systems, there are however solos for the instruments that come closer to the mid range sounds like the violin, thats where theres some experimentation

at higher levels there will be trilling, where you quiver your finger on the strings to intentionally distort sounds and produce a unique effect. other than that we use 12 tets

dont quote me on any of this its been years

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 No.213

>>161

While I haven't really played around with it in quite a while, it sounds like Pure Data would be right up your alley:

https://puredata.info/

It's not quite as comfortable as using a DAW, but it does give you nearly complete control over the sounds you make.

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 No.214

Been playing guitar for a little over 10 years now, along the way I've picked up bass, banjo, mandolin, Appalachian dulcimer, various percussive instruments, and I'm very slowly teaching myself piano and cello right now.

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 No.1070

Can anyone recommend some resource for learning piano? Something like Suzuki's method for violin, but for piano.
I want to learn but I don't know any good exercises or melodies for beginners.

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 No.1097

>>159
Hey anon, >>155 here, I've gotta admit something to you: **that's not a real moog. I wish I had one too**

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 No.1098

>>1097
I can't even spoiler, fuarrrk me

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 No.1099

I've been playing bass for about 9 years now. Started playing double bass(stand up) in orchestra then got a bass guitar when I was around 14 years old. Right now my main instrument is my esp ltd b206sm 6 string bass. I'm not super knowledgeable in theory but I know all my scales and modes, and mostly just figure stuff out for myself by messing around. I tune my bass CGCFBbEb, which is slightly higher than standard for a 6 string, but i like to think of it as almost a bass/cello hybrid. I play in a metal band but when its just me I play lots of solo bass stuff. if you're curious what I mean then look up Scott Fernandez on YouTube, he's probably my biggest musical idol.

>>163
I'm also really interested in microtonal stuff. I'm second generation and heard lots of Balkan music growing up, specifically in an 8 tone per octave scale. But I really dig maqam and hijaz stuff. I de-fretted the first bass I ever got a little over a year ago specifically to be able to play microtonal stuff. There's a few guys on YouTube with microtonal guitars that are worth checking out, mainly I would reccomend looking up tolgahan çoğulu.

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 No.1100

>>1099
oops typo, meant to say 7 tone per octave**

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 No.1487

In primary school I became relatively adept on the flute and clarinet for a beginner, spent about a year and a half on each but didn't pursue it.

I've been playing guitar for nearly 10 years now; started on rock and got stuck in a death metal rut until I was saved by the blues.

A few months ago I found a fretless acoustic bass on the side of the road and after purchasing new strings and machine heads it worked a treat! It's really helped me hone in on the rhythmic quality of my playing and establish groove



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